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Merged All the presidents (wo)men......

Completely off topic, but what did you think of the movie "Invictus" r0ast p0tat0es?
 
As I said in the other thread...

Your cultural bias is showing. Why should anyone care how many wives he chooses to inflict upon himself?

We have real problems to deal with. Let's focus on those.

Besides, it's not like great leaders of the free world are so much better. I'd still rather have Zuma than Berlusconi.
 
Lol, "not behaviour one expects from a modern nation".

Sorry to inform you, but your racism is showing.
 
theprestige said:
The Atheist, what would you say is the defining characteristic of modernity that causes you to expect that it would not include polygamy?
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It isn't a defining characteristic, but it does show a certain mindset and arrogance.

I don't think they're great things for a crucial country in the future development of Africa, which is already somewhat on the messy side.

r0ast_p0tat0es said:
Well, that's my point. There are real issues that need dealing with, and focussing needlessly on how many wives the President has detracts from that. Why is having more than one wife objectively any worse than only having one? Why do people get married at all? I sure as hell don't know. Surely it's all just an artifact of one's culture? How does it affect you or me in the slightest?
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I agree it's a minor issue, but Zuma has a considerable number of issues and this is just the latest. I have been critical of him since pre-election.

Do you think the negative publicity on this type of issue will ultimately help Zuma gain credence and acceptance outside of the tribal areas?

r0ast_p0tat0es said:
But I'm also pissed at the fatalist attitude so many people take towards my country in particular, when clearly the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket. Our money is based on oil, and the oil is running out. I'm glad I live in a country which doesn't feel compelled to go to war over that just yet, and which has been making oil from coal for the last forty-odd years.
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You haven't answered the crime question.

The oil from coal is a legacy of Apartheid.

You're right that RSA has strong natural resources.

But Zimbo was the bread basket of Africa only a few years ago. Things change without progress and I don't see Zuma being the progressive man needed. As I say, I hope I'm wrong.

r0ast_p0tat0es said:
By the way, a hell of a lot of people are coming back now that they've lost their jobs overseas.
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Yet the ones that have come here [and are still arriving] are fighting tooth and nail to stay. I know of several Saffer houses with 12-15 people living in them as they desperately try to stay rather than return.

Peephole said:
Lol, not behaviour one expects from a modern nation".
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Wow, you win this week's gingernut prize.

In ~13,000 posts, I'm pretty sure that's the first time someone's said "lol" to me.

Peephole said:
Sorry to inform you, but your racism is showing.
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Heck, you could be right - I keep forgetting that I'm racist.

Sending my kids to a school where whites are only 14% of the roll makes me forget it all of the time - thanks for reminding me.
 
r0ast_p0tat0es said:
As I said in the other thread...

Your cultural bias is showing. Why should anyone care how many wives he chooses to inflict upon himself?

We have real problems to deal with. Let's focus on those.

Besides, it's not like great leaders of the free world are so much better. I'd still rather have Zuma than Berlusconi.
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Its got nothing to do with cultural bias its got to do with a job description. Being President of a democracy has nothing to do with status, but everything to do with hard work. Especially since as you pointed out we have plench problems to deal with and anyone with "a" wife/family knows that this is already a handful.

The culture of democracy demands that those voted into power give attention to their constituents. This is in direct conflict with the cultural derivative of status polygamy.

We have gone from struggle leaders who were chosen because of their willingness to sacrifice for their people to status leaders chosen because they express the unrealistic aspirations of the culturally defunct first generation urban youth.

Instead of building a culture of democracy, Zuma like Mugabe did before him, is using our new democracy to promote a pseudo-cultural conflict by appealing to various forms of superstition.

This approach is justified with the same arguments used by Verwoed et alto justify the superstitious cultural conflict implicit in the philosophy of apartheid and once again we forgive them because of the guilt of losing our own superstitions.
 
Threads on same subject merged. Apologies for any confusion resulting from mixing up posts.
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Undesired Walrus said:
That shouldn't matter. Horrible word. Ugh.
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What do you mean it shouldn't matter?

ETA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

The term Coloured is also used to describe persons of mixed race in Namibia, to refer to those of part Khoisan, part white descent. The Basters of Namibia constitute a separate ethnic group that are sometimes considered a sub-group of the Coloured population of that country. Under South African rule, the policies and laws of apartheid were extended to what was then called South West Africa, and the treatment of Namibian Coloureds was comparable to that of South African Coloureds.
The term Coloured or 'Goffal' is also used in Zimbabwe, where, unlike South Africa and Namibia, most people of mixed race have African and European ancestry, being descended from the offspring of European men and Shona and Ndebele women; under white minority rule in the then Rhodesia, Coloureds had more privileges than black Africans, including full voting rights, but still faced serious discrimination. In Swaziland, the term Coloured is also used.
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Okay. It's off topic anyway, but to the coloureds in africa the word does mean something, and not something with the baggage you probably ascribe to it. Time to move on I think.
 
What's up with those backwards n***ers and their multiple wives, right you guys?
 
Peephole said:
What's up with those backwards n***ers and their multiple wives, right you guys?
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Is this some kind of belated Christmas present for The Atheist? I know he enjoys laughing at the silly things people say about him.
 
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