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TK0001 there is more than poor thinking to see building collapses in the manner of the wtcs on 9/11 and believe that grasping at somekind of science, because of some emotional disorder, is going to rationalize the dreaded obvious

Pardon, your stupidity is showing. Maybe you should zip up?
 
No i dont care how a foreign country audits its national bank, but then HR1207 is not about foreign countries auditing its national banks, it is about secret meetings in with foreign central banks which eventually leads to half a trillion dollars going from the federal reserve to other foreign central banks. Half a trillion dollars and your representative has little to say about it. This is essentially what you are supporting.

Well, since the Federal Reserve is the national bank of a foreign country, I suspect that my MP is quite justified in having little to say about it. I'd be enormously entertained to see your explanation of how I personally am supporting it, of course.

Dave
 
Well, since the Federal Reserve is the national bank of a foreign country, I suspect that my MP is quite justified in having little to say about it. I'd be enormously entertained to see your explanation of how I personally am supporting it, of course.

Dave
It's all connected, man! There are layers within layers! It's all hidden (unless you've taken the exact combination of hallucinogenics that I have)!

Trust no one! Not even me!
 
9/11 was an inside job by the shadow government. The purpose was to see exactly how people will react to an obvious controlled demolition, and how they can do it again. They effectively need to control the emotions of the people to cause wars and pass legislations. They also wanted to see how they can manipulate a specific group of people who have certain affinities, and certain paradigms.
I believe that this could be use as a thesis for a psychology doctorate, the group dynamics and reality distortion techniques. We can look at historical events such as the sinking of the Lusitania and how people were emotionally affected by this. anyone here a psychology major?
You posted a delusion; why do you post lies and delusions about 911?
 
Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction. The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious. No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly. A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time. In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments. No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either. People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance. As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you. You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution… I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming. How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?
 
Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction. The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious. No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly. A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time. In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments. No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either. People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance. As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you. You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution… I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming. How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?

Cripes, this is like reading Dr. Bronner's surly twin brother.
 
Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction.


Whose hypothesis is that? Debunkers' or truthers'? Do you maybe have a link where this hypothesis is put forward, with at least some attempt of "scientific" backup?


The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious. No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly.

Lord Kelvin, in hs time revered as one of, if not THE, greatest scientists of his time, actually believed nothing that is denser than air could sustain flight. I don't recall what is take on birds was... Anyway, it was actually science and engineering that convinced the world of the rather unobvoius: That metal-things with many tons of weight could fly 35000 feet high and cross oceans.


A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time. In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments. No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either.

The US of A surely ain't my team, ya know... Some folks over here in Europe were mightily mad at Dubya for abusing 9/11 to stir up a silly war. We have much incentive to believe that the dickheads like Bush, Cheney, Rummy were doing many more evil things than already accepted. Yet, reason prevails.

People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance.

Could fling that right back at you.

As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you. You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution… I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming. How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?

No, we do not believe all that crap. We are not deluded. We are also not more easily convinced just because delusions are printed in fancy fonts!
 
Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction. The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious. No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly. A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time. In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments. No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either. People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance. As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you. You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution… I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming. How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?

ws;dr
 
Beachnut have you read any of the “debunker’s” “science”…how about the pile load driver hypotheses: drop a piece of metal from 1000 ft by the time it reaches the ground it would initiate a fusion reaction.
Your statement is delusional; how do you do this with such ease? What does your delusional statement mean? lol, you say 911 is an inside job and offer idiotic delusional statements as your support, then you repeat.

The truth of the matter is that no amount of science is going to disprove the obvious.
LOL, you get more delusional with each sentence; are you trying to be this silly?

No amount of science is going to explain to me why a bird cannot fly.
Birds can fly because they have wings that produce lift, science verifies that. It has been an observed fact for thousands of years. I assume you and aerodynamics are not speaking, and the same with physics.

A lawyer can, but science has a more difficult time.
? LOL

In regards to 9/11 it is not about science… it is about people’s attachments.
Why try to get something right when you can rant more about science and spew lies?

No one wants to see their football-baseball-basketball team falter, and no ones to acknowledge that their country falters either.
? What are you ranting about now? I can't figure out how you make up your lies.

People want to see their ducks neatly in row, any deviation from this and they experience Cognitive Dissonance.
What? Your delusions are driven by what? Lack of knowledge or a perverse need to spew lies about 911?

As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you.
Yes, but it is confined to your mind.

You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians, they subvert the constitution…
Yes, in your mind.

I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming.
In your mind your own delusions are your evidence which you fail to produce in the real world. You have a list of zero evidence to support your delusions on 911.

How many times have you seen the mechanics of the national debt explained in television?
And this has what to do with 911?
 
9/11 was an inside job by the shadow government.

You have proof of this?and by proof, I mean the sort of evidence required to get a conviction in a court of law.
The purpose was to see exactly how people will react to an obvious controlled demolition, and how they can do it again.
You have proof of this? and by proof, I mean the sort of evidence required to get a conviction in a court of law.
They effectively need to control the emotions of the people to cause wars and pass legislations.
You have proof of this? and by proof, I mean the sort of evidence required to get a conviction in a court of law.
They also wanted to see how they can manipulate a specific group of people who have certain affinities, and certain paradigms.
You have proof of this? and by proof, I mean the sort of evidence required to get a conviction in a court of law.
I believe that this could be use as a thesis for a psychology doctorate, the group dynamics and reality distortion techniques. We can look at historical events such as the sinking of the Lusitania and how people were emotionally affected by this. anyone here a psychology major?

If the answer is no to all the above then its not a psychology major you need, its somebody with a Doctorate in Psychiatry and who is accepting new patients.:rolleyes:
 
As far as the shadow government is concern… you do believe there is one don’t you.

No, of course not. The whole idea in this day and age is absurd.
You do believe that there are very powerful people telling the president what to do, they own judges and politicians

Yes I do! They are known as the voters!

they subvert the constitution…

Bet you can't name one example of this actually happening.

I hope you believe this because the evidence is overwhelming.

Yet you fail time and time again to actually produce it. Why do you think this might be?
 
Anybody who thinks that what se7ensnakes has produced is "overwhelming" has no business investigating where he left his wallet, much less the "Shadow Government".
 
Quick question for the non-Americans: Does your shadow government have to run things past your legislators too or can they act independently?

Our shadow government sucks.

Silly fool! Our shadow government is the same as yours! It is disguised as Europe! Big Money! Globalization! The Rockefellers own Brussels! :jaw-dropp

Seriously, my local 9/11-truthers also try to convince me, that the European Central Bank is a private institution "just like" the Fed and run by shadow forces, that the Treaty of Lisbon does away with the german federal constitution (Grundgesetz) and re-introduces the death penalty, and that anyway, EU and NAFTA and World Bank and IMF are all essentially the same.

ETA: It sometimes appears as if, in their perception, the only truly anti-Europe party we have is by this token the only true democratic party: The neonazi NPD :(
 
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Quick question for the non-Americans: Does your shadow government have to run things past your legislators too or can they act independently?

Our shadow government sucks.

We have Queen Beatrix.

Nobody says "no" to Queen Beatrix.
 

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