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subgenius said:
That poor police chief that everyone in that community loved was trapped inside the matriarchal divorce industry and it might have drove him to kill...we just don't know yet. You know, cause & effect.
I find it hard to believe that no external pressures caused the chief to kill. There simply had to be an external problem that made the chief think that he had no hope in this world, and that is why he whipped out his Glock and started gunning his wife down. Good men don't kill unless extremist assaults on them push them into it. It is in the matriarchal system of totalitarianism to not leave men a way out. The chief appeared to be a desperate man, whatever was happening to him. I hope after the investigation is done the public will get to know the systemic problem in this case--not that I already haven't drawn some conclusions--but just for verification.
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subgenius said:
What drove that good man and a protector of the community to kill?
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let me get this straight...all men who are violent are driven to it by women. All women who are violent are not driven to it by men, they are just inherently violent??? Is that a fair summation of the fantasy?Jedi Knight said:
Jeffrey Dahmer the cannibal
Ed Gein the silence of the lambs inspirer
Fritz Haarmann the german monster
Henry Lee Lucas & Ottis Toole the killer lovers
Ted Bundy the nice seductor
Pedro Lopez the crazy killing machine
Arthur Shawcross the french monster
Charles Manson killer guru
H.H Holmes the torture doctor
Andrei Chikatilo the russian kids lover
Jack the ripper the legendary london killer
Peter Kurten the dusseldorf monster
John Wayne Gacy the killer clown
Gilles De Rais the original bluebeard
Vlad the impaler, aka Dracula
Albert Fish the ghoul
Edmund Kemper the co-ed killer
David Berkowitz the son of Sam
Richard Ramirez the night stalker
Wayne Williams the atlanta kids murderer
Richard Chase the vampire of Sacramento
David Carpenter the trailside killer
Nicolas Claux the vampire of Paris
All Nice guys, driven to kill by Matriarchal Totalitarianism!
"I hope after the investigation is done the public will get to know the systemic problem in this case--not that I already haven't drawn some conclusions--but just for verification."
(Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind.
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Let's see, start with a conclusion, ignore any facts that conflict with it....there's a name for that...people help me out here....I'm having a senior moment...
Although the benighted one claims that his "theory" does not justify violence against women, "just cause and effect", obviously he gives any man a free pass to kill with the iron clad excuse that the devil made me do it.
They obviously can't be convicted because they were forced to kill, and they certainly shouldn't be punished. So that certainly would encourage anyone on the edge to go over it.
This matriarchal whatchamacallit sure is powerful. So many big strong men are overcome by it. Must be a really, really big strong he-man to resist going berserk and killing them all. But the pressure must be enormous.
(Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind.
) Let's see, start with a conclusion, ignore any facts that conflict with it....there's a name for that...people help me out here....I'm having a senior moment...
Although the benighted one claims that his "theory" does not justify violence against women, "just cause and effect", obviously he gives any man a free pass to kill with the iron clad excuse that the devil made me do it.
They obviously can't be convicted because they were forced to kill, and they certainly shouldn't be punished. So that certainly would encourage anyone on the edge to go over it.
This matriarchal whatchamacallit sure is powerful. So many big strong men are overcome by it. Must be a really, really big strong he-man to resist going berserk and killing them all. But the pressure must be enormous.
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Can you use this logic in others areas of the world I wonder? For some strange reason the Middle East, springs to mind but I can't think why.
Well done JK however for pointing out that outside pressures can drive people to do bad things - like killing. As you said so appositely put it 'You know, cause & effect.' Or isn't it right to use that logic elsewhere in the world? Hmmmm.
An estimated 5.3 million U.S. women over the age of 17 are victimized every year, leaving nearly 2 million of them injured, with more than 550,000 of them requiring medical attention, according to the study, released in conjunction with a CDC Injury Center national conference called "Safety in Numbers."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/intimate_violence030428.html
The benighted one has no empathy for them, just sympathy for the perpetrators. How pathetic and dangerous.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/intimate_violence030428.html
The benighted one has no empathy for them, just sympathy for the perpetrators. How pathetic and dangerous.
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subgenius said:"I hope after the investigation is done the public will get to know the systemic problem in this case--not that I already haven't drawn some conclusions--but just for verification."
(Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind.
Let's see, start with a conclusion, ignore any facts that conflict with it....there's a name for that...people help me out here....I'm having a senior moment...
Although the benighted one claims that his "theory" does not justify violence against women, "just cause and effect", obviously he gives any man a free pass to kill with the iron clad excuse that the devil made me do it.
They obviously can't be convicted because they were forced to kill, and they certainly shouldn't be punished. So that certainly would encourage anyone on the edge to go over it.
This matriarchal whatchamacallit sure is powerful. So many big strong men are overcome by it. Must be a really, really big strong he-man to resist going berserk and killing them all. But the pressure must be enormous.
More facts have come out about the police chief case. They all fall in line with matriarchal totalitarianism too. The police chief's wife, probably at the behest of her attorney to give her sympathy and leverage in her divorce case, made "claims" in her divorce case against her husband that she had to know would destroy the man's career, factual or not.
Now, if the police chief was "beating" her, or "drew a gun on her", why didn't she call 911? If the police chief was so "abusive", why did her "claims" come out in the divorce only?
I will tell you what I think happened and I am probably right. I am thinking that the police chief's wife didn't want to be married anymore and she initiated a no-fault divorce against her husband and added herself to the ranks of women that initiate divorces in this country (almost 90% of all divorces are initiated by women). Since any worthless chick can go apply for a no-fault divorce, she didn't need to make up lies about her husband but did it out of spite. She declared war on the police chief. In war, there are times that people might die, depending on the circumstances. So it became a situation where the "wife" perhaps just didn't want to end the relationship, but wanted to destroy her husband and be a very war-like person, not considering that her husband was also war-like. That is my opinion of it. She could have done the no-fault thing and moved on, but no, she had to get him.
It is an industry, a very profitable industry where "claims" can be huge payoffs and the competition to be the "winner" must try to destroy the other side.
So all the police chief's wife had to do was go in there and say: "gosh, abuse this and abuse that" and she automatically gets sympathy from the matriarchal divorce industry, clearly a tool for women to clean up when they want to loot their husbands and leave them high and dry.
So not only did the husband lose his marriage, he now had to deal with public records the matriarchal terror media took as "facts" and published, humiliating him.
Was the husband abusing his wife? Police reports could prove that, but gosh, the media hasn't reported any. Maybe that "abuse" arose when the divorce industry thought it needed that abuse to win for the wife. Not that it really matters now, huh.
The point is this--we need tort reform. We need divorce cases sealed until the "claims" made in them can be backed up with "facts". Somewhere along the way facts became secondary to cleaning up. The dishonest media that found out about the police chief's divorce naturally was going to print the dirt on him, especially if the police chief had political opponents which he probably most certainly did. It didn't matter if the dirt was true or not. It just "sounded" cool and fashionable to print it.
All that police chief did his whole life was be a cop trying to protect the community. But his divorce became something more than that--it became something that sought to completely embarass him and destroy him personally and publicly just so the matriarchal totalitarian system could let his wife win. It is a system where 90% of all married women file for divorces no-fault. It is a system where "claims" can be printed in the newspaper and used against leaders in the community like the police chief to completely destroy him.
It is time for that system to be completely scrapped, thrown into the garbage can and replaced with a system of real justice, or at least something that appears to have a particle of justice. Men have no such justice now.
I am convinced that my opinion above is what drove that humble police chief to gun his wife down in the shopping mall parking lot. What did that poor guy have left? He lost his marraige and now his wife was seeding the destruction of his life-long career. It was an unwarranted attack on his whole person, just to get his wife a better position publicly and privately in court, the way the matriarchal terror apparatus in the United States is specifically designed to work.
The only thing dangerous is the very system that drove that loyal police chief to kill--it was cause/effect. When you speak of danger sub-man, that is the danger--the matriarchal totalitarianism that drives men to kill out of pure desperation. When police chiefs kill, there is obviously a huge problem in this country.
Divorce is for people separating from marriage, not driving them to kill. It is a tool for people to start over, to break a relationship, not permanently destroy one person so the other person and their attorney gets a few more percentage points in the looting that follows. All the divorce proceedings in the police chief's case did was create hostility and conflict, where divorce is supposed to be conflict resolution. America needs to cleanse itself of bad law so that men are not driven to do it themselves, like the police chief did. I prefer tort reform, but obviously others seem to enjoy ignoring the problem and then whine when police chiefs gun their wives down in parking lots, thinking with delusion that there is no cause-effect relationship to these acts of violence.
JK
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Why didn't the wife of a police cheif call the police and say she was being abused? Very funny. You aren't really this stupid are you?
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subgenius said:
Gosh, that is all you have to say? lol.
Hard to defend matriarchal terror, huh.
Sure he would be guilty of murder. I am not denying that for a second. This is not a discussion about murder because we all know there was "murder" and "suicide". Those are givens.
Tell me, sub-man, what is your opinion about what can be done to lessen the hostility in divorce cases? When did divorce go from a "conflict-resolution" industry to a "murder and destroy" industry?
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subgenius said:
That's a rhetorical question, right?
Why did the police chief really kill his wife? What drove that desperate man to kill?
JK
Hard to defend figments of people's imagination, so I don't bother.Jedi Knight said:
Divorces are hostile because of the nature of the action (So are landlord-tenant cases.), but not all of them are.
It was ever thus.
One way of lessening the hostility is to counter mis-information such as "matriarchal totalitarianism," so that people realize they have control and responsiblity for their actions.
Perhaps you will share your personal experiences with and victimization at the hands of "matriarchal totalitarianism" (going back to your earliest recollections), and how you have gotten the strength to resist killing the evil ones. I hope you continue to personally avoid violence.
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P.S. (from your earlier post): "marraige"----remember castigating Tula for her spelling. Less of a holier than thou attitude is in order.
"He who is without sin....."(know the rest?)
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subgenius said:
I hope that you personally avoid violence too sub-man and get some medication for some of the mental deficiences I think you have, not that I am a shrink or anything. I am sort of thinking of some of the things that Randi said about people with brain-disorders and you are the first person on the forum I have encountered that I think has one. Just my opinion, not that it matters and I don't expect it to.
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subgenius said:
Answer the question, sub-man. Why did the police chief really kill his wife? Why didn't he kill her before the matriarchal terror apparatus got their claws into him?
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Jedi Knight said:
It is well documented that many men murder thier wives while they are in the process of divorce. Many men see the expectation that women are their property -a possession. Losing the wife in divorce is equalled to a loss of property. With it comes a feeling of impotence which is brought on by social expectation. It is not the sort of pressure that isn't there one minute and there the next like a bomb exploding. It builds up over time. The court case may simply have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Mr Manifesto said:
You are thinking of 1890's era male expectations. Men in this country have been taught lower expectations for decades. We are taught to have lower expectations in the women we engage with because they were taught by leftists to be marginal females.
So while I would like to agree with you, I really would, men know that the system is matriarchal and with the number of divorces today (a full 75% of all marriages end in divorce), if what you said was true there would be women gunned down by the tens of thousands every year. I think that many men, the majority, just suck it up and drive on after being terrorized. The increase in killings, in my opinion, is because of the increase in matriarchal terror. As the terror increases, it becomes harder for men like the police chief to cope with that terror and it makes them desperate men, dangerous men. That is why the chief gunned his wife down. I think the system drove him to kill, a cause-effect relationship.
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