ACORN filmmaker arrested

Right, so if someone said (of O'Keefe) "He has attended white nationalist conferences" that would be inaccurate, and if someone said (of Epstein) "he has a history of racially-motivated assaults" that would also be inaccurate. Again, excuse the pedantry. I'm busy today and can't get through all of these links. :)

ETA - Wow, bipolar alcoholic (Epstein). Sheesh.
 
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carlitos said:
Right, so if someone said "He has attended white nationalist conferences" that would be inaccurate, and if someone said "he has a history of racially-motivated assaults" that would also be inaccurate. Again, excuse the pedantry. I'm busy today and can't get through all of these links. :)

ETA - Wow, bipolar alcoholic. Sheesh.
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It was Marcus Epstein, O'Keefe's college associate, who assaulted the black woman. O'Keefe attended a conference sponsored by a conservative group where the lead speaker was a white nationalist.
 
Walter Ego said:
So he's like a fictional character in a comic book? (Cue that laughing dog.)
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Do you have problems with examples? He's like a FREELANCER. Not that he's a SUPERHERO. How could you possibly mix that up?

Breitbart: I Pay A Salary To Alleged Landrieu Plotter O'Keefe.

So unless he's technically on the payroll he is not bought and paid for by Breitbart and Breitbart has no pony in this show and Breitbart's website is a completely unbiased source for information about O'Keefe?
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From your own link.

AB: ... So when he puts a story out there, it's on the Brietbart sites, the Big sites, that he can tell people what transpired. So...
HH: Do you pay him for that?

AB: Yes.

HH: And are you free to tell me how much you pay him?

AB: I'll...perhaps at another date, but he's paid a fair salary.

HH: Is he...so he is an employee?

AB: I'm not sure that's technically the thing, but yes, he's paid for his life rights. And he's, you know, he's still...we reserve the right to say yes or no to any of the stories that he puts up on our site as we do to any other contributor who comes to the site.
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Walter Ego, what would you say is the piece of evidence that best convinces you that O'Keefe ever attended a "white supremacist conference"?
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I never said O'Keefe attened a "white supremacist conference."

I said.

O'Keefe attended a conference sponsored by a conservative group where the lead speaker was a white nationalist
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The speaker was Jared Taylor who advocates racialist theories to explain the sociological and economic problems associated with non-whites, particularly blacks, in Western countries.
 
Lurker said:
Um, I didn't introduce it, I commented on it and even expressed some skepticism of the article by pointing out a lot of guilt by association taking place in it. I also even expressed an early notion of dismissing the Planned Parenthood prank as not being motivated by racism.
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I introduced it because I thought it was worthy of discussion. The motives behind the article have been exposed. I'm not terribly interested in this topic, but I like to contribute when I can.
 
Kevin Martin, the black conservative supposedly tricked into going to this evil white supremacist cross burning has issued a statement:

As a panelist at the Robert Taft Club 'Race and Conservatism' event in 2006, I had the chance to personally meet James O'Keefe after the event ended. He voiced personal support for me and my positions. He also repudiated the radical elements in the room that night.

Marcus Epstein invited me - a black conservative - to a discussion on race issues, not O'Keefe. What transpired was a spirited debate against radical elements of which I and other conservatives were clearly opposed. At no time did I feel intimidated, nor was I ever treated poorly by my hosts. The Blumenthal story is long on accusation and short on facts.

The left is attempting to label O'Keefe as a racist, but this probably has nothing to do with his ideas or associations now or then. I believe it is only because he recently exposed the radicalism of ACORN and the illegal advice its workers chose to give out. By labeling O'Keefe a racist, they likely seek to change the public view of O'Keefe's work from one of exposing corruption and law-breaking to one of a white conservative going after a group empowering the poor and minorities.
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You can read the whole thing here.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Do you have problems with examples? He's like a FREELANCER. Not that he's a SUPERHERO. How could you possibly mix that up?
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Breitbart has the right of first refusal on what the pimp writes. He subsidizes his trips to the scenes of his crimes.

He's a rotting albatross around Breitbart's neck.

And I still refuse to call him a journalist. Journalists investigate current events. Pimp creates the events to fit his foregone conclusions. No rational person should give him the time of day.
 
leftysergeant said:
Breitbart has the right of first refusal on what the pimp writes. He subsidizes his trips to the scenes of his crimes.

He's a rotting albatross around Breitbart's neck.

And I still refuse to call him a journalist. Journalists investigate current events. Pimp creates the events to fit his foregone conclusions. No rational person should give him the time of day.
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I dont know whether O'Keefe does that or not. But I know he sure would'nt be the first. Was'nt it 60 minutes who you were praising that admitted to planting small explosives on Ford trucks to make them blow up in one of their stories?
 
Ziggurat said:
So? He doesn't call himself a journalist, so your "refusal" to do so is not exactly meaningful.
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O'Keefe doesn't call himself a journalist? What about this:

O'Keefe said:
As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions, as I did last year when our investigations revealed the massive corruption and fraud perpetrated by ACORN. For decades, investigative journalists have used a variety of tactics to try to dig out and reveal the truth.
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Drysdale said:
I dont know whether O'Keefe does that or not. But I know he sure would'nt be the first. Was'nt it 60 minutes who you were praising that admitted to planting small explosives on Ford trucks to make them blow up in one of their stories?
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That was Dateline NBC.
 
Drysdale said:
I dont know whether O'Keefe does that or not. But I know he sure would'nt be the first. Was'nt it 60 minutes who you were praising that admitted to planting small explosives on Ford trucks to make them blow up in one of their stories?
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I never praised 60 Minutes. I just pointed out that they are not criminals and deliberate liars like Breitbart and pimp and sleaze.
 
applecorped said:
How was using explosives to mislead not deliberate?
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How is this relevant to pimp and sleaze? Why are you attaching this to anything I said? I think that the producers who used explosives should have gone to jail for fraud.

Care to find something that exculpates pimp and sleaze from my allegation that they criminally conspired to make it appear that ACORN was going to help them had they really intended to run a brothel?

The sleaze team did not set out to find out whether ACORN was a corrupt organization. They set out to create the impression that they were.

Their intent was to destroy ACORN for the benefit of the right wingers.
 
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