Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[Scott Sommers]

Man, the base appears to be the only thing that is identical to the way it was cast in the 1960's, and the PhD thinks it is evidence of No Planer conspiracies.

There is no face palm big enough.

Get a grip on things, you no-educated traitor...you. That's the proof! Only a No-plane Truther expert can see what really happened. You and I can only guess. That's why we aren't qualified to say anything - even about something as obvious as whether 2 things look the same. I hope this has cleared up the confusion. You obviously need more drugs.

 

[Dash80]

AWESOME! I got it stuck in my head now!

 

[Jack by the hedge]

In the picture of the sphere's base in the OP, the rim appears curled and torn at the left side. It looks to me as if the debris which crashed down onto the sphere pushed it to one side and consequently that edge of the base curled under itself.

Sorry if that mundane, non-magical explanation spoils anyone's fun.

 

[swright777]

...
Not for one minute did I believe a plane crash theory. I'm proud of that.

I think this is not true. Look here.

No, it doesn't. If you paid close attention to my timeline, you'd understand. I will specify.

Day 0 - 9/11
Day 2 - Tracy arrives home and smells the smell
Day 3 - Tracy views Ground Zero for the first time, or actually just really whatever was visible above a ten foot fence, which wasn't much.
Day 100 - Tracy still smells the smell and swore that nobody would ever convince her that the smell was an ordinary fire
Year 3.5 - Tracy hears about no planesYear 4.5 - Tracy finds out about Judy Wood
Year 5 - Tracy decides in favor of no planesYear 8 - Tracy dumps TV video fakery in favor of 3D projected image
Year 8 - Tracy collects her first dust sample and decides it was metallic foam

What should be obvious is that I was on the case for years before I heard a darn thing about no planes or even considered the idea. Same with Judy Wood. In the early years, I was working without the benefit of Dr. Wood's wisdom.

 

[swright777]

Man, the base appears to be the only thing that is identical to the way it was cast in the 1960's, and the PhD thinks it is evidence of No Planer conspiracies.

There is no face palm big enough.

How about a third-party Andre the Giant facepalm?

 

[phunk]

In the picture of the sphere's base in the OP, the rim appears curled and torn at the left side. It looks to me as if the debris which crashed down onto the sphere pushed it to one side and consequently that edge of the base curled under itself.

Sorry if that mundane, non-magical explanation spoils anyone's fun.

It's sheet metal thin enough to be bent that way by hand. It's not hard to imagine a dozen ways it could have been bent in the collapse, when removing it from the rubble, when moving it, or when installing it in the park.

 

[phunk]

Have you looked into the Casimir effect? I can't tell by this post. It's new physics.

New physics? That was theorized and detected 64 years ago?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Any force applied in this direction ---> has an associated force <--- paired with it. This force would have destroyed any airplane upon impact with a steel building.

We can cut steel with water, you know...

 

[Wolrab]

AWESOME! I got it stuck in my head now!

Is it sticking out like a plane that hit a building?

 

[Dcdrac]

How a jet engine works

http://www.pilotfriend.com/aero_engines/aero_jet.htm

Not the propeller driven efforts from 70 years ago.......

 

[Legend]

the plain was also dust.

 

[Dave Rogers]

New physics? That was theorized and detected 64 years ago?

Well, she hasn't really figured out the implications of Newton's Third Law yet, so I imagine it'll take her a while to get round to the 1940s. I suppose that would explain why she's never heard of jets too.

Dave

 

[Scott Sommers]

It's sheet metal thin enough to be bent that way by hand. It's not hard to imagine a dozen ways it could have been bent in the collapse, when removing it from the rubble, when moving it, or when installing it in the park.

I don't understand this. The energy weapons, they did this. So where are the energy weapons in your answer? Are you a scientist? If there are no energy weapons, then how did it happen? A plane doesn't do this, so it had to be the energy weapons. I do not know how they did it or where the energy weapons are, but it had to be the energy weapons. And they are very simple. A child could aim it and another child could fire it. But you would need to be an adult to design and build it. So that's three people, and only 1 of them is an adult.

Do you see anything wrong with my logic? And I am not on drugs. So stop saying I am.

 

[twinstead]

I don't understand this. The energy weapons, they did this. So where are the energy weapons in your answer? Are you a scientist? If there are no energy weapons, then how did it happen? A plane doesn't do this, so it had to be the energy weapons. I do not know how they did it or where the energy weapons are, but it had to be the energy weapons. And they are very simple. A child could aim it and another child could fire it. But you would need to be an adult to design and build it. So that's three people, and only 1 of them is an adult.

Damn kids. We haven't even scratched the surface of children's involvement in this conspiracy!

 

[twinstead]

We can cut steel with water, you know...

But we can't cut water with steel, so there!

 

[alienentity]

What can they say?

I'm always slightly surprised when people treat no-planers somehow differently. The core claims may be more incredible, but the way they work - the obfuscation, the handwaving, the cherry-picking, the evasions, the lies - is exactly the same as the bulk of other truthers. I see no difference at all.

Bingo! In actual fact many garden-variety truthers are also no-planers, without fully realizing it..(self awareness is not a strong suit with truthers).
It is a common belief among truthers that there were no planes at the Pentagon or Shanksville. The handwaving and evasion IS precisely the same as with WTC no-planers. There really is NO substantive difference.

Dustification or Foamification of steel is technically no more crazy than claims of magic nanothermite, which somehow was supposed to bring down all the buildings without detection.
As Dr Foam pointed out, DEW weapons exist. So does nanothermite. It's equally ludicrous to believe that either one was used to bring the towers down - to anyone but a 9/11 Truther, that is.

 

[alienentity]

I am proud to say that after about 2-3 years of arguing with one on FB, who I also know IRL, he has finally realized its complete BS. It was a very gradual process, but it happened.

 

[rambaldi]

There is some scientific evidence of cognitive impairment due to longterm Cannabis abuse.

But wouldn't someone who is suffering from such impairment be al least sometimes right by accident?

 

[phiwum]

Right, so why didn't she just say she is "suspending judgement" instead of making herself look even more of an idiot?

It's a fairly natural way of saying one is suspending judgment, though it does lead to confusion sometimes.

In any case, the "error" is merely one of imprecise wording. There are surely many more reasons to criticize Woods than this.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

How do you know the "No Planers" really aren't just a bunch of your own fellow Government Truthbots trying to discredit the opposing side through methods of "cognitive infiltration"?

Most 9/11 Truthers say nothing because they realize Judy Woods most likely works for your side, not ours.

All the more reason to lay into them every chance you get, wouldn't you say?