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Split Thread A second impeachment

The Atheist said:
Apart from this correct response...

... I've been a member of Labour/Socialist movements for 43 years.

So far, no rich person has ever done anything worth a damn for the poor.

Also, the 99% isn't the point of concern - it's the 40-50% on the bottom - the 49% above the 50% line need very little help.
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This absolutely NOT NOT NOT TRUE.

I can point you to Billionaires giving away all their money.
 
JoeMorgue said:
What does any of this have to do with impeaching Trump?
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Some clowns seemed to think I'm some kind of right-wing person supporting the non-impeachment of Trump, so I'm just setting the facts out.

JoeMorgue said:
I wish the "Screw it all I don't want anything to get better because so my of my self-identity is defined by nay-saying and doom-glooming " sub-groups of both parties would **** off at the highest possible speed in the nearest convienant direction.
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Abject reading fail.

I set out precisely why I think the healing of America would be best served by not impeaching Trump.
 
acbytesla said:
This absolutely NOT NOT NOT TRUE.

I can point you to Billionaires giving away all their money.
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My mistake - I was referring to politicians. I thought the context provided that point. I've argued extensively against Bill Gates haters on that very point so many times I overlook it.
 
The Atheist said:
Well said.

For the record, my major dislike of Pelosi is down to distaste of her among American hard-left Socialists and Progressives I know. The fact that she claims to be devoutly religious doesn't make me like her much either.

The US politician I admire by far the most is AOC. I just hope she doesn't get tainted with lies and ties to Wall St like Nancy has.
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Sure seems like you just flipped your position. You earlier suggested that Republicans resented Pelosi because she is wealthy and pushes Socialism.
 
turingtest said:
I don't think the highlighted is correct.

So it seems that disqualification must follow conviction, it can't be independent of it. (And I'll just re-iterate my point that that disqualification would be, to me, the best reason for pursuing it)
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You are correct. I was reading an article on the Secretary of War that was impeached. The article was actually about whether you can impeach someone if they've already resigned. I must have misread the part about you MUST convict first before you can disqualify.
 
The Atheist said:
I set out precisely why I think the healing of America would be best served by not impeaching Trump.
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I dunno, the gaping wound in democracy and the rule of law caused by Trump and the insurrection will not be best served by not impeaching him. In fact, the only way to help heal that wound is to hold him accountable.
 
Way to go Libitards its good to see them get refocused on what's important!
 
dudalb said:
Trump just announced if he is impeached a second time, Rudy Giuliane will be his attonrey.
Now I really hope it happens just for the entertainment value.
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Perhaps he’s setting up a mistrial defence based on incompetent legal representation?
 
acbytesla said:
Sure seems like you just flipped your position. You earlier suggested that Republicans resented Pelosi because she is wealthy and pushes Socialism.
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No, I made it plain that was my opinion - I dislike her because she's a shocking example of Champagne Socialism, cosying up to Wall Street while pretending to care about the bottom 40%.

Republicans hate her because they hate all Democrats.

Paul2 said:
I dunno, the gaping wound in democracy and the rule of law caused by Trump and the insurrection will not be best served by not impeaching him. In fact, the only way to help heal that wound is to hold him accountable.
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Then let the Justice Department prosecute him and try him in front of a judge he appointed.

Cervelo said:
Way to go Libitards its good to see them get refocused on what's important!
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I dunno whether that's a troll, sarcasm or real, but it encapsulates the point nicely.

Trump is no longer of any importance, and the best way to cast him adrift is to ignore the hell out of him.

Biden has it dead right - concentrate on Covid, economic recovery, unemployment; things that do matter.
 
The Atheist said:
No, I made it plain that was my opinion - I dislike her because she's a shocking example of Champagne Socialism, cosying up to Wall Street while pretending to care about the bottom 40%.

Republicans hate her because they hate all Democrats.



Then let the Justice Department prosecute him and try him in front of a judge he appointed.



I dunno whether that's a troll, sarcasm or real, but it encapsulates the point nicely.

Trump is no longer of any importance, and the best way to cast him adrift is to ignore the hell out of him.
Biden has it dead right - concentrate on Covid, economic recovery, unemployment; things that do matter.
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That has to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard today.
 
The Atheist said:
No, I made it plain that was my opinion - I dislike her because she's a shocking example of Champagne Socialism, cosying up to Wall Street while pretending to care about the bottom 40%.

Republicans hate her because they hate all Democrats.
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It wasn't plain at all, but okay.
 
The Atheist said:
Then let the Justice Department prosecute him and try him in front of a judge he appointed.
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I'm not opposed to doing that, but in addition to impeachment, as there are different purposes to impeachment compared to criminal trials.
 
The Atheist said:
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Trump is no longer of any importance, and the best way to cast him adrift is to ignore the hell out of him.
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slyjoe said:
That has to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard today.
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I agree with Joe. Part of the purpose of impeachment is to prevent him from ever running again. Another reason is accountability. He needs to be made an example of. This should be a Brooklyn stomp, a coup de grace. He and what he stands for must be destroyed.

There is also a political reason. To force Republicans to turn their back on Trumpism. It's likely to cause a fissure in the GOP, but it is necessary.
 
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