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Merged Abolute proof UAL 175 never struck WTC tower 2

progge said:
Thanks for these useful informations. Is there a significant difference between TSD and ASD?
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I would be interested as well. However, when all is running smoothly I cannot see that there would be a significant difference. 99.9% of the time the aircraft will be following its submitted flight plan and changes to that plan will be updated every few minutes. It throws a wrench into the works when ATC cannot accuratly identify where the specific aircraft is or where it now intends to go.

By the explanations given above Flight Explorer is dependant upon the aircraft being positively identified by transponder (the announcer even says that the display is only of commercial aircraft) , and the aircraft going where it is expected to go.
 
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jaydeehess said:
By the explanations given above Flight Explorer is dependant upon the aircraft being positively identified by transponder (the announcer even says that the display is only of commercial aircraft) , and the aircraft going where it is expected to go.
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Unlike the author of this thread, I sent a link to the YouTube video to Flight Explorer and asked if they could assist us in understanding what was going on. Perhaps they will respond in a few days and we can clear some of this up. An error made by the thread author is that it is NOT an FAA issue, but a Flight Explorer issue and only they can respond to his questions.
 
Flight Explorer

I've had Flight Explorer since long before 9/11.

When I was finally able to get a connection on 9/11, UA 175 had just hit WTC 2. I took a screen snap of the FE screen showing UA175 in Connecticut.

This is perfectly in keeping with how Flight Explorer worked back then and has already been beaten to death years ago.

Flight Explorer updates its screen data every minute. That does not mean it updates every flight every minute. There are also data interruptions. FE was designed to deal with missing data and interruptions by displaying a projected position in time based on the last confirmed data update. We who use FE already knew that.

UA 175 data dropped immediately on hitting WTC 2. FE kept displaying UA 175 projected positions for 2 cycles, the first over Long Island Sound, the second into Connecticut. The projected positions were based on the last real data read of UA175's position, heading, altitude, and speed, which, as we know, had it going right through WTC 2.

Enough of your 9/11 Truther lack of knowledge, JSSTyger. Go back and educate yourself and keep away form the false data the 9/11 Truth Movement wants you to believe.
 
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911files said:
Unlike the author of this thread, I sent a link to the YouTube video to Flight Explorer and asked if they could assist us in understanding what was going on. Perhaps they will respond in a few days and we can clear some of this up. An error made by the thread author is that it is NOT an FAA issue, but a Flight Explorer issue and only they can respond to his questions.
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But is not Flight Explorer a mere division of the NWO? ;)

Wanna bet if JSS accepts their answer before it is even seen?
 
bje said:
I've had Flight Explorer since long before 9/11.

When I was finally able to get a connection on 9/11, UA 175 had just hit WTC 2. I took a screen snap of the FE screen showing UA175 in Connecticut.

This is perfectly in keeping with how Flight Explorer worked back then and has already been beaten to death years ago.

Flight Explorer updates its screen data every minute. That does not mean it updates every flight every minute. There are also data interruptions. FE was designed to deal with missing data and interruptions by displaying a projected position in time based on the last confirmed data update. We who use FE already knew that.

UA 175 data dropped immediately on hitting WTC 2. FE kept displaying UA 175 projected positions for 2 cycles, the first over Long Island Sound, the second into Connecticut. The projected positions were based on the last real data read of UA175's position, heading, altitude, and speed, which, as we know, had it going right through WTC 2.

Enough of your 9/11 Truther lack of knowledge, JSSTyger. Go back and educate yourself and keep away form the false data the 9/11 Truth Movement wants you to believe.
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nice, simple, articulate post. Thank you bje.

I am sure JSS will have something to say about it.

TAM:)
 
911files said:
TSD and ASD are essentially different names for the same thing. You'll hear the terms used interchangably on the FAA audios. Cheap Shot will be able to add something to the different term meanings for sure.
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Cheap Shot said:
No basically the same, they changed the name.
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Thanks for your well-informed replies.
To add a follow up thought, I assume, that (in some way) ASD/TSD system explains the following anomaly on flight dispatcher Ed Ballinger´s ASD display, too. (This is from the 9/11 Commissions Briefing of United Airlines System Operations Control Center and Crisis Center, recently released, p. 3.)

McCurdy recollected that at the time of the crash into tower 2, the display on Ballenger's monitor still showed VAL 175 at 31,000 ft, having just deviated from the normal flight plan and heading into a big tum back east.
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Seems to be a stalled update of flight data: Course change is visible, but then the updates stopped.
 
Ok..maybe I'm new...but what in the OP's video have anything to do with the plane not hitting the trade center? I just don't see it.

I did a preliminary test on the Woo-O-meter Mark II, on this thread. Fortunately this time I wore asbestos gloves ..The mark II, on activation, emitted a small amount of plasma and then completely vaporized. Back to the drawing board.
 
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Where did JSSTyger run off to? Did he run out of cartoons?
 
MIKILLINI said:
Just one: How can you still be so wrong after 7+ years?
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Even though I skipped the rank stupidity of this thread, it makes me giggle to see someone think they uncovered the case-cracker of the 9/11 conspiracy that's evaded every other person on the planet, even though it's been readily available on Youtube for years. The perfect storm of ignorance and arrogance rages on.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
So? What's inaccurate about what I said? The planes were not tracked or identified. No plane that crashed on 9/11 ended with a transponder code it started out with.
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Do me (and yourself) a huge favor: since Google and YouTube are now the primary conduits through which this generation learns the machinations of the world, Google (or YouTube) the operation of IFF transponders, how they function and what happens when they malfunction or cease to function (hint: you will also want to research RADAR). Report back here with your results and how they apply to the current issue, especially as related to Flight Explorer.
 
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