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A Vision I Had

TENYEARS said:
Do you really think I am going to post them on the forum for you? Right.
Why not? What is the problem with that? If you are so sure you are right then what is stopping you?

OH, IS IT THE MONEY??? Worried we might use your predictions to claim your prize money?

OK, then. Write your visions down, make a few copies, seal them each in seperate envelopes, and post them registered mail* to people you trust for safekeeping. But make sure you also send one to Randi so he can check it for himself when/if you tell him your prediction comes true. That way you can't lose! OK?

*So you have an irrefutable proof of the date of of your prediction.
 
I'll be honest I couldn't give to s???? about Randy, my vision is going to come true and it will be known with or without. That is reality my friend. And visions are what is and people do not have special powers, it is an inate ability of all people. Wake up.
 
TENYEARS said:
I'll be honest I couldn't give to s???? about Randy, my vision is going to come true and it will be known with or without. That is reality my friend. And visions are what is and people do not have special powers, it is an inate ability of all people. Wake up.

That's right buddy, you just keep telling yourself you're special. You don't need anybody else to tell you that. Remember, you're unique and nobody else can bring you down. Your special powers are real because you know it and you don't need to prove it to anyone, because you know they are real. Don't let these mean skeptics get under your skin either!

Kook power!
 
TENYEARS said:
I'll be honest I couldn't give to s???? about Randy, my vision is going to come true and it will be known with or without. That is reality my friend. And visions are what is and people do not have special powers, it is an inate ability of all people. Wake up.
A great and wise man one lived for 20 years in a mountain cave. There he pondered the mysteries of the world, cast his mind into the abyss of deep thought, and explored endless possibilities of wisdom.

And then, one day, he suddenly realised the one great truth in the world.

"That's it!" he said to himself. "I have to go and tell the world this one great truth!"

And so he set off to civillisation, to bring the great truth. For many, many days he walked, down the rugged mountainside, across the freezing streams, along the stony roads. And all that time he was fired up by the knowledge that only he knew the great truth of the world.

Finally he arrived at a small town, and he started to look for someone to tell the great truth to for the first time. A small child wandered up to him, pointed at him and started to speak. The man held up his hand to interrupt, wanting to get the great truth out first.

Then the huge buffalo that the child was trying to warn him about ran him down and killed him.



Hope this doesn't happen to you, TENYEARS! :D
 
Do you really think I am going to post them on the forum for you? Right.

No, by all means have them notorised and placed in a safe place. Perhaps you could even send them in, ahead of time, as part of your application for consideration for the JREF prize.

I'll be honest I couldn't give to s???? about Randy, my vision is going to come true and it will be known with or without. That is reality my friend. And visions are what is and people do not have special powers, it is an inate ability of all people. Wake up.

I don't know whether the nature of your premonition is that any element of it can be stopped, but of this is the case then I believe that it's you duty to inform the authorities so that they can help to prevent the incident (if anyone is going to be killed or injured).

Clearly, if it's impossible to prevent, then it's probably best not to tell anyone in case they just stress out about somethng they're powerless to avoid
 
Zep, careful what you wish on others it many times comes upon us. I herd that story before, I am not like that relatively speaking and yet at one time in our lives we have all been like that at one moment or another, but this is not about I.

The Don, before this one disaster occured, knowing it was going to happen it consumed me. I knew people were going to die and could do nothing. I feared for my family the people I know, I almost really lost it. You do not understand what it is to have a vision I don't know maybe you do and you arer toying. The irony of how it occured where it occured the frequency and the details would blow you away then again maybe not.

I do not post such things on a forum and I try not to post logic as in PF because people just consume without knowing. They say yes I know that or yes I know that and what do they know. I have watched philosophies altered by my words and taken as their own. This will not promote change. Change must occur by the admission of the truth in a proven manner. This will not change an individual, but it will now rid them of paper thin walls that may possibly keep them from understanding.

This is only a small problem with the world, the juggernaut of consumption is what must be contened with if we are to survive on this planet. Knowing what is, how is when is may help to alter that.
 
TENYEARS,

No I'm afraid I don't know what it's like to have a vision. The pain and anguish it clearly puts you through makes me glad that I don't. I do occasionally have quite realistic dreams about things in the future, but to date their agreement with what happens is, in my opinion, no greater than chance.

I've been reading your last post and you've clearly seen something which has concerned you greatly. I haven't got your gift for interpretation and so I've found it very difficult to truly understand what you're warning us about.

You say:
I do not post such things on a forum and I try not to post logic as in PF because people just consume without knowing. They say yes I know that or yes I know that and what do they know. I have watched philosophies altered by my words and taken as their own. This will not promote change. Change must occur by the admission of the truth in a proven manner. This will not change an individual, but it will now rid them of paper thin walls that may possibly keep them from understanding.

Which I think means that you don't want to spoon feed us answers but instead wish us to come to our own elightenment.

You say:
This is only a small problem with the world, the juggernaut of consumption is what must be contened with if we are to survive on this planet. Knowing what is, how is when is may help to alter that.

Have you foreseen some global cataclysm ?
 
TENYEARS,

Please forgive me if I misrepresent you. I took the time to look at the Physics Forum to try and get and insight into your visions. For those JREF members who don't have the time here is a summary:

TENYEARS is very concerned by the fact that traditional wisdom and ways of thinking are severely constraining the human race. TENYEARS has been able to transcend this traditional wisdom and his visions have both enabled him to see the future and to truly understand some of the fundamental forces of nature (for example TENYEARS really and truly understood gravity in 1991).

This elightenment first came to TENYEARS in 1987 and in this time TENYEARS has sought to share the wisdom (for want of a better word) with others. Over time however, TENYEARS has become more guarded because the understanding has either been met with blind slavish following (without seeking to truly understand) or with ridicule from those who are bound to current thinking.

Based on this, I can understand TENYEARS' reluctance to say too much but clearly this makes it more difficult for the rest of us to truly understand what TENYEARS is trying to open our eyes to.
 
The Don, I don't have the power to open anyones eyes hell there are days I can barely keep my own eyes open. I can't even communicate with people, because communication is a thing that occurs rarely.

I can only hope that if the frame work of reality is known, maybe it would not have to be understood, but maybe just maybe it would affect peoples lives enough.

I am not afraid of ridicule that much, but I am afraid for the future of the planet. My mistress is nature, and she is dieing slowly and we are killing her. Maybe just maybe the truth can make some difference. The truth has always been here, it's just that we don't always see it and in some cases would we know we have.

Gotta go. Happy Thanks Giving To All For Today
 
I have this problem with what you are saying TY.

You come here and say "I have a vision and it will come true...but I am not going to tell you what it is". Why are you posting here then? To stick your tongue out? "I know something you don't nyah!nyah!nyah!"

Furthermore, you also claim that you have "the truth" but won't share it. Arrogant are we? Damn right - the truth, in whatever form it takes, is not the sole preserve of an individual. If you are so concerned you are duty bound ethically, morally and spiritually to share it so others may reverse the trend that you say is happening. To not do so makes you worse than anyone else - will you gladly fiddle while Rome burns?

Third, you "don't give a ????" about Randi. Again - why the hell post here then?

TY, whatever else you claim you are a troll. Posting for responses so you can stick out your tongue and say "not telling". If you have a truth to share and help the world then help it. If you won't fine - clear off an watch while society collapses and smile smugly that you could have helped and did not. In other words, crap or get off the pot.

(Please note the above does not mean I agree that TY or his statements - it just seemed to make me feel better tha hurling random insults)

Bahala Na!
 
I finally worked out what sort of a cataclysmic event is being referred to here... It's an event of planetary proportions. That's right folks, tenyears is referring to the famous, currenlty stalled Planet X.
 
The Don, that thread contains all the logic of why one should or should not do such a thing. My other worry is the truth in the hands of a sceptic, from this truth would arise something quite new. Since it would be proved through this challange, he/they would have great influnce over it's affect upon the world. Would it be objective? Would the direction of this knew knowlege be for the people, for the embetterment of human kind?

I also know many would become afraid, if it was found to be true. I know something they do not which would make them not afraid, and yet they would have to believe that as much as they would have to belive that it is real if someone said it is real with so call proof.

Anyway most of the logic is in the thread with a few really good skeptics.

I suppose the question is is Mr Randi or his foundation really interested in the truth? I know the world does not want to know to some degree, and for me that is obvious. If it does not, it is still subject to it's unconcious actions which I don't care what you belive, are subject to the law. The law which is referenced in the bible is the law of physics, for that which is understood and for that which will be understood.

Maybe the time is now.
 
maybe the time is now

Then state your case or leave.

I ask again, who are you to claim authority over the truth? Are you the only beloved of your god? Are you the only one who knows? Then speak now or forever fiddle and watch - your pontification is meaningless and unwanted.

Bahala Na!
 
Hannibal, I am authority over nothing, but I am a witness to it. We speak and understand from the perspective we live. These words are from me, realized by me, but I do not own them. I have taken them from no one and yet they come from me. Do you understand? I am not toying with your mind, rather it is your mind toying with what you think is you.
 
I am not toying with your mind, rather it is your mind toying with what you think is you.


:dl: How many times have you posted that on forums in the last how many years? Getting a little cliche ain't it? :D
 
iSani said:
Kestää ikä I-KIRJAIN had avarakatseisuus joka jälkisäädös johtua jotta antaa. Se jälkisäädös ilmetä jokin joka ei sovittu ja kynnys jälkisäädös olla säilykerasian avaaja. Arvoitus on se won't heilahdus jokin , koska kokea jälkisäädös hiljentää olla ulkona itse , nyt kuluva I-KIRJAIN kin saha. I-KIRJAIN jälkisäädös harus vauge model after nyt kuluva , ainoastaan te aari läksytys jotta jokin ainoa joka has had näkö puhuttu -lta heidät ja he hankkia esiintyä. I-KIRJAIN ajaa hankkia oikeaksi todistavat ainoastaan kaivata ei kukaan. I-KIRJAIN hankkia methodolgy ajaksi kokeileminen moinen asia. Oi , kyllä I-KIRJAIN don't lekotella luona elämäntapa. We'll hiippakunta mikä esiintyä.
Yikes! Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
I have only been on the physics forum and it was about a year ago this past day or two ago. I do not post alot, although my posts here have actually been quite high in perportion to my posts on PF. I am not interested in convincing, and it seems from some of your repsonses, that this is a group of people just having fun with Randi as the organizer. Seems you just kinda want to be a part of something that means something from what I can gather from SOME of your posts. It does appear that some of you may be objectively looking for the truth I would like to know how one can exist in this life and not. To live and die and not know what is, what you are, what you are surrounded by where you are going if anywhere. Strange way to live.
 
Not know truth, not know where we're going, not know what is? Quite the contrary.

Your truth is not ours obviously, and what makes your truth more truthful than ours? What makes you right, and the only right?


If you wanna preach your kind of truth, and least come out with it buddy. I'm sure there are tons of people who see truth as you do, and if you don't want to be so disgruntled, go find em, and they will worship you as you seem to want to be worshipped.

Skeptics are skeptics, and your truth or vision, or whatever can be objectively looked at, but not when you hide it like a scared child who doesn't want to be laughed at.

What did you expect when you posted here? For us to drop everything and beg for your truth? Come on.
 

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