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Doug:

Bin Laden did not carry out 9/11. He was the leader of the group who was responsible. Those that carried out 9/11 died in the attacks. They were given the ok by OBL through orders given by various contacts. He confessed to this, multiple times.

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Doug if you are going to go on and on about how blind we Americans are, and how much our media leads us like sheep, and how the European media exposes the lies, and how most Europeans know 911 was an inside job, perhaps you should make sure you go to a forum populated just by us dumb Americans.

Otherwise the Europeans on this forum will call you on it.

Play that card all you want. There exist a large number world-aware, non sheep Americans who read the world's media and can think for themselves who still think you are a stark, raving woo woo.
 
I take it Doug is now rapidly fleeing the scene of his last crime, namely lying about the structural capacity of the WTC Towers? Typical...

I for one am not impressed with an "organization" that has such low standards. I guess the next question is, do they just let anyone in, or do they actually exclude those who are knowledgeable enough to point out their mistakes? For instance, real architects and engineers? Doug claims to be the applicant reviewer, so he should be able to answer this.
 
Architect: Still waiting to a response to my suggestion that we have a substantive technical discussion regarding your claims; look forward to hearing from you on that.
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I have explained already why the building should not have collapsed and backed it up with solid indisputable evidence. The building was overbuilt to the point where the damage and heat caused by the plane crash should not have toppled the building.

This is backed up by observation and the fact that it was designed this way.

The building didn't topple either, it was blown up as easily shown in any of the videos of the "collapses" and collapsed straight down through itself rather than tipping as would be expected.
 
Bin Laden did not carry out 9/11. He was the leader of the group who was responsible. Those that carried out 9/11 died in the attacks. They were given the ok by OBL through orders given by various contacts. He confessed to this, multiple times.
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No, he didn't confess. That taped confession shown on CNN had its main character that didn't even look like bin Laden. When I saw that tape for the first time my heart sank because I realized that many people would actually believe that was bin Laden.

The guy on the tape was 50 lb's overweight, had a "pug" nose as opposed to bin Ladens "ski slope nose" and had much darker skin than bin Laden.

Odly enough the audio was missing. That tape was someone else planning his daughters wedding for all we know.
 
Ah, that's more like it.

So, did anyone see this "solid indisputable evidence?" All I saw was an off-hand reference to Hoffmann and some mention of the ASCE. Name-dropping, really. I'd be quite interested to see how the ASCE supports these lies...
 
8den:Would you care to name the stations and programs that did this?
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Dutch TV did a 1/2 hour special, Italian TV did a 3 episode special. These were their main channels.

Plus you have Ruppert Murdock over there telling the truth about everything on his stations.

The whole idea is to wreck America from the inside and the outside so that the world government can take over and give everyone RFID chips. Then its over.
 
Doug Plumb said:
No, he didn't confess. That taped confession shown on CNN had its main character that didn't even look like bin Laden. When I saw that tape for the first time my heart sank because I realized that many people would actually believe that was bin Laden.

The guy on the tape was 50 lb's overweight, had a "pug" nose as opposed to bin Ladens "ski slope nose" and had much darker skin than bin Laden.

Odly enough the audio was missing. That tape was someone else planning his daughters wedding for all we know.
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Doug, are these two images of the same person?
 

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P.Mackey:So, did anyone see this "solid indisputable evidence?" All I saw was an off-hand reference to Hoffmann and some mention of the ASCE. Name-dropping, really. I'd be quite interested to see how the ASCE supports these lies...
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I doubt the ASCE supports 9/11 conspiracy theories. They would lose self governance - its just like if a judge allowed us to have monetary reform and to stop paying all these rich private bankers interest on government guarenteed loans for government backed money.
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Doug Plumb said:
Dutch TV did a 1/2 hour special, Italian TV did a 3 episode special. These were their main channels.

Plus you have Ruppert Murdock over there telling the truth about everything on his stations.

The whole idea is to wreck America from the inside and the outside so that the world government can take over and give everyone RFID chips. Then its over.
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The BBC did a special too.

Can't remember what it was called...the cons...conspiracy folder.....

...conspiracy files.

That was it.

Apparently Dylan Avery doesn't know what a simile is.
Do you?
 
I also doubt the ASCE supports conspiracy theories, but in case anyone wonders what I was talking about, Doug invoked them without proper reference in this post. I guess this is "solid indisputable evidence."
 
Doug Plumb said:
I doubt the ASCE supports 9/11 conspiracy theories. They would lose self governance - its just like if a judge allowed us to have monetary reform and to stop paying all these rich private bankers interest on government guarenteed loans for government backed money.
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False analogy and unsubstantiated assertion.
 
HyJinX:Doug, are these two images of the same person?
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What two images are you referring to specifically ?

Anyone can look up the bin Laden confession tape and see the cat in that does not look like Usama.
 
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Dutch TV did a 1/2 hour special, Italian TV did a 3 episode special. These were their main channels.
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What were the names of these programs? I have a friend in italy who works in a post house, she could help me look for them. Which station?

If you're aware of them, I can find them, I just need you to tell me their names.

Plus you have Ruppert Murdock over there telling the truth about everything on his stations.
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Murdoch's a truther? :jaw-dropp Christ where's the laughing dog smiley when I need it? Do not equate the stupidity of booking David Shayler to talk about Litvinenko's murder, and letting him go off on a Tangent about 911 as an inside job.

I regularly freelance in sky news Doug, the guest booker got a dressing down for not researching what an out and out loon she was putting on air.

Oh and Murdoch's over in New York. Is the New York Times, which he also owns, a truther broadsheet? Or the Post?

I've never seen an endorsment of 911 conspiraloonary on Sky News.

The whole idea is to wreck America from the inside and the outside so that the world government can take over and give everyone RFID chips. Then its over.
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You're funny.
 
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The whole idea is to wreck America from the inside and the outside so that the world government can take over and give everyone RFID chips. Then its over.
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Dougie: Embrace the chip. It doesn't hurt. You won't get lost anymore.
 
Doug Plumb said:
I have explained already why the building should not have collapsed and backed it up with solid indisputable evidence. The building was overbuilt to the point where the damage and heat caused by the plane crash should not have toppled the building.

This is backed up by observation and the fact that it was designed this way.

The building didn't topple either, it was blown up as easily shown in any of the videos of the "collapses" and collapsed straight down through itself rather than tipping as would be expected.
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Doug

Apologies, but you appear to have misunderstood the nature of my earlier post.

You, as I understand, are a professional engineer and have posted a 3 (or so) paragraph hypothesis that there is sufficient technical cause to believe that the modelled collapse pattern is wrong.

As an engineer, you will be aware that structral engineering, fire engineering, and the like are highly technical issues.

On this basis I have asked whether you, given your professional expertise, would be willing (or able, as the case may be) to enter into a detailed technical discussion regarding the substance of your hypothesis. You will appreciate that, as a consultant architect operating in this field on a daily basis, I would anticipate exploring the key issues in considerable depth.

I look forward to your response,

Yours aye,

A.
 
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