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Worth repeating.
Yes, the "Everyone is wrong but me!" argument. Works on me every time! So, now I'm a twoofer, and there is obviously an evil shadow organization. Of course, removing by brain with a spoon helped me reach this realization!
 
I am 10 times more interesting than you dude, why is this forum only filled with hardend people like yourself? I'v been on here for a few months now and no one has agreed with my hardly at all...funny

I would nominate this but I think the irony would fly right over his head...
 
so you're saying its impossible to glue thermate to a column and melt it enough to weaken it? if not completely melt it? if you can then thats what i mean by my statement!

Do you have any idea what thermite is or how it works?
 
The Rockefeller bloodline holds great power, aswell as great corruption aswell as great monetary value. My bloodline goes back to quanna parker, he killed people so does that mean i should be held accountable? No way, that's not the issue...obviously you don't understand the 13 key bloodlines and their influence in the world.

Obviously not, but it would help us a great deal if you'd stop preaching about it and actually presented evidence that what you're saying is true.

True, different generations have different mindsets and goals and should not be held accountable (necessarily) for evils previous generations did, however since they hold great authority aswell as secrets we must consider that when one of them speaks right??

Wrong.

well think about this, if you placed thermate on every supporting column on just 1 floor, say the 40th floor...if you ignited it then the entire top would fall down on the lower part and crush it and the building would topple over...thats logical right?

Evidence, please. No more meaningless rant.

my comment was about something that could have happend right?

Like a petulant child, begging his parents to believe his story about his real but invisible friend.
 
Gumbot, you are either lying or lack the knowledge about the relationship the CIA has and continues to have with ISI.
On another note, thanks for being the subject of my first post here at JREF!

Well, that'll be a good, friendly start.

Or you could perform the experiments yourself to invalidate or validate his theory.

I think you need to get an education in the term "burden of proof".
 
Or you could perform the experiments yourself to invalidate or validate his theory. If the theory was invalidated through the scientific process and experiments, it would completely end any discussion of Jone's theory.
What experiments? All the peer reviewed ones that Jones performed?

His theory is not presented in a falsifiable manner. There's nothing to validate or invalidate, just the ravings of a crank. He invalidates himself.
 
I am 10 times more interesting than you dude, why is this forum only filled with hardend people like yourself?

I agree that delusional people are usually more interesting than normals, but they are far less useful for ordinary, day-to-day life.

As for hardness, I can't speak for anyone else, but I involuntarily underwent a full-body polymerization process as an infant. My external skin was completely replaced by a space-age plastic. And you thought circumcision was bad!


I'v been on here for a few months now and no one has agreed with my hardly at all...funny

I can't begin to imagine why that might be. You know how the toothpaste adverts always claim "4 out of 5 dentists agree" about the efficacy of the product? Imagine that last dentist (possibly a follower of Kevin Trudeau) going around insisting, absent all evidence, that New Improved Crelm Toothpaste actually causes tooth decay and brain tumors. Now you know exactly how that lone dentist feels.


"In the battle between you and the world, bet on the world." -- Frank Zappa
 
Nothing you have posted refutes what I have said. Neither indicate a close relationship between the CIA and ISI, in fact they suggest the total opposite - one of reluctant cooperation when forced to by political pressure.

This is a far cry from Israelside's assertion that the CIA controls the ISI.

Also neither indicate any sort of official government-sanctioned relationship between Al Qaeda and the ISI. As I said, the ties between specific ISI members (even high-ranking ones) and Al Qaeda has been common knowledge for a very long time, and is no surprise whatsoever.

-Gumboot

Has any ISI agents been arrested or brought to court because of the relationships with Al Qaeda? That would be like saying, sure the bush's and the bin ladens vacation together and have oil interests together, but just ignore all of that when you try to figure out their motives in iraq, afghanistan or the world. Anyone who is half way smart can figure that out gumboot...I didn't say the CIA controls the ISI, but their relationship seems like a good one given pakistan is the major ally in the war on terror in the middle east right?
 
Wrong.

There is no realistic possibility of proving by chemical analysis of the debris that therm*te either was or was not present; the main constituents of thermite, aluminium, oxygen and iron, were all present in enormous quantities in the structure of the towers and the air around them, and any other elements found by Jones can be explained by experimental artefacts and contamination from other materials known to be present in enormous quantities. As a result, Jones's work tells us precisely nothing.

OK, that's chemical analysis disposed of. However, there is more to consider than chemical analysis. There is the absence of any testimony that large scale work was under way in the WTC towers prior to the attacks that might have been a cover for installing thermite cutting devices. There is the observed failure mode of the towers, which is visibly inconsistent with the cause being severing of the core columns. There are the known properties of the thermite reaction, which make it impossible that the proposed demolition mechanism could have been used without technology that is not known to exist and would certainly involve bulky installations, taking us back to the first point. There is the absence of any testimony from the workers cleaning up ground zero and the FBI agents examining the debris to the effect that any mechanisms were found whose purpose was unknown or mysterious and might have been connected with the use of thermite to effect a controlled demolition. There is the absence of any credible motive for controlled demolition of the towers. And so on, and so on.

In summary, there is overwhelming physical, testimonial (is that the word?) and circumstantial evidence that there was no controlled demolition of the twin towers. The suggestion that it should be considered as a possibility because a piece of evidence claimed to suggest CD cannot in fact be shown to disprove CD is what's known as shifting the burden of proof - and in this case there's ample proof to shoulder the burden.

Dave

If known MIT professors claim the wtc was a CD, and known experts in CD and building contruction claim wtc 7 was imploaded that should be enough mustard to build a theory, but since many other disagree with that...we can't prove it. Who cares, deal with things you can prove like i said before...if so many people have studied wtc7 for example tell me where i can find 100 experts that have studied it in detail and overwhelmingly believe it fell from fires and collapsing beams and then tell me why the other few believe it was a CD...I have not studied it enough but I continue to reply in here because I assume some of you must know these things...guess not
 
I'v seen it burn and now know its afterproducts and how quickly and hot it burns things...how much more do you know professor Jonny? :)

So you know it burns DOWN, correct? How could it create the horizontal cut needed to sever a column? And I'm sure you read the posts above regarding how much thermite would be required...
 
Now you know exactly how that lone dentist feels.

I am not alone in my thoughts, any of yal written a book? Since yal are so smart why not?

Each of you tell me a few corrupt things the bush admin has done since 2000, the worst things in your opinion.
 
I am not alone in my thoughts, any of yal written a book? Since yal are so smart why not?

Each of you tell me a few corrupt things the bush admin has done since 2000, the worst things in your opinion.
He used my toothbrush at NWO camp last year. And he took my lunch when I wasn't looking.
 
So you know it burns DOWN, correct? How could it create the horizontal cut needed to sever a column? And I'm sure you read the posts above regarding how much thermite would be required...

Why couldn't they wrap thermate around the column in a horizontal manner and secure it with steel clamps, so the time it melts the outter clamp it would melt the column enough to weaken it and since its horizontal melting downard would be no problem.
 
He used my toothbrush at NWO camp last year. And he took my lunch when I wasn't looking.

Yulp, about as much as I'd expect from you...another foolish joke that only makes light of a serious question. Maybe you need to ease back on the drinking Jim or is that your illegal drugs you bought from the cia? ;)
 
If known MIT professors claim the wtc was a CD,
Are you speaking hypothetically, or is there an MIT professor who claims WTC (any WTC) was a CD?

if so many people have studied wtc7 for example tell me where i can find 100 experts that have studied it in detail and overwhelmingly believe it fell from fires and collapsing beams and then tell me why the other few believe it was a CD...
Just 100? That's easy, just take a look at the names of the experts who have worked on the NIST analysis.

Now, what experts believe it was a CD? Jowenko? OK, there's one. You can always find one person in a group who would agree that Cap'n Crunch did it. Any more?
 

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