Alien Visitation Contact Proof

[cjdelphi]

Reasonable explanations have been offered by people much more scientifically knowledgeable than me. You reject these explanations and keep parroting "aliens, aliens" based on no evidence at all.

No need for me to do any work. Your claim, you do the work to provide a modicum of evidence that rises above the level of opinion.

Reasonable? What's your education in, for you to say that? To make your opinion valid?

Electronics degree?
Electrical degree?

 

[cjdelphi]

^This.

cjdelphi, this really is basic, basic, pre 101 level first grade logic. If you're not able to grasp that you are wasting your own time and ours by continuing to ignore the basics. Read my previous comment about burden of proof and presumptions, and keep reading it until it sinks in, cause clearly it aint sinking in.

It ain't me ignoring evidence here

Exain the 2 flash of light
The sound
The power going out

Oh wait the power coming back on did it, well the power was on with the first search beam of light

So take that theory and stick it where the sun don't shine, get a new theory or be quiet

 

[stanfr]

UAPs are alien aircraft

Indeed they are, according to you. Which means you believe they are piloted by aliens. So provide your proof (massive sound of crickets...)

What aliens may or may not look like or even if they have been here... I don't care I know they are up to something

You are claiming they have been here--that is your claim! But you don't *know* anything, you are speculating based on shoddy reasoning skills and then expecting others to penetrate your unwillingness to recognize your shoddy reasoning skills. Back up and learn some proper logical thinking first.

I suppose we don't have robots on mars? Satellites orbiting the moon either... we do, and if we had the technology we too would do this crap until laws got passed

We are heading that way, any other intelligence out there would be driven by curiosity as well

We certainly do have those things, along with a mountain of evidence of their existence that is enough to satisfy all but flat-earthers, and that is the level of incompetent logic that you apparently aspire to, because you have produced *zero* evidence of your claim--nadda, nothing, nope.

After his many days of this, I'm not wavering infact you have found me more evidence, this forum has given me more findings and more evidence because of how much I had to fight my case here

And it's getting stronger not weaker so if the goal is to make me believe this is a magical light bulb on my estate, saying nothing to me would be a better method as you make me determined to find every anomaly in the video

I'm running out possibilities given here now, any educated person knows this is not a result or anything electrical

So you are claiming we are all uneducated? Seems a bit presumptuous and insulting, no? The goal is not to "make you believe this is a magical..." The goal is to get you to understand *how* to think critically and be skeptical of your own suppositions. So far, you have failed miserably and from this latest response it may be hopeless, so you might consider bowing out unless you aspire to be the troll.

 

[cjdelphi]

No explanation... your ridiculing means nothing, that only works if your theory fits

It can't I blasted it out of the water

Name calling might be a better option for you here?

 

[cjdelphi]

Indeed they are, according to you. Which means you believe they are piloted by aliens. So provide your proof (massive sound of crickets...)



You are claiming they have been here--that is your claim! But you don't *know* anything, you are speculating based on shoddy reasoning skills and then expecting others to penetrate your unwillingness to recognize your shoddy reasoning skills. Back up and learn some proper logical thinking first.



We certainly do have those things, along with a mountain of evidence of their existence that is enough to satisfy all but flat-earthers, and that is the level of incompetent logic that you apparently aspire to, because you have produced *zero* evidence of your claim--nadda, nothing, nope.



So you are claiming we are all uneducated? Seems a bit presumptuous and insulting, no? The goal is not to "make you believe this is a magical..." The goal is to get you to understand *how* to think critically and be skeptical of your own suppositions. So far, you have failed miserably and from this latest response it may be hopeless, so you might consider bowing out unless you aspire to be the troll.

I've been insulted here more times than I count, stop crying

You can't supply evidence of any kind to prove me wrong, show me evidence of this happening before show me a bat doing it, show me the power coming on in the video to back up the reconnection theory

Show me the light source that lights up the tree

Enough words enough insults prove to me what I'm saying is not possible by telling me the moment you see the power restored and which bulb caused the flash and how that sound was made

If you can't and all you can do is ridicule me you are not educated enough to argue with me, educated people come back with evidence not insults

 

[Craig4]

No explanation... your ridiculing means nothing, that only works if your theory fits

It can't I blasted it out of the water
Name calling might be a better option for you here?

Call upstairs, you've earned some more pizza rolls.

 

[stanfr]

It ain't me ignoring evidence here

Exain the 2 flash of light
The sound
The power going out

Oh wait the power coming back on did it, well the power was on with the first search beam of light

So take that theory and stick it where the sun don't shine, get a new theory or be quiet

If I gave you a YouTube video with flashing lights, sounds and power going out, and claimed it was the ghost of Elvis who was causing it, prove me wrong. What would you say?? What would your 'theory' be that would satisfy me that it wasn't Elvis? That's the game you are playing, and it aint impressive.

 

[Steve]

You can't supply evidence of any kind to prove me wrong

More to the point, you cannot supply evidence of any kind to prove yourself correct.

Your inability to understand burden of proof that has been explained to you numerous times in this thread is......fascinating.

 

[8enotto]

Cj, have you thought to do some experiments after dark, turning lights on and off to see just what your camera will capture?

It might even recreate some of the odd effects you say are unexplainable.

If not seek confirmation from a person or organization that thinks more like you do. Maybe you can trust thier judgement more than ours and get a spot on TV telling all about your amazing experience.

 

[Steve]

Cj, have you thought to do some experiments after dark, turning lights on and off to see just what your camera will capture?

It might even recreate some of the odd effects you say are unexplainable.

If not seek confirmation from a person or organization that thinks more like you do. Maybe you can trust thier judgement more than ours and get a spot on TV telling all about your amazing experience.

Surely you don't expect our intrepid OP to take any actions that could lead to overturning a worldview that has been so carefully cultivated for so long. There is apparently nothing that will cause a stray from the chosen path. Logic, evidence, scientific method, burden of proof, have all been categorically rejected in favor of determined blind opinion. cjdelphi is looking for agreement with those opinions and nothing else will suffice.

 

[jsfisher]

UAPs are alien aircraft

Is that your conclusion, or did you get that from someone else? Either way, where's the evidence?

 

[cjdelphi]

There *IS* alien life out there, some of it intelligent, with millions of years of technological advancement.

So then, why do we get such stupid aliens playing such stupid games?

Damn good question

We see them hover in the sky, the navy chases them and they play games with each other, we see them all the time, I don't think they give a crap ...

And let's be honest as long as they don't attack us, nobody will care, as long as we see them do very little and nothing more they are not considered a threat

The moment that changes things drastically change hence programs like atip the government doesn't care who or what owns then just as long as they are not hostile!

Now a zoo operator will gas an animal and put it back in it's enclosure, when I was operated on I just remember falling asleep and waking up instantly later

I will put my life on it and say they only hiding abductions and nothing else, I truly 100% believed nobody was abducted who has claimed they are, maybe the ones in the day but not while asleep, the people who claims they were.. I put sleep paralysis and sleep terrors down to these instances

If I'm right anyone and everyone can be taken, seen a flash of light but nothing to explain it? Waking up extremely tired? One of those people online asking for help "flash of light outside window"

Let's say they are they true victims and the crackpots who say they see greys are dreaming it and never abducted at all!

This video strongly suggests that's exactly what is going on here... if it takes another 50 years for the human race to actually collectively confirm this I'm 50 years ahead of that curve

I swear down dead on my life an electrical fault of any kind can not cause this and I've been building power supplies and tesla coils and all kinds of weird crap for the last 15 years, programming software since 1995, I wrote the 2nd most popular chat client for Yahoo chat including writing my own multi threaded server supporting hundreds of thousands of users

I've since moved into electronics and ended up with a degree I started my own software business up and started writing android apps, unfortunately I never kept it up and went into writing firmware in C for bespoke custom projects my last one was a water pump needed switching on when it got too full

I used an ultrasonic device sent out a pulse measuring how long it takes to send, the speed of sound divided by 2 basically, that length determines the distance, I then use that to determine the level of the water if too high digitalwrite(pin, high); until level<=required

My logic skills are pretty damn good..

My mental state is sound, however at least one persons mental state is highly questionable here vs mine

 

[Craig4]

My logic skills are pretty damn good.. My mental state is sound, however at least one persons mental state is highly questionable here vs mine

I'm glad you told us. Otherwise, we'd never have known.

 

[cjdelphi]

Oh ... so it is!

Is it healthy, or on its last roots? I don't see very many leaves on it.

What you saying? Aliens not impressed with my gardening skills?

 

[cjdelphi]

I'm glad you told us. Otherwise, we'd never have known.

I'm all too happy for you to find a psychologist or whatever to judge my mental state, I have something crazies don't, an explanation to back up what up you see in the video

 

[cjdelphi]

Ah, well, we get the ones who set off travelling millions of years ago when their species was just advanced enough to do that but otherwise as stupid as we are.

We don't see the clever ones who stayed home and genetically engineered themselves over millions of years to be transcendently brilliant. I mean those guys are here too as they can cross galaxies at a thought, but they're way too smart to reveal themselves. They're here studying their own dumb-as-rocks relatives as much as they are studying us.

Don't tell them I told you. The mice would be furious.

"Set off millions of years ago" lol

Quantum entanglement proves to us that breaking the speed of light or wormholes are very probable

 

[cjdelphi]

Reasonable explanations have been offered by people much more scientifically knowledgeable than me. You reject these explanations and keep parroting "aliens, aliens" based on no evidence at all.

No need for me to do any work. Your claim, you do the work to provide a modicum of evidence that rises above the level of opinion.

No they have not, show me a video of something similar lmao

 

[cjdelphi]

More to the point, you cannot supply evidence of any kind to prove yourself correct.

Your inability to understand burden of proof that has been explained to you numerous times in this thread is......fascinating.

Give me the time stamp you see the power coming back on to explain your theory

 

[cjdelphi]

You realize that by calling them anomalies, you've just said you don't know what they are right?

Duh of course they are and enough of them rules out any human reason behind it..

When you going to learn I started out more of a skeptic than anyone else here!

 

[cjdelphi]

What we're seeing here is what happens when a deeply held belief runs headlong into a group of people who don't share that belief. cjdelphi has spent years honing his narrative of extraterrestrial beings visiting Earth and on occasion abducting humans to learn more about them. Believing he has proof of this, he's posted it here for all to see ... and got a decidedly unenthusiastic response. So it's very natural and not at all unexpected that he launches a strong defense, most of which is shown to be wanting.

With information available about electrical reclosers, the effects of transient voltages on various lighting systems, and the limitations of consumer-grade surveillance cameras, I believe there's enough information available to explain the posted video in terms other than aliens. Indeed, even the the offered explanations don't 100% cover everything the video has to show, it's still a very long jump to conclude aliens caused the unexplained parts.

cjdelphi, as others have noted, in the better part of twenty years on the forum we've seen these discussions not only with regards to aliens, but to Sasquatch/Yeti/bigfoot, angels, ghosts, young earth creationism, and co-called psychic mediums. The evidence for all of these is poor, fails to stand up to scrutiny, and usually can be explained by not having to invoke the paranormal. Any argument you make against paranormal beliefs that aren't restricted to aliens holds up equally well against aliens, but your considerable investment in them makes you, at best, unwilling to consider that, and at worst unable to.

It's not fun having your ideas challenged. You have the beginnings of skeptical inquiry in your rejection of bigfoot and ghosts, but aren't willing to apply those same criteria to UFOs/UAP and alien visitation. Proper skeptical inquiry requires that you do so. Otherwise all you end up with is a bunch of special pleading as to why your particular belief is true when all the others aren't.

Oh really now..

What second in the video shows the power coming back on to make that light you see

When the power is on, all the lights are on... what causes that blue flash of light you see if all the lights are on?

A bat? Where there's electrical discharge because the bat lowered the impeadance... where is the brown out? and dip in voltage which would be shown in the lights fading in and out? What point in the video does it happen? You have a time stamp show me...

The relays shut down and stayed down...

No explanation fits, go back to ridiculing me or start giving time stamps and screen shots explaining why I'm wrong, in done with peoples word, just show me what you see in the video that proves me wrong

You're Good at telling me what it is without evidence to validate your claims, that's all you're good at