Al Sharpton channels Garrett Morris...

barehl said:
That's a nice claim but wouldn't it great if you had any scrap of fact to support it? Sharpton has been involved in a number of protests and has been arrested a number of times. But, you can't find a single video of any speech he has given where he has called for violence. Now, in contrast to that, I could dig up, what, a few hundred videos of Republicans calling for armed violence. You are following the bible quite well in pointing out a speck in Sharpton's eye while overlooking all the logs in eyes of the radical right. You might try to have more respect for yourself.
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I never said it met the legal threshold for incitement. But that incident would never had occurred if Sharpton hadn't brought attention to the store and used fiery rhetoric like "white interlopers" and organized protests against it. And allowed gusts to use anti-Semitic rhetoric on his radio show.

Do you have any examples of any violence occurring from any of the hundreds of videos you claim you have? I'm pretty confident you won't be able to find a single one, and Sharpton has a body count to his name.
 
I'm not quite sure what to say about such willful ignorance. Why would anyone pretend that the radical right does not condone violence on a daily basis and further pretend that violence doesn't happen? How many rallies do you have to see where people call the president a traitor, wave guns, and talk about civil war?

On November 9, 1995, Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley, his wife Cecilia and John Dare Baird, were arrested as they prepared explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics.

This is a tough one. Which party is anti-civil rights, anti-gay and anti-abortion?


On April 26, 1996, two leaders of the Militia-at-Large of the Republic of Georgia, Robert Edward Starr III and William James McCranie Jr., are charged with manufacturing shrapnel-packed pipe bombs for distribution to militia members.

Another tough one. Which party includes militias and is against any form of gun control?



On July 27, 1996, a nail bomb at the Atlanta Olympics, which are seen by many extremists as part of a "New World Order," killing one person and injuring more than 100 others. Investigators will later conclude the attack is linked to 1997-1998 bombings of an Atlanta-area abortion clinic, an Atlanta gay bar and a Birmingham, Ala., abortion facility.

Must be that radical anti-gay/pro-life wing of the Democratic party.


On October 11, 1996, seven members of the Mountaineer Militia are arrested in a plot to blow up the FBI's national fingerprint records center, where 1,000 people work, in West Virginia.

Must those radical Democrats who keep screaming that the federal government is coming to take away everyone's guns.
 
barehl said:
That's a nice claim but wouldn't it great if you had any scrap of fact to support it? Sharpton has been involved in a number of protests and has been arrested a number of times. But, you can't find a single video of any speech he has given where he has called for violence. Now, in contrast to that, I could dig up, what, a few hundred videos of Republicans calling for armed violence. You are following the bible quite well in pointing out a speck in Sharpton's eye while overlooking all the logs in eyes of the radical right. You might try to have more respect for yourself.
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Go ask Stephen Pagones what he thinks of Sharpton.

Michael
 
barehl said:
You're joking, right? http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001803

Are you really so ignorant that you've never heard of Gabby Gifford?

Maybe you've never heard of Byron Williams either: http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/10/11/progressive-hunter/171471
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Gabby Gifford was shot by a schizophrenic upset over grammar, not because of anything anyone said.

And I'm no fan of Glenn Beck, and no one is saying he's presidential material and he wasn't holding rallies at the Tide Foundation for weeks before the Williams incident.

You said you had "hundreds", remember? So far your body count stands at 0, Sharpton's is at 7.
 
barehl said:
I'm not quite sure what to say about such willful ignorance. Why would anyone pretend that the radical right does not condone violence on a daily basis and further pretend that violence doesn't happen? How many rallies do you have to see where people call the president a traitor, wave guns, and talk about civil war?

On November 9, 1995, Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley, his wife Cecilia and John Dare Baird, were arrested as they prepared explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics.

This is a tough one. Which party is anti-civil rights, anti-gay and anti-abortion?


On April 26, 1996, two leaders of the Militia-at-Large of the Republic of Georgia, Robert Edward Starr III and William James McCranie Jr., are charged with manufacturing shrapnel-packed pipe bombs for distribution to militia members.

Another tough one. Which party includes militias and is against any form of gun control?



On July 27, 1996, a nail bomb at the Atlanta Olympics, which are seen by many extremists as part of a "New World Order," killing one person and injuring more than 100 others. Investigators will later conclude the attack is linked to 1997-1998 bombings of an Atlanta-area abortion clinic, an Atlanta gay bar and a Birmingham, Ala., abortion facility.

Must be that radical anti-gay/pro-life wing of the Democratic party.


On October 11, 1996, seven members of the Mountaineer Militia are arrested in a plot to blow up the FBI's national fingerprint records center, where 1,000 people work, in West Virginia.

Must those radical Democrats who keep screaming that the federal government is coming to take away everyone's guns.
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What on earth are you blathering about, are those guys Republicans???? There's groups on the radical right and the radical left doing bad things. The issue is Al Sharpton has somehow become mainstream in the Democratic Party despite his buffoonery which has destroyed lives and actually killed 7 people.

In an ideal world Sharpton would be treated as a pariah much like David Duke, they're opposite sides of the same coin. Though they both agree on "the Jewish problem".
 
coalesce said:
Go ask Stephen Pagones what he thinks of Sharpton.
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So, let me see if I get this straight. Your big point is that you agree with me about the Tawana Brawley affair? So, why the pretense that we actually disagree on this point?

On July 29, 1998, the jury awarded Pagones a total of $345,000 in damages. Sharpton was found liable for $65,000 of the amount, Maddox for $95,000, and Mason for $185,000.

That sounds about right.
 
WildCat said:
What on earth are you blathering about, are those guys Republicans????
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Okay, I'll say it more slowly: Which...party...is...anti-gay, anti-abortion, and anti-civil rights, but pro-gun? Here, I'll help you out. Would a party that is not anti-gay try to blow up a gay bar? Would a party that is not anti-abortion try to blow up an abortion clinic? Think real hard and maybe you can get over that wall of denial that you've built up around yourself. Take your time--you can do it.
 
WildCat said:
Gabby Gifford was shot by a schizophrenic upset over grammar, not because of anything anyone said.
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Well, actually he was concerned that the treasury was creating money without gold or silver backing. Now who has been yammering about hyperinflation?

And I'm no fan of Glenn Beck, and no one is saying he's presidential material and he wasn't holding rallies at the Tide Foundation for weeks before the Williams incident.
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So you didn't watch the first video to see how many dozens of times O'Reilly called Tiller a baby killer.

You said you had "hundreds", remember? So far your body count stands at 0, Sharpton's is at 7.
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No, I've already mentioned some deaths. So far, you have tenuously linked a fire to Sharpton who was not calling for violence.
 
barehl said:
So, let me see if I get this straight. Your big point is that you agree with me about the Tawana Brawley affair? So, why the pretense that we actually disagree on this point?

On July 29, 1998, the jury awarded Pagones a total of $345,000 in damages. Sharpton was found liable for $65,000 of the amount, Maddox for $95,000, and Mason for $185,000.

That sounds about right.
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My apologies. I didn't see your opinion where you agreed with me about his role in the Tawana Brawley hoax. I cannot ever forgive Sharpton for his role in that, or that he didn't pay a cent of that money. His money was paid by his supporters, not him. He was front and center in a very ugly time in this city's history. NIt the was necessarily the cause of that, but he certainly exploited it at every opportunity.

Again, my apologies to you.

Michael
 
barehl said:
Okay, I'll say it more slowly: Which...party...is...anti-gay, anti-abortion, and anti-civil rights, but pro-gun? Here, I'll help you out. Would a party that is not anti-gay try to blow up a gay bar? Would a party that is not anti-abortion try to blow up an abortion clinic? Think real hard and maybe you can get over that wall of denial that you've built up around yourself. Take your time--you can do it.
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What does any of this have to do with any of your claims? Al Sharpton brought attention to, organized angry protests of, allowed anti-Semitic rhetoric at said protests and on his radio show to go unchallenged, and basically inspired the murder of 7 people in Freddy's Fashion Mart. You've offered no evidence whatsoever that there were any Republicans encouraging anyone to blow up abortion clinics, while at the same time you fault them for upholding the civil rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.

And since you so desperately want to change the subject from the despicable excuse of a human being that is Al Sharpton in the last few years we've seen Dems at the highest levels work to destroy civil rights, particularly against the 2nd Amendment as well as the 1st Amendment - in the latter case Obama even called out Supreme Court justices at a State of the Union speech for upholding the 1st Amendment.
 
barehl said:
Well, actually he was concerned that the treasury was creating money without gold or silver backing. Now who has been yammering about hyperinflation?
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(citation needed)

And that, even if it were true, is not a GOP position either, so what are you claiming here?

barehl said:
So you didn't watch the first video to see how many dozens of times O'Reilly called Tiller a baby killer.
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So? He wasn't encouraging violence or giving others the microphone or air time to threaten violence like Sharpton did. Just curious, do you hold anyone who ever criticized Ronald Reagan responsible for the assassination attempt on him? Or does this apply only to those you oppose?

barehl said:
No, I've already mentioned some deaths. So far, you have tenuously linked a fire to Sharpton who was not calling for violence.
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No, Sharpton just inflamed racial tensions and allowed racist and anti-Semitic speakers at his protests and the shooting and fire was the end result of Sharpton's weeks long campaign against Freddy's Fashion Mart.
 
Another amusing, though far more obvious, example of this sort of this sort of deceit is below:



Now, the howling claim is that "Al Sharpton said the word 'race' 314 times last year!", but anyone who isn't a total dullard will get about seven seconds in and say "Hey, didn't that chyron read 'Race to the Bottom'? Uh, that's not about skin color..."

And then at 0:11, you see the shot of Dr. MLK Jr. Who often discussed race...

And then the shot of Archie Bunker, the obvious, cartoonish bigot from All in the Family at 0:20...

And at 0:26, the obvious quote of Laura Ingram blathering about some "race card"...

And that's where I gave up. I figured they were likely on strike ten, so why bother?

But apparently, a few of the less intelligent right-wing sites have picked up on this, and think it was fantastic, such as Fox Nation and Free Republic. I'm not responsible for any brain damage if you delve into the comments, of course.. We'll see if the more prominent, but still idiotic, conservative sites like Breitbart, Daily Caller, or Twitchy pick up on it.

I'm not responsible if you delve into comments on those sites, either.
 
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dudalb said:
I lost a lot of respect for the "Rational Wiki" website when I read their article on Al Sharpton, which was basically a whitewash of him. When it comes to poltiics, Rational Wiki is not very rational. They violently condemn conservative figures for woo and nonsense, but either excuse away or ignore left wing figure when they indulge in the same. Double Standards Rock!
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I've never read Rational Wiki -- please don't take this as a defense of the site.

That said, your characterization of their write-up is so disconnected from reality as to be laughable. In an article consisting of two tiny paragraphs, there's mention of his involvement in the Tawana Brawley hoax, the Crown Heights riots, his penchant for overblowing of issues, and his antisemitic remarks.

No wonder you failed to provide a link. :boggled:
 
varwoche said:
I've never read Rational Wiki -- please don't take this as a defense of the site.

That said, your characterization of their write-up is so disconnected from reality as to be laughable. In an article consisting of two tiny paragraphs, there's mention of his involvement in the Tawana Brawley hoax, the Crown Heights riots, his penchant for overblowing of issues, and his antisemitic remarks.

No wonder you failed to provide a link. :boggled:
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To be fair, Sharpton deserves to be called out for the Brawley case, mostly because he's still unapologetic about it.

He's long since taken back his anti-Semitic remarks, and he had no real role in the Crown Heights riots, so those are irrelevant to his 2013 remarks.
 
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