Ed All 43 videos "Second Hit"" [Explosion]at WTC 2: Plane or No Plane?

[jiggeryqua]

Please listen to the female commentators at the 1:15 mark in this video [...] they are completely at a loss for what to say and make a total horse's ass out of it what with 'planes hitting planes'

You don't do yourself any favours do you? What she clearly says is:

"Another plane hit... [tails off into stunned silence and then restarts]...another plane [silence again, having just seen something appalling involving the death of other human beings]"

Either that, or she actually said "Another plane hit another plane" because although she couldn't see either of them, she thought that two planes colliding in midair was the cause of the explosion inside the second tower.

Please listen to the male & female posters here, because you're making a total horse's ass of yourself.

 

[bill smith]

You don't do yourself any favours do you? What she clearly says is:

"Another plane hit... [tails off into stunned silence and then restarts]...another plane [silence again, having just seen something appalling involving the death of other human beings]"

Either that, or she actually said "Another plane hit another plane" because although she couldn't see either of them, she thought that two planes colliding in midair was the cause of the explosion inside the second tower.

Please listen to the male & female posters here, because you're making a total horse's ass of yourself.

I hope Dan is as aware as the other Readers are of the threadbare excuses you guys are coming up with.. Some people would say your transparently dishonest excuses.

 

[bill smith]

I believe you'll find your answer on YouTube here, from 911TruthVideos. watch?v=ymf30rN4Mxo

He posted this to explain that, whatever else he feels about 9/11, the No Planes Theory is wrong. And he addresses the very video you've highlighted.

I think you can post the full link in your next post or perhaps the one after that.
Will you do that for me ?

 

[bill smith]

Thanks to you B.S., Jammy’s no plane theory just got stuffed down his throat. Don’t that make you feel good? Not to mention all of the troofers that claim there were no large fires in the towers want to kick you butt. I just love it when troofers prove they are full of it.

This video was shot just south and under tower 2, Dan was to the west, don’t you think the sights and sounds would be different?

Did you notice the cameraman's reaction when we all heard the plane roaring in ? It was roaring in right above and behind him. His reaction was NIL.

Most people would have dived for cover when they heard a plane coming in at only 1,000 feet and full throttle knowing what had happened just 20 minutes before. It defies belief that neither he nor his brother even shouted or flinched in any way to indicate that they heard the plane. The camera stayed rock steady until after the explosion. (See link in hyperlink)

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6316378&postcount=3797 hyperlink

Can you come up with an explanation that is even remotely believable ?

 

[twinstead]

Can you come up with an explanation that is even remotely believable ?

Uh, you first bill

 

[jiggeryqua]

I hope Dan is as aware as the other Readers are of the threadbare excuses you guys are coming up with.. Some people would say your transparently dishonest excuses.

Well perhaps you were right - she was reading from a 'script' and actually said 'Another plane hit another plane'...because that's how shadowy figures in the NWO speak. I guess they were hoping the viewer wouldn't notice that the explosion came from inside the second tower, and just believe the authorative pause between 'hit' and 'another' and blame it all on a mid-air collision. Shame they had to drop that part of the 'script' so early, because a line like 'Another plane hit another plane' deserves more recognition.

I'm not one for taking on faith the labels that get thrown around in here, Bill, but now I know for sure you're either delusional or just trolling for kicks. FWIW, I shan't be ignoring you - you're either naturally gifted or working quite hard at being amusing (in much the same way as the cringemaking comedy of The Office or the unintentional laughs of early X Factor auditionees).

 

[Sabretooth]

I think you can post the full link in your next post or perhaps the one after that.
Will you do that for me ?

You really don't have a grasp of common sense at all, do you, bill?

He's new...he can't post links...if you can't figure out how to use your browser, maybe you should give up your investi-googling hobby...

Since you can't work your mouse and don't know how to copy/paste, here's the video:

 

[danmcogden]

I think you can post the full link in your next post or perhaps the one after that.
Will you do that for me ?

Bill --

I believe I read it was 50 posts to get to the URL posting capability.

If you open up YouTube, and then paste everything I wrote, you'll see the video.

Youtube.com/watch?v=ymf30rN4Mxo (attempt 1 at URL)

 

[danmcogden]

Bill -- seems like I'm able to post URLs now.

With respect to the sound of a plane being a cause for panic, though...if a loud plane were enough to stop people in their tracks here, nothing would ever get done.

3 major international airports surround us. It's loud here all the time.

 

[excaza]

How quickly would you have liked the camera guy to react, Bill?

 

[danmcogden]

Side note -- I appear to have attracted the attention of a No Planer called ozzybinoswald (though he/she uses several different account names) with my YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTtgK7e-jb4).

Anybody know anything about this person? Seems they're pretty prolific...and oddly absent from here.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Did you notice the cameraman's reaction when we all heard the plane roaring in ? It was roaring in right above and behind him. His reaction was NIL.

Most people would have dived for cover when they heard a plane coming in at only 1,000 feet and full throttle knowing what had happened just 20 minutes before. It defies belief that neither he nor his brother even shouted or flinched in any way to indicate that they heard the plane. The camera stayed rock steady until after the explosion. (See link in hyperlink)

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6316378&postcount=3797 hyperlink

Can you come up with an explanation that is even remotely believable ?

Freezing is a common reaction to this kind of thing. Its an evolutionary response to danger. Predators vision and instincts react to movement so freezing is a good first reaction to danger. You are still and essentially invisible to the predator if you saw him first. This gives you time to work on the fight or flight decision......
Now freezing is less useful when a jet aircraft is coming at you but since they have only been around for 50 years and we have been evolving for millions its not something one would expect to have changed quite yet...........
Try driving at night and see how animals react to your car...the deer in the headlights......you are just a animal and react in the same way to the unexpected.

 

[jiggeryqua]

you [Bill Smith] are just a animal

I'm no taxonomist, but I'm sure he's more properly placed in one of the other kingdoms.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Allow me to edit something in your post that jars.

Edit my posts? Bill, you can't even swat a fly with a fly swatter.

You know that you Truthers edit videos to gain more followers of your idiotic cult.

 

[jammonius]

Let this thread die.....93 pages of hand waving, dodging, and well just plain nonsense by our resident no-planer, who by the way has yet to refute any of the basic evidence that shows planes were used on Sept 11th, 2001. Not some imaginary technology that projects holograms on opaque backgrounds, not some shadow thingy that should have bounced off of the towers and fallen to the ground. The evidence is overwhelming. Jammo take the blue pill and rejoin society already.

Well, Djlunacee, it's now more like 96 pages, right? I don't know the reason why posters here call for closing an active thread?

Calls for thread closing are best understood as examples of the well know adage:

...The Truth Hurts...

 

[excaza]

 

[TJM]

Well, Djlunacee, it's now more like 96 pages, right? I don't know the reason why posters here call for closing an active thread?

Calls for thread closing are best understood as examples of the well know adage:

...The Truth Hurts...

1000's eyewitnesses. Millions televised witnesses. Ed Felt. The victims. DNA analysis. Can't hand wave. Not going away. As much as you'd desperately like it to. Because it cuts right to the heart of your delusion.

Yes, the truth hurts you.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Well, Djlunacee, it's now more like 96 pages, right? I don't know the reason why posters here call for closing an active thread?

Calls for thread closing are best understood as examples of the well know adage:

...The Truth Hurts...

I vote to have this thread closed if Jammy doesn't present his/her evidence.

Handwaving isn't evidence Jammy! You know it, I know it, hell everyone in this forum knows it. Either put up or shut up!

 

[jammonius]

1000's eyewitnesses. Millions televised witnesses. Ed Felt. The victims. DNA analysis. Can't hand wave. Not going away. As much as you'd desperately like it to. Because it cuts right to the heart of your delusion.

Yes, the truth hurts you.

Ah, ha, yet another compilation post that no longer includes the "radar data" claim but which doggedly holds onto the "1000s of eyewitnesses" despite being able to offer proof of a mere handful of plausible eyewitness statements and in seeming disregard of the far more numerous plausible NO PLANE statements that have been shown to validly exist.

That is rich.

 

[DGM]

Ah, ha, yet another compilation post that no longer includes the "radar data" claim but which doggedly holds onto the "1000s of eyewitnesses" despite being able to offer proof of a mere handful of plausible eyewitness statements and in seeming disregard of the far more numerous plausible NO PLANE statements that have been shown to validly exist.

That is rich.

So are you going to come right out and call danmcogden a liar like all the other witnesses you have so far?