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[Derek Johnson]

How come it didn't sound like a CD?

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

 

[Hokulele]

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

What would the visual differences be between a natural collapse and a controlled demolition?

 

[Derek Johnson]

What would the visual differences be between a natural collapse and a controlled demolition?

Natural collapse?

Natural?

What is that?

 

[jhunter1163]

Natural collapse?

Natural?

What is that?

The kind of collapse that would result from, say, unfought fires raging in an office building all day.

 

[cyclonic]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

What do you call someone who molests columns?
how do they do it?

 

[Bell]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

The keywords here are LOOKED LIKE.

Then again, I guess some hydraulic equipment that "molested" the columns or whatnot is more plausible in bringing down the building, than is damage and fire

But let this not stop you from explaining us how the collapse should have looked like if it was not a CD?

 

[MRC_Hans]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

Now you must make up your mind: Can compromizing a limited number of central structural members trigger global, progressive collapse, or can it not?

If your answer is no, then do you claim that dozens of hydraulic jacks were installed and operated on every floor of the building(s), to make them/it totally collapse?

If you answer yes, then: Well, in theory, a few well-placed hydraulic jacks might have initiated the collapse, but then so could, obviously, fires and other damage. But of course, secretly installing even a few hydraulic jacks in a busy office building, and operating them while the world was looking on would be a tad difficult. I mean, we are not talking little car jacks here; we are talking big bulky ones, with a large diesel to supply them with pressure, and thick black pipes and hoses laid out all over. This is not something you sneak in in a back-pack.

Hans

 

[Oystein]

...of course, secretly installing even a few hydraulic jacks in a busy office building, and operating them while the world was looking on would be a tad difficult...

Derek, how would you operate hydraulic jacks in a building that had uncontrolled fires on at least 10 floors for many hours? Would the jacks even survive?

 

[MRC_Hans]

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

Let's see:

CD: Charges (or hydraulics ) installed all over.
WT7: Nope.

CD: Series of loud explosions (or big noisy hydraulic pumps).
WT7: Nope.

CD: No other apparant reason for collapse.
WT7: Damage from falling debris and extensive fires raging for hours.

CD: Building collapses.
WT7: Check!

.... No, I don't really think WT7 looked convincingly like a CD.

Hans

 

[Juniversal]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

Yes, the collums were "molested" by hours and hours of unabaited fires and structural damage from the twin towers flying debris.

 

[T.A.M.]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

Bolts and welds, lots of each, held that building up. Either they went, or the columns were molested. The former is harder to do.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

Your frame of reference is limited to CDs. Of course, if the only method of skyscraper collapse you have to reference for comparison is CD, then you will say it looks like CD.

In strict sense of the word, not taking into account the collapse of the penthouse, I would agree that it "Looked" similar to a building that collapses from controlled demolition.

Your avoidance of all the other ways it DID NOT FIT with a controlled demolition is noted.

TAM

 

[apathoid]

So it must bang? Hydraulics don't bang.

A verniage technique truther! I knew this day would come! Congrats on being the smartest truther to date, Derek. But do you realize how close you are to the "Official Story" with this theory?

Something tells me your fellow truthers are pretty well married to their thermite, nano-thermite, thermate, RDX, C4, Space Beams, Mini-nukes, Upward Fusion Flashlight Beams of Destruction, etc theories or some weird combination of these. Good luck trying to convince them otherwise.

You must agree, WTC 7, it looked like a CD, if not, how not?

Yeah, so? And some people reported the collapses sounding like trains. Are you familiar with the concept of a simile? Lots of things resemble other completely different things; you agree? You tell us what a total collapse of a 47 story building should look like.

 

[apathoid]

In response to the OP.....since you choose to live in your own private fantasy world(actually it sounds like you chose to join Alex Jones in his world of make believe), can't you at least make it a pleasant one? Sheesh. Turn off your computer. Go outside. Get a life.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

9/11 started two wars. If there was any reason at all for it that's it. Most Americans don't believe in these wars but they are still going on strong. I never thought the Pentagon would be able to get away with another Vietnam. I've been proven wrong. We're just lucky we're not in Iran too. But give it time.

The attack on the Cole was an act of war. The attacks on the embassies in Africa were an act of war. We've been at war for a long time while ignoring it. Further, 9/11 was shown not to be instigated by Iraq before the (Iraq) war started. But, perhaps you have some "new" evidence to support your thesis. We're waiting.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Oystein,
YouI am unable to acknowledge any evidence, as much as a religious fanatic can acknowledge any logic regarding his religion. This is called paradigm formation. No amount of evidence can be presented because you will not be receptive to any.

Fixed that for you!

 

[dafydd]

Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction. The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious. No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly. A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time. In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments. No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either. People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance. As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you. You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution… I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming. How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?

Was that supposed to mean something? Any chance of a translation into English?

 

[Sabrina]

Dafydd, I find my stock response best when confronted with responses like the one you quoted.

It goes: ws;dr

Or, translated: word salad; didn't read.

 

[tsig]

WTC 7 looked like a CD indeed.

No, it didn't. I've never seen a CD spew debris all over the surrounding buildings and damage them so much that one fell and others had to be demolished.

If that was a CD it was the worst one ever.