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Abortion: My personal experience

RandFan, your clarification is appreciated. My apologies if I was unduly harsh.
 
Puppycow said:
There is nothing brave about anonymously calling someone a coward over the internet.
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I have not claimed that I was being brave. I was simply telling an important truth. A man who willingly participates in the murder of his own child is, at best, a coward. I don't claim that it takes any special courage to say so.

As it happens, I am also considerably less “anonymous” than the majority of people in this forum, including yourself.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
I have not claimed that I was being brave. I was simply telling an important truth. A man who willingly participates in the murder of his own child is, at best, a coward. I don't claim that it takes any special courage to say so.

As it happens, I am also considerably less “anonymous” than the majority of people in this forum, including yourself.
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old long debunked myths are not important truths, go tell them in churches, ther you will find nutters caring about your fairytale.


btw, the guy went to other countries risking his live to fight for your country, nad you call him a coward over the net, classy there.
 
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For Those Who Failed Biology

Please learn now.

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Any questions?
 
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That was an interesting read OP. I have much sympathy for the women and couples in various states in the US, where it has become harder and harder to exercise free choice.
 
DC said:
oh shut up you *********** *******.
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Exactly.

It is better to abort an unwanted foetus than bring an unwanted child into the world. Unwanted kids are often resented, neglected and abused or put into the care system.

Have you ever been in a government run chilren's home? The staff do their best to look after the kids in their care, but it it nothing like a home.

Kids in care generally do very badly at school, and are much more likely to have alchohol and drug problems than average. The suicide rate is also much higher.

IMHO foxholeatheist, you and your wife made the right decision. Please ignore any hostile posts.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
There is nothing brave about murdering one's own helpless child.
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Point of order:

It has been some years since I last held the post of Ward Clerk or Executive Secretary and as such had access to the Mormon churches "General Handbook of Instructions". So I am going purely on memory here, but as I recall, members of the church who are convicted of the crime of murder in most western jurisdictions are immediately excommunicated from the church. Members who have had abortions are not. They might be, depending on the circumstances (such as marital infidelity, attempts at cover-up, et cetera...) but it is not automatic as it is with the actual commission of "Colonel Mustard in the Study with the candlestick" murder.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled flame-war.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience, foxholeatheist. It is a pity that one poster chose to use your thread to make his hate-filled points; they would have been better in another thread.
 
FoxholeAtheist,


Bestwishes and hopes for you and your wife .... keep strong and healthy.




Bob Blaylock.......sigh

Bob Blaylock said:
There is nothing brave about murdering one's own helpless child. This was a supreme act of cowardice, at best.
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Where to start.... I am sure you will not listen to any reason.....but let me see if I can do it using your retarded scriptures.

God has killed millions of babies according to the biblical saga.
  • HE CAUSED HIS OWN SON to be killed so as to forgive people he could have clicked his fingers to forgive instead
  • He killed millions of babies when he flooded the world
  • He causes people to EAT THEIR CHILDREN for not loving him
  • He TORTURED for SEVEN DAYS and then killed David’s bastard son to punish David for the sin of adultery and murder
  • He killed the children of the Egyptians because the Pharaoh had his heart hardened by god himself....even the slaves' sons
  • He orders the Hebrews to kill children and exterminate entire races….and he assists.
  • He killed thousands of babies when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah
  • He killed millions of Hebrew babies when he was REPEATEDLY and ENDLESSLY punishing them for not loving him as much as he wanted.
  • He promises to kill babies To the FOURTH GENERATION of people who don't love him as much as he desires
  • He lets millions of babies die before they come to term
  • He lets millions of babies die from diseases and hunger
  • He lets millions of babies be born with congenital and genetic diseases
  • He ordered Abraham to kill his son.
  • He let Jephthah kill his daughter to fulfill a pledge he made to him in return for winning a war where Jephthah kills babies of other people
  • He killed the children of Korah for opposing Moses
  • He stands idly by while millions of children are being killed annually
And the list goes on and on ad nauseam.

What happens to a baby that dies.....does he go to heaven?
  • if so then what are you complaining about? Isn't it better for them to go to heaven instead of suffering in this world and maybe turning out to be hell bound?
  • if you think babies go to hell if not baptized then SHAME ON YOU....but even more to the point.... shame on a vile and heinous god who does that.


Anyway....even god does not consider a FETUS a human being.....consider this LAW....

Exodus 21:22-25
If a man strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart [from her,] and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges [determine. ] And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.​

I am sure you will interpret this anyway to bolster your hateful nature....but I interpret it to mean that a baby is not a human until it is actually born.

Notice the verse means that if the woman aborts due to violence then the perpetrator will pay a fine.....not be killed.

But if the woman dies then he will be killed.

So this shows that an aborted fetus DOES NOT have the same status as a living being......even by your god's opinion.
 
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Thank you so much for posting this. I remember another forum member, years ago, posting her own story. Don't think I would be able to find it now, but it, too, did a fantastic job at "giving the issue a face" and reminding us of how much emotion goes into such a momentous decision.

Oh, and a word of advice -- whenever someone comes barging into a thread like an elephant in a glass store, full of emotion or political fury and apparently incapable of empathy (like Bob in this thread or JihadJane in the thread about the US special forces helicopter crashing)... just put him or her on ignore. Responding encourages such behaviour, while ignoring the responsible party teaches him/her (yeah, I'm an optimist) that being a **** isn't tolerated and will only lead to everyone giving you a cold shoulder.

When, or if, Bob matures enough to partake in such a discussion with a minimum of empathy and understanding, I will take him off of ignore. Until then,

Please don't feed the troll.​
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
There is nothing brave about murdering one's own helpless child. This was a supreme act of cowardice, at best.
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But God loves abortions. He performs quite a few of them himself.

Spontaneous abortion (SAB), or miscarriage, is the term used for a pregnancy that ends on it's own, within the first 20 weeks of gestation.

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Miscarriage is the most common type of pregnancy loss, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG). Studies reveal that anywhere from 10-25% of all clinically recognized pregnancies will end in miscarriage.
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Source: http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/miscarriage.html

Note that the 10-25% is for clinically recognized pregnancies. About 50% of all fertilized eggs are spontaneously aborted before or during the process of implantation – often so early that a woman goes on to get her period at about the expected time.

Source: http://www.babycenter.com/0_understanding-miscarriage_252.bc

-Bri
 
I notice that you did not respond to my comment Bob.

Gord_in_Toronto said:
Judge not for in the fulness of time you shall be judged.
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I believe this was purportedly said by some mythical guy that supposedly died a couple of millennia ago.

I do like the sentiment though. ;)
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Do not ever forgot, that you had a precious son or daughter, who could have brought great joy to you (or if not to you, to a very fortunate set of adoptive parents), and who could have made a great contribution to the world. And you chose to kill him or her, rather than give him or her a chance at life.
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Or the child could have grown up to be a mass murderer like Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy. Or even a dictator like Stalin, who murdered millions. Or a pervert like Ted Haggard. In which case, we owe the OP a medal.

Bob Blaylock said:
Some day, you will stand before your maker, with your murdered child's blood dripping from your hands, and you will be held to account for yourself. I do not envy you.

You chose to deal with a difficult situation in the most cowardly and depraved manner available to you, and you arrogantly proclaim it as an act of courage.
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Poe?
 
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