A Universal Flood

[Marquis de Carabas]

Not so fast:

Gen 7:13-14


Gen 7:21-22

Creeping things obviously refers to snakes, lizards, and talk show hosts.

 

[Pahansiri]

Creeping things obviously refers to snakes, lizards, and talk show hosts.

NOT

 

[Scot C. Trypal]

Creeping things obviously refers to snakes, lizards, and talk show hosts.

Please, leave Oprah and Springer out of this.

Besides, insects are (arguably?) made of flesh and are part of “all that was in the dry land”, and in there "nostrils was the breath of life" (Do insects have "nostrils"?).

On the other hand, I can see your point is backed by a bit of science; an insect does weigh less than a duck.

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[bluess]

Please, leave Oprah and Springer out of this.

Besides, insects are (arguably?) made of flesh and are part of “all that was in the dry land”, and in there "nostrils was the breath of life" (Do insects have "nostrils"?).

On the other hand, I can see your point is backed by a bit of science; an insect does weight less than a duck.

Does it therefore weigh less than a witch?

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Please, leave Oprah and Springer out of this.

Besides, insects are (arguably?) made of flesh and are part of “all that was in the dry land”, and in there "nostrils was the breath of life" (Do insects have "nostrils"?).

Insects weren't "in the dry land." Before the Flood, they lived in floating sky castles. It was in these very castles, incidentally, that God kept all the water before the Flood.

 

[Darat]

Does it therefore weigh less than a witch?

If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.

 

[Psiload]

And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

Dry land is a myth.

 

[bluess]

Dry land is a myth.

You weren't in Kansas in the '70s, obviously.

 

[Iacchus]

You weren't in Kansas in the '70s, obviously.

Dust in the wind dude!

 

[c4ts]

Re: Re: A Universal Flood

I assume you mean "global" flood, not "universal"? A universal flood could not happen for several reasons that I can think of off the top of my head, but lack of that much water is one.
Aside from Marquis de Carabas's point about the Biblical dimensions not allowing room for two of every animal, there is also the consideration of fact of transportating animals from the great distances from parts of the planet that were, by all evidence, unknown to the people of Noah's time and location.

There is also the problem that a single male-female pair is insufficent for sustaining a species. Especially given that many animals are carnivors and the selection of prey would be limited to those animals in the Ark.

Also, did the bible say anything about Noah putting every species of plant on board? They too would have drowned in the flood.

 

[bluess]

Re: Re: Re: A Universal Flood

Also, did the bible say anything about Noah putting every species of plant on board? They too would have drowned in the flood.

[Marquis de Carabas mode] No, the plants (roots and all) were encased in a miraculous substance which rendered this task unnecessary. Said substance dried up with the rain.
[/Marquis de Carbas mode]

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Re: Re: Re: Re: A Universal Flood

[Marquis de Carabas mode] No, the plants (roots and all) were encased in a miraculous substance which rendered this task unnecessary. Said substance dried up with the rain.
[/Marquis de Carbas mode]

If e'er I find myself out of a job, I'm going to set myself up as a Flood apologist.

 

[bluess]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A Universal Flood

If e'er I find myself out of a job, I'm going to set myself up as a Flood apologist.

But who will feed the cat?

 

[Odin]

And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth [was] an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. Gen 8:11

So the plants survived!

Originally posted by bluess
[Marquis de Carabas mode] No, the plants (roots and all) were encased in a miraculous substance which rendered this task unnecessary. Said substance dried up with the rain.
[/Marquis de Carbas mode]

Pity the animals all had to drown...

 

[bluess]

SNIP...

Pity the animals all had to drown...

Silly - Noah saved 'em all. And if we analyzed their genetic data, we'd see every single one of them has the same genetic forebears. As should we...oops.

Oh, sorry, he didn't save the unicorns. They were laughing and splashing as the rain came down.

 

[Scot C. Trypal]

Does it therefore weigh less than a witch?

If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.

I’m glad some here aren’t completely ignorant of science, particularly regarding this topic.

Now, Marquis de Carabas, you are up in the night. Floating sky castles!? That’s clearly ridiculous and almost unworthy of debate.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

I’m glad some here aren’t completely ignorant of science, particularly regarding this topic.

Now, Marquis de Carabas, you are up in the night. Floating sky castles!? That’s clearly ridiculous and almost unworthy of debate.

Ah, but only "almost." Now, can you prove there were no floating sky castles? Didn't think so. Score one for God! Whoohoo!

 

[Darat]

Just to wrestle the thread back to being a bit less frivolous so it doesn’t end up in humour...

For some reason either the flood didn’t kill the trees or olive trees can grow bloody quick:

8 Then he sent out the dove, to see if the waters had receded from the surface of the earth.
9 But she did not find a place for the sole of her foot, so she returned to him in the ark, for the waters were over the whole surface of the earth. And he reached out his hand, and he took her, and he brought her back to himself in the ark.
10 And he waited seven more days and he again sent out the dove from the ark.
11 When the dove returned to him in the evening, see!, a freshly-picked olive leaf in her beak! Then Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth.


(Oh and whatever you do don't ask about the raven.)

 

[Beleth]

My favorite Flood theory is the one that says that the shoreline between present-day Djibouti and Yemen eroded enough to turn the Red Valley into... well, what it is today.

 

[c4ts]

Re: Re: Re: Re: A Universal Flood

[Marquis de Carabas mode] No, the plants (roots and all) were encased in a miraculous substance which rendered this task unnecessary. Said substance dried up with the rain.
[/Marquis de Carbas mode]

God had that stuff lying around and he made Noah build a boat and fill it with animals anyway? What a jerk!