Never before has 1,3dimethylpropane been found in office fires before ,even ones which include computers .
Saying they were from computers was speculation .
DIPHENYL!! THE MOLECULE IS 1,3-DI
PHENYLPROPANE!! THE MOLECULE
YOU'RE MISCITING IS CALLED
PENTANE!!!!
Jesus Pete, do you even
read before you post??
And no, saying they were from computers is the logical
conclusion given that such a molecule is an element expected in the combustion of plastic!!
'weve never observed it in any sampling weve ever done ' eric swartz epa
also note the molecule was in such large quantities.more than you would expect than plastic or computers.
Wrong! It was in such large quantities
because of the fires, and the sheer amount of plastics that burned. The WTC fires were among the largest in
history. Acres wide and stories tall!
And of couse the statement says that the EPA never observed it in any sampling they've ever done.
They weren't talking about sampling a bunch of post-fire environments, they were talking about a comparison to normal pollution levels! Swartz was comparing the levels measured after the towers collapse with
normal background levels! He was talking about
pollution monitoring, not a study of environmental conditions after different office fires!! It's
dumb to talk about Ground Zero levels in comparison with other office fires because
no one's made that comparison! The sources Jones picks out most certainly do not! Swartz compares Ground Zero after the collapse and fires with pollutant levels
in the absence of the towers fires:
EPA said:
In addition, the compound 1,3-diphenyl propane [1',1'-(1,3-propanediyl)bis-benzene] is found in significant concentrations. This species has not previously been reported from ambient sampling.
http://cfpub.epa.gov/si/si_public_record_Report.cfm?dirEntryID=62021
"Ambient sampling".
NOT comparative samples from other office fires! Even
Jones realizes this, because he
calls for such a study to be done. He hasn't done one himself. No one has. But yet he handwaves past the point about comparitive levels anyway, and only the foolishly dedicated buy into his argument!
the temperature of nano thermites is the same as other thermite.Its the same chemical chemical reaction !
What they are refering to is the temperature transition phase.
What
you are referring to is irrelevant. As was noted so many times before
in this very thread, there is zero evidence of thermite use left on the recovered steel, there is zero evidence of molten steel in the form of recovered hardened pools of it, and the eutectic erosion found would
negate the possibility of thermite use because such a mix would be
destroyed by a thermite reaction.
As for proof of the government using the exact type of thermite your insane ,you want them to tell the world they use the same thermite as the one found in the towers.
Its well known that advances in military technology including explosives arent realesed to the public FOR around 20 years
THE SIMPLE REASON THAT ENEMIES CAN LEARN FROM THERE NEW DEVELOPMENTS
That is sheer nonesense built up from zero supporting evidence. "Using the exact type of thermite"?? Huh? Everyone's arguing that the
melting is missing. Regardless of the composition, thermite melts steel.
There was no melting present.
We can only theorize how the thermite was placed and detonated.
That's called "speculation". The key reason your use of the word "theorize" is wrong is because you do not have the evidence to elevate what you're doing to that level. Even "speculation" is diplomatic; a less generous soul would call your post "bulls***ing".
But what do you expect the government to leave cutter charges and det core knowingly for people to find.
No, we'd expect evidence of whatever was used to be left over. Which is the whole point. You're retailing information about thermite, but the problem is that all your "evidence" of its use is bunk. The presence of 1,3-DPP (di
PHENYLpropane) is
expected. And your argument about quantity contraindicating the link to plastics is empty. That is the
only source, because thermite was not present!
You must think the shadow government spooks are dumb like the normal government who messes everything up.
They obviously would have tested these cutter charges in the desert on some buildings for 'military purposes' untill they could find a way to leave ''no trace''
There is no demonstration of superior intelligence in presenting specuous arguments with no evidence as proof that the government did indeed commit such a crime.
And leaving "no trace": What?? I thought your whole argument was that the chemical signature was one such trace. Besides which, how can thermite not leave any traces
of melting? Mind explaining how
that's possible?
One theory is that the nano thermite was painted or sprayed like a foam, when they recently re did the fireproofing.
Now you're reaching. If thermite covered the entire lengths of the steel supports, it wouldn't have simply separated into 30 foot long pieces like it did, it would've fallen apart into all sorts of sizes.
And besides, where are the hardened pools of iron? That's still missing, no matter what contortion you make to argue thermite.
Furthermore, how in God's name would that amount of thermite burning
not be visible prior to the collapse?
This wouldnt leave any evidence.
Neither would an absence of thermite to begin with. Start cutting with Occam here.
Steven jones has found semi reacted and unreacted paint which has the same chemical composition for thermite .And guess what when a laser was pointed at it it exploded violently much better than normal thermite did.
Steven Jones did no such laser experiment. And given the fact that the facade of the Towers was aluminum, given that any steel rusts, and given that the majority components of thermite is aluminum and a metal oxide, how could he have
missed finding the "same chemical composition for thermite"?? Want to look at my previous posts about finding water in the ocean?
I know what your all going to say but guess what ,Paint manufacturers dont make Explosive paint
No. I'm going to say that there's no molten steel to validate Jones's empty claim of thermite use.
That proves nothing.
Not only did your whole post not help your argument any, it proves that you simply don't know what you're talking about. If thermite was truly reacting along the lenghts of the steel, why was this not noted on the recovered steel? You completely ignore the issue I've brought up more than once: Any chemical analysis in the absence of gross physical evidence of it's use is worthless - and I
don't see how the government could experiment until they discovered thermite that melts without leaving signs of melting
.
This topic is dead. All your appeals to the contrary get nowhere. Everything you point out is either completely made up or is an expected effect from the towers collapse. You've not brought up a single compelling argument, and on top of that, you've not brought up anything
new either.
And you can't even identify the molecule properly!! Lesson: Here's "1,3-dimethylpropane", otherwise known as "pentane":
And here's the molecule Jones talked about - 1,3-di
phenylpropane:
Get at least
one thing right for once.
