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9/11-investigator is right about the Holocaust

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Uninvolved, I and plenty of other people on this forum used to be 9/11 truthers.
And I used to be a Holocaust denier.
 
Jontg said:
Uninvolved, I and plenty of other people on this forum used to be 9/11 truthers.
And I used to be a Holocaust denier.
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I haven't encountered many ex-HDer's around. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, was there any one pivotal thing that snapped you out of it?

- woolfe
 
Jontg said:
Uninvolved, I and plenty of other people on this forum used to be 9/11 truthers.
And I used to be a Holocaust denier.
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oh wow...never met one of those before.

i am gonna guess that at some point, you came to the realization that Holocaust-denial is 100% based on bigotry and has nothing to do with evidence or science.

or you spoke to an actual survivor who told you what they saw.
 
I got exposed to a good, thorough debunking of my views (namely, that the Soviets had exaggerated the death toll to downplay their own crimes against humanity). That included that old line about the "changing" number of casualties in Auschwitz. I also stopped hanging out with crypto-Libertarian nutballs, and thus stopped being bombarded with their rhetoric, allowing me to do my own research and figure out the truth of the matter for myself.
ETA: Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to spend the rest of the night listening to uplifting music and playing Call of Duty 2.
 
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Jontg said:
I got exposed to a good, thorough debunking of my views (namely, that the Soviets had exaggerated the death toll to downplay their own crimes against humanity). That included that old line about the "changing" number of casualties in Auschwitz. I also stopped hanging out with crypto-Libertarian nutballs, and thus stopped being bombarded with their rhetoric, allowing me to do my own research and figure out the truth of the matter for myself.
ETA: Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to spend the rest of the night listening to uplifting music and playing Call of Duty 2.
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Libertarians were Holocaust-deniers? Thats very sad to hear.

I don't get that one. I see no logical connection between being against big government and Jewish conspiracy theories.
 
LOL the crypto-Libertarian nutballs will get you every time. Glad to hear you came to your senses. :)

- woolfe
 
parky76 said:
Libertarians were Holocaust-deniers? Thats very sad to hear.

I don't get that one. I see no logical connection between being against big government and Jewish conspiracy theories.
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Libertarianism, as in being anti-big government, is not really connected per se. However, libertarianism often (but not always), goes along with isolationism. Isolationism is an occasional ideological springboard to HD, albeit a far less common one than neo-facism and/or anti-semitism.

- woolfe
 
parky76 said:
coming to a internet forum for the soul purpose of arguing..and not educating..is trolling.
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I would not say educating. Listening, collecting information and giving some. I don't see 9/11-investigator's posts as fighting for the sake of fighting; he does post lots of information. It is another subject, how much of that is correct, and independently of the correctness, how much of that will be accepted and by whom.
 
Uninvolved said:
I would not say educating. Listening, collecting information and giving some. I don't see 9/11-investigator's posts as fighting for the sake of fighting; he does post lots of information. It is another subject, how much of that is correct, and independently of the correctness, how much of that will be accepted and by whom.
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He doesn´t post information. He posts demented crap.

This crap is accepted, despite it being fictional, by you and your ilk. It is rejected, because it is fictional and for no other reason, by the rest of us.
 
Uninvolved said:
I would not say educating. Listening, collecting information and giving some. I don't see 9/11-investigator's posts as fighting for the sake of fighting; he does post lots of information.It is another subject, how much of that is correct, and independently of the correctness, how much of that will be accepted and by whom.
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Information? Rabid nonsense.
 
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You really think that I am after attention from somebody who naively confides: "Its just a place I come to..to pass the time."

Good God, don't you understand what is to be gained for a dying European Civilization if it can be shown that this Holocaust was largely a fraud... and you think that I am craving for Kleinbier like attention from the likes of you? The only real attention I am after is getting tens of thousands of people reading my blog and thus making my little mark on history. I could not care less about getting attention from you folks. You are Schnee von Gestern.
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Delusions of Grandeur much?
The poor dying European Civilization was burned down, mowed over and scattered by the European fascists, from Spain to Hungary.
Look at European literature after the Holocaust. the good writers either died or went into exile if they were lucky. What's left was the chaff and the few people who came back and went into mourning.
 
Honestly, I doubt I could ever have gone for the long haul as a holocaust denier, or any other conspiracy theorist. I have this... handicap, y'see, called Asperger's Syndrome. It makes it difficult for me to pick up on subtle, unspoken cues, and slang came to me only haltingly in my early life, as I had a propensity to take things a bit literally. So when people told me to think for myself, instead of unthinkingly swallowing their rhetoric and slogans like a healthy adolescent, I misinterpreted the request and began actually thinking for myself. As a result, I took the flawed data I'd received from the sweet n' salty nutbars I hung out with back then and arrived at what, with that data, seemed a rational, minimalist set of paranoid delusions, becoming a libertarian-lite LIHOP who thought global climate change was a real phenomenon spun into a disaster by hysterical laymen, only about 90% of the modern media was banal prolefeed, and the holocaust largely consisted of rounding up a few million people and working them to death. In the end, all it really took was exposure to solid facts to prompt me to do further thinking, which dispelled all of the above notions.
ETA: I'm still a gun nut, though. And I'm still not too keen on Israel.
 
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I realy have to spell it out for you. I repeat: there was a declaration of war. But there was no war. What part don't you understand?

BTW, I was thinking lately. Why would a hardcore holocaustian like you take a bicyle and drive to the local library to find this Red Cross report? Is there doubt creeping in Trojan? :D
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The fact that in your world, somehow being at war does not count as being at war.

The war at sea was certainly very active - does that not count?


BTW - as for the Red Cross, I decided that I wanted to try my hand and see just how badly revisionist do their research. I think I've shown this particular revisionist to be dishonorable to the core.
 
Jontg said:
Uninvolved, I and plenty of other people on this forum used to be 9/11 truthers.
And I used to be a Holocaust denier.
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Until you realized that those positions are bad for your career after you married your high school sweetheart and all over sudden had 2 kids, a dog, a car and a mortgage.
 
Nope, wrong on all counts. Nice try, though--given the sheer number of truthers who are suddenly realizing their lives are more important than their superficial, masturbatory rebellion, you had a statistically-significant chance of connecting with a cheap shot like that.
ETA: Well, technically I do have a dog.
ETA 2: And until you have an actual link, your signature is ********.
 
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