Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[Resume]

I'm talking about things that almost nobody else is talking about.

There's a reason for that.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

In this thread also, you postulate an energy weapon. Where was the energy weapon when it conducted the attacks? Please point out anywhere on a map of the US where you think that it was located.

Bear in mind, you will have to ensure your location can see the area of what used to be the WTC, but without being blocked by anything else, natural landmarks or buildings.

 

[WTC Dust]

As usual, your in-line reply makes responses difficult.

First, let me note that your claim about magical holograms of airplanes doesn't complete the story. What about the apparent damage from the make-believe impacts?

Second, you claim to spend your time thinking about properties of materials, all the while pretending that magical weapons can turn steel to "foam". You should think hard enough to explain how that works.

Solids that have air pockets can be and usually are called "foam". I would think you'd be more shocked at the production of all this stuff than by me calling it a foam. On 9/10, there were two gigantic buildings standing there among other gigantic buildings. On 9/12, you couldn't say the same thing. What you saw was a lot of ... stuff ... spread all over lower Manhattan and some steel beams left over somewhat scattered near (but not on top of) the footprint of WTC 1 and WTC 2. I'm looking for an explanation. I'm not requesting that you revisit the official hijack conspiracy again, so don't.

Holographic airplanes is just a guess. I'm not wedded to the theory. Debunk at will, but you have to do a better job than asserting that we don't have the technology or that it would violate the laws of physics without specifying which ones. That is the level of debunking I've gotten so far.

I ask repeatedly for any clear evidence of a wake at 9:03AM, but the data seems tantalizingly out of reach in other posts somewhere mixed in with other photographs. As Jammonius says, do better. There was no obvious impact of any object with the south wall of WTC 2, and I say that the damage that was seen was consistent with an explosion of some sort, probably not due to any explosives.

 

[Oystein]

If you go to Battery Park on any day and examine The Sphere, you'll notice strange damage to it that is not expected from objects falling onto it.

You'll notice that many of the pieces of the bronze statue have curled up. Falling items can never cause bronze to curl up >360 degrees, as one of the post-damage images shows. Look at the base of the statue in the last pic. Nothing falling could have caused the base to curl up like it did. Energy weapons!

No, midgets with hammers!

 

[332nd]

So... the beams turned steel into dust but just warped the sphere?

 

[Dave Rogers]

No, midgets with hammers!

Which, of course, is entirely consistent with the competing "midgets with hacksaws" theory, because only a nitpicking bee-dunker would claim that hammers and saws aren't basically the same thing.

Dave

 

[Macgyver1968]

You should tell your cartoon perps to sit properly with their chairs on all legs, they might injure themselves. Safety in the workplace!

Yes! and also they should talk to the HR rep about getting some more ergonomic desks. Desks and monitors that high can cause neck strain and carpal tunnel syndrome!

 

[Dash80]

I am an independent 9/11 researcher. This should be clear to you by now if it wasn't before.

I'm talking about things that almost nobody else is talking about.

Have you ever stopped and thought why this may be? When only you and a handful of other loons are saying anything like it?

 

[Dash80]

I care much more about being respectful of the living survivors of iron oxide exposure who worked the pits at Ground Zero.

No, you don't because you pulled that "iron oxide exposure" out your rear end. You do not give a **** about a most of the people who were there, they support the "official theory" you disregard so ridiculously.

That is NOT caring.

 

[uke2se]

Might I recommend everyone just ignoring WTC Dust? She wants attention. That's why she's essentially reposting the same thread time and time again. I say, don't give it to her. There's no risk anyone's ever going to take her seriously, so there's no need for us to present "the other side".

 

[pgimeno]

Compare this to a theory of a few individuals controlling advanced weaponry from an office somewhere. Much, much less of a conspiracy needed with my theory.

Wrong. I pointed out some other necessary involvement. That you just ignore it doesn't help your case.

The only inconsistency is that the technology isn't public knowledge, yet.

Even more wrong. You have to totally ignore the reality of what happened that day and focus only in the destruction itself in order to make that statement. Mind you, many more things happened and many, many more facts were found and documented, which make your pet hypothesis sound childish and lacking any sense of reality.

 

[Dash80]

Yes! and also they should talk to the HR rep about getting some more ergonomic desks. Desks and monitors that high can cause neck strain and carpal tunnel syndrome!

Well, not the carpal tunnel as they don't appear to have any keyboards.

 

[rambaldi]

Ok, one step back... I might have missed it while facepalming...

How exactly is this related to 9/11? Did Judy's space beam somehow create those fumes years later?

 

[WTC Dust]

Wrong. I pointed out some other necessary involvement. That you just ignore it doesn't help your case.



Even more wrong. You have to totally ignore the reality of what happened that day and focus only in the destruction itself in order to make that statement. Mind you, many more things happened and many, many more facts were found and documented, which make your pet hypothesis sound childish and lacking any sense of reality.

I'd dump my hypothesis in a minute, if you'd just help me. I'd need to see evidence of an impact at the south face of WTC 2. Really, if I had that, I could dump the no plane theory.

I'm keeping my metallic foam theory until I know about a "normal" process that can produce it in an office fire.

 

[Dash80]

Might I recommend everyone just ignoring WTC Dust? She wants attention. That's why she's essentially reposting the same thread time and time again. I say, don't give it to her. There's no risk anyone's ever going to take her seriously, so there's no need for us to present "the other side".

Absolutely, but train wrecks are fascinating.

 

[WTC Dust]

In this thread also, you postulate an energy weapon. Where was the energy weapon when it conducted the attacks? Please point out anywhere on a map of the US where you think that it was located.

Bear in mind, you will have to ensure your location can see the area of what used to be the WTC, but without being blocked by anything else, natural landmarks or buildings.

My answer to this question is that I don't know where the weapon itself was located on 9/11, nor do I know where the technicians who operated the machinery were located on 9/11.

I'm somewhat laughing at your suggestion that the weapon had to have a direct line of site on Ground Zero. Why do you add this restriction?

 

[Dash80]

I'd dump my hypothesis in a minute, if you'd just help me. I'd need to see evidence of an impact at the south face of WTC 2. Really, if I had that, I could dump the no plane theory.

I'm keeping my metallic foam theory until I know about a "normal" process that can produce it in an office fire.

You are beyond help. Time and time again you have had what you request handed to you on a silver platter.

Then you continue with the same nonsense you always spout.

 

[Bell]

I'd dump my hypothesis in a minute, if you'd just help me. I'd need to see evidence of an impact at the south face of WTC 2. Really, if I had that, I could dump the no plane theory.

You really couldn't find this by yourself?



(Just one of the many videos.)

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Say, WTC Dust, in your fairytale, one baddie presses a button to destroy the towers and then another baddie shoots them to hush them up. Why didn't the baddie with the gun just push the button himself? Or why not his evil boss - why didn't he or she push the button.

Since your "explanation" simply consists of asserting that someone somewhere pressed a button and the buildings magically fell down, why do you need multiple baddies at all? Wouldn't just one Dr Evil style villain do?

 

[WTC Dust]

You are beyond help. Time and time again you have had what you request handed to you on a silver platter.

Then you continue with the same nonsense you always spout.

It's only because it hasn't been disproved, yet. You don't see me mentioning that anyone survived the impact between the airplane and the Empire State Building any more, do you? Myself I found it unusual, but I read it somewhere and it stuck. Or perhaps I got it confused with the report of survivors on the floor of the crash who went downstairs on the elevator.

In any case, I will change my theory when presented with better evidence. I've shown it in the above mentioned case. Thanks, JREF, for pointing out a flaw in my understanding of the events of the ESB crash!