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A Vision I Had

Ham and Cheese Quiche

2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 cup half-and-half
3 eggs
2 slices Swiss cheese
1 recipe pastry for a 9 inch single crust pie
1/2 cup chopped fresh spinach
1/2 cup canned mushrooms
1 (4.5 ounce) can ham, flaked
1/2 cup shredded Cheddar cheese

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).

Beat together flour, salt, half-and-half and eggs in a medium bowl.

Place Swiss cheese flat in the pie crust. Arrange spinach evenly over Swiss cheese, then cover with mushrooms. Pour the flour and egg mixture over mushrooms. Cover with flaked ham and top with Cheddar cheese.

Bake in the preheated oven 45 to 55 minutes, until surface is golden brown.
 
Rustypouch: you do know I'm not serious about the psychic powers thing, right? I can't even do that spoon bending trick right.
 
TENYEARS said:

I could write a book and I know it would sell because it is true and that which is true writes itself. Problem is we would still have believers and doubters and truth would still not be a proved accepted fact. Truth is when it is proved, it will be a fact, but it will be like a church, a place to visit and then to move on. The knowlege of it's experience will not be part of peoples lives. That was part of the vision, and I was greatly disappointed.

That is so beautiful! Will you sign my yearbook?

Have a cool summer.

-Ig
 
Suezoled: That was just directed to this thread in general, not your post in particular. I hope you did not take insult.

Besides, I like quiche and can perform some psychic effects.
 
Chad, the difference is I don't give a damm about belief, what is belief? It is meaningless carp. Knowing is the only thing that counts. Knowing is a state beyond doubt, beyond convinced. Nothing will change with believes on either side, only knowing the truth can change anything or at least yourself.

I will look them up and see. Thanks
 
TENYEARS said:
Last year I had a vision which will come to pass. It will prove something which was not understood and the doors will be opened. Problem is it won't change anything, because the experience will still be outside yourselves, this I also saw. I will stay vauge on this, but you are talking to some one who has had visions spoken of them and they have happened. I do have witnesses but need none. I have a methodolgy for proving such a thing. Oh, yea I don't lie by the way. We'll see what happens.

Claiming to be a psychic when you have no psychic powers does not make you a psychic.

Predicting the predictable ("the sun will rise tomorrow", "I'm going to take a poop next week", etc.) does not make you a psychic.

If an event passes, and you suddenly link that event to thoughts you had before it occurred, you are not a psychic (i.e. Psychics are not allowed to predict events after they occur).

Deliberately keeping your predictions vague (producing an effect of "open to interpretation" that makes the predictions statistically more likely) does not make you a psychic.

Doing any of (but not limited to) the listed above is intellectually dishonest and will only grant people like me to consider people like you full of ◊◊◊◊.
 
what is belief? It is meaningless carp

Is that the same as a "red herring"? Myabe Lyndale could say "Cod is"! Do your visions come to you in a "Bream" or are they received when you are in a public "plaice"?

I smell something fishy here....:D
 
It's a shame that we've chosen to rip the **** out of TENYEARS give the poor person the benefit of the doubt for a little while at least

TENYEARS, In order to qualify for the $1m, the premonition must be communicated to Randi ahead of time. The prediction must be specific (as everyone so far has said, generalisations are no good) and the prediction must also relate to something over which you have no control. For example, predicting that there will be a terrorist attack in a given place is not valid if you plan to carry out the attack.
 
rustypouch said:
Suezoled: That was just directed to this thread in general, not your post in particular. I hope you did not take insult.

Besides, I like quiche and can perform some psychic effects.

Well, I am jealous. You not only have quiche, but psychic powers. All I can do is predict when people will die. :p
 
The Don said:
It's a shame that we've chosen to rip the **** out of TENYEARS give the poor person the benefit of the doubt for a little while at least
Well, given that his very first post to this board was an accusation that Randi pays off the testers to get the result he wants, I'm not sure how much benefit of the doubt we should extend in return.
 
Ok, thought experiment or not.

Example, but possibly parallel please analyse honestly.
I tell you there will be a terrible disaster, the trains will be stopped accross the country because of it. Did not know the date exactly but the the approximate 4 or 5 day period. Told many and knew it would happen, oneday it hit me while walking, and told some people who happened to be there at the time. There were other events which occured with it, but upon arriavial of that week, I witnessed that part of my interpretation of the vision was wrong not to do with the disaster but what led up to it in my personal life which was also fortold before the vision. It actually gave it far more credibility due to the nature of this certain thing. I would have told people say before I left on this event and during this event informed individuals the day before saying it would occur and this individual would say see it on television and not to worry. Another individual was also informed. The first individual formed the second say letting all know of what had occured since we were predisposed for some reason. It occured on the day and all in the party includin the reciever of the call knew of it. The event occured thousands of miles away and was not due to human intervention. I know this is vague, but give it a shot. Let us also note that up to 50 people new of the vision before hand.

Note: Lets assume this individual only had one other disaster which was specified which also came true. This individual has never said anything of this nature or to this degree ever before.
 
TENYEARS, I claim I did all that stuff you talked about and more. But I never applied for the JREF challenge or had it tested by anyone, so you'll have to trust that I'm telling the truth as much as I trust you are telling the truth.

Funny how that works.

Byeee
 
You, would not have to trust me, but you see Randi has one clause to keep his cause. If it were not for that clause, it would be worth an attempt because in the preliminary test he would see that I am not lieing. Why he put this particular cluase in there is reasonalbe, but at the same time there is something he does not understand that negates the potential of such an occurance from happening in those conditions. Maybe he does understand such a thing and purposely has the clause in there because it does not matter to him or not. I am not judging I do not know. If the truth was really sought, he would bend this one rule, I would explain the situation and then who knows. You see the manner of the method which I would use for statistical probability has not been done before to my knowlege, infact, an idea has hit me and I may even be able to achieve this at a local college. I have thought about this before and could do it there with out having to go through your crap. I wouldn't get the million, but so what, the truth is more important. Besides I would not trust that you are already not building a secret case of potential statistics behind the scene and maybe you already have had some results beyond statistical probability and are looking to get a complete sample of the possibilities to further your own cause. This is also a possibility.
 
TENYEARS...

You're not a "loony toon kookball", by any chance...are you...???

Because we sure could do with a new one 'round these parts...

DB
 
TENYEARS, your story sounds like many people who say after a major event that they predicted it. You may be the most truthful person in the world and never tell a lie, but you have also offered no positive evidence that you even made any predictions at all. You have just told us a story about something, and it is extremely vague at that. This is called "anecdotal" evidence, which makes it even more unlikely that anyone will even believe it let alone accept it.

And such vague anecdotal evidence is not good enough to apply for the preliminary JREF testing, let alone the main challenge itself.

We have told you to read the challenge documentation carefully, and one of the necessary requirements of the testing is that the challenger has to be very specific about what they can (and can't) do, and what constitutes success and failure. Without this it is impossible to measure anything at all.

So once again, if you think you have one of these "visions", you MUST write them down and be VERY specific about what they are about - names, dates, places, incidents, whatever they refer to. Then you must make sure that this evidence is properly dated and stored somewhere that is not likely to allow tampering - I suggest that you find the nearest skeptic and ask them to hold onto it! And then, if and when your vision comes true, or if the time passes and nothing happens, everyone will all be able to see if you have been accurate or not.

Just for your own education, there have been many, many people who have had premonitions and made predictions about future events. But when you look back at their predictions it became very clear that their success rate and accuracy was woeful. Anyone can make vague predictions - I predict here and now that I will die some time in the future - but if I don't know exactly when then I'm hardly very accurate, am I!
 
I do not belive they are real you bone heads, I know they are real. Use your brains instead of jumping on bandwagons and you will know it for yourself without someone elses words or experiences.
 

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