9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[TSR]

Has anyone ever claimed that 6 million Jews were gassed? It was my impression that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust, many from firing squads, starvation, overwork or any number of reasons. The gassings just contributed to a large percentage of that number. So the OP is fail from the get go.

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It comforts deniers not to think about firing squads, since they can't justify all of the children killed which are documented specifically.
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[Arisia]

So, you claim that since millions of victims of the Third Reich are unaccounted for, they weren't exterminated in various ways in camps, but pretty much every single one of them actually decided to go into hiding and not go back to their hometowns after the war instead.
Sounds like an extraordinary claim to me... and you know what they say about extraordinary claims...

I won't hold my breath, of course.

Good thing I didn't hold my breath.

It's still an issue with me. Millions of European civilians, mostly Jews, but not all, disappeared by the end of WWII, never to be seen again in their communities or by their families. It was a stated goal of the Third Reich to eliminate them, and the Third Reich built many facilities and used many methods to achieve that goal, and we have massive amounts of evidence (including testimony from Nazis themselves) to support that. I have seen no evidence yet that supports any other conclusion but that the Third Reich achieved this particular goal. Certainly I see no evidence from lgr that those millions of Europeans survived the war and chose to go into hiding from their own families and communities.
If I had survived such a situation as the Holocaust, the first thing I would have done was get home as quickly as I could, hoping that someone/something familiar was still alive/intact to greet me.

 

[Toke]

TBH Toke I had no idea Denmark had some such a high participation in Normandy. Was there a dedicated battalion or something?

We have been a big seafaring nation, upon invasion the sailors at work were stuck and went into allied service. The number of merchant ships required for the invasion made room for plenty of Danish sailors to do their regular job in harms way and help to liberate my country.
There were also some who joined allied military forces, but that is a different story.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Sign of the times, the revisionists are getting dangerous and too numerous to ignore:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/25/second-world-war-historians

Leading historians to take part in vast new website that aims to counter Holocaust deniers...

Andrew Roberts, Antony Beevor and Robert Service, who have all written bestselling books about the conflict, are among those who will appear on the website, which is to charge users for access to information and new footage. Other contributors include Professor Sir Ian Kershaw, the leading authority on the rise of Adolf Hitler, and Professor Sir Richard Evans.


This is good news.

 

[GlennB]

Any comment about your blatant lie regarding carlitos and post #3085 ?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Any comment about your blatant lie regarding carlitos and post #3085 ?

How would you interpret a tank aiming to shoot at a living being? As a sort of christmas card?

Back on topic... now here is a nice find:

Holocaust-uniqueness advocates have insisted that the Nazis intended to exterminate ALL Jews, first in Europe and then in the rest of the world. Hitler's comments don't support their contentions. Just two weeks before the Wannsee Conference, the Fuhrer said that the English must "settle that between themselves", adding that: "It's not our mission to settle the Jewish question in other people's countries!" (p. 185). Within days of Wannsee, Hitler spoke of Jews either leaving Europe or being exterminated (p. 235), or perhaps moving to Russia (p. 260). Evidently, Hitler was still open to a Final Solution that would include the mass emigration of Europe's remaining Jews. Finally, Hitler did NOT envision a Judenrein (Jewish-free) world in the distant future. Four days after Wannsee, he wrote: "A good three hundred or four hundred years will go by before the Jews set foot again in Europe. They'll return first of all as commercial travelers..." (p. 236).

Does not sound like Dolfy the Terminator at all. And this 3 days after Wannsee, where supposedly the extermination policy we are discussing here was decided upon! It is crystal clear that he wanted to kick the Jews out of Europe to at least have a few centuries of peace and quiet (just like England enjoyed after their king in 1290 threw the Jews out only to return 4 centuries later to England in the slip stream of the Dutch after they conquered Britain in order to loot England's treasury to combat that other Catholic bully: France). After all, Germans are no Russians or Americans who can't wait to abandon their freedoms and subjugate themselves to a certain hostile minority (9/11 was America's own 1917). Only a minority knows where the journey is heading.

 

[dudalb]

The term "Sick,Sick,Bastard" keeps running through my mind.

 

[Skeptic]

Sooooo, how if we go with tracking down those 24 missing muffles?

After you tell us when a few million missing Jews had gotten to.

Oh, and about those Jews escaping from Denmark: I guess those were those Jews who wanted to be found after the war.

Funny how Jews who couldn't get away from Nazi-occupied territory seems to have a penchant to not want to be found any more.

Curious, isn't it?

 

[TSR]

Back on topic... now here is a nice find:

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... if by "nice find," one means "completely unsourced paraphrases of things Hitler may or may not have said...."

Shall we get back to the Jäger report, where it is documented that your heroes rounded up and murdered thousands of children -- you claimed they were all partisans. Can you offer any proof that these children were tormenting their neighbors so badly as to excuse those neighbors cooperating in their murder?

Or would you prefer to discuss the non-existent invitations you claimed proved that established historians were afraid to debate the Holocaust -- and the history that that peon has of lying?
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[carlitos]

Living being? Now cartoon trolls are real, but the Holocaust isn't. Enjoy your continuing debate with this odious character, all.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Mr. Dalton will appear in a show, and now, surprise, surprise, nobody wants to debate him!

The 'best documented event in history', but nobody seems to be keen to score a few easy points against this scoundrel.

Over the past few months I have invited Deborah Lipstadt, Michael Shermer, John Zimmerman--the three most prominent critics of the "Holocaust deniers" -- as well as many dozens of professors from several of the leading Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Jewish Studies programs. While I have received a few cordial refusals, notably from Shermer and Lipstadt, the vast majority of the academic "experts" have refused to respond...as has anti-revisionist blogger Muehlenkamp.

A neutral observer might tend to the conclusion that all these H-word big shots prefer to communicate with their sheepish feminized lefty students, who love the H-word horros story and from whom no real opposition is to be expected (the kind of pupils our own Nick Terry loves so much) but as soon as they encounter some real opposition these cowards chicken out.

Tentative conclusion: there was no Holocaust.

Here is the show:

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-042410.mp3

In the end blogger Roberto Muehlenkamp was willing to show up after all, not in a direct confrontation, but in the second hour. Here is the response of Dalton to the opinions of Muehlenkamp:

http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6019&sid=f23cffe24b85bb8525494cec807bf693

 

[TSR]

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In the end blogger Roberto Muehlenkamp was willing to show up after all,

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...despite the lies having been told about the original invitation, and the inferences 9/11 drew from those lies, which zie *still* has not admitted were mindlessly parroted lies...

Care to go item by item from Dalton's whines, or are you still hoping your hand waving will distract from your heroes' cold blooded murder of innocent children, rounded up and shot for no other reason than they had the wrong parents?
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[9/11-investigator]

The term "Sick,Sick,Bastard" keeps running through my mind.

Dudalb is well advised to not talk to himself and certainly not in negative terms, which could have a negative effect on dudalb's self-esteem in the long run.

On a more positive note, Ernst Zuendel is celebrating his 71 birthday in freedom after he was released after more than 5 years in yail for having the wrong opinions about certain historical events.

Here a brand new video telling the life story of this hero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPK4wbGzS10

The West now has it's own Havel.

 

[TSR]

Here a brand new video telling the life story of this hero:

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...whose commitment to free speech is so great, comments have been disabled.

Funny that this video does not state that Zundel was *twice* unable to convince juries of his peers that he didn't know he was lying....
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[9/11-investigator]

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...whose commitment to free speech is so great, comments have been disabled.

Funny that this video does not state that Zundel was *twice* unable to convince juries of his peers that he didn't know he was lying....
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He made Hilberg say that there was no documentary evidence for the H-word whatsoever, that's what really counts.

And why are you so sure that it was not youtube who disabled the comments?

Meanwhile back in Holland:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6615121/__Moeite_met_Holocaust__.html?p=14,1

A funny side-effect of the mass-immigration of muzzies to The Netherlands is that their children are far less sensitive for the H-poison than their sheepish Dutch counterparts are. In the big cities it is often impossible for the Nick-Terry-teacher-types to sell their H-word spin to these pupils, so much so that these teachers abandon the subject altogether. The same H-word poison that caused the locals to be paralyzed and stop defending their borders against these invaders in contrast has no effect on the invaders. That means that the multicult mongers have a huge problem, since the H-word is centerpiece of the NWO, meaning the world controlled by Washington and Washington controlled by the YouKnowWhos. Ah well, it is all crashing down while we speak. Here scenes from the US of the near future.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I need some help from my esteemed oppopnents here. To my horror I read in the LA-Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-immigration-arizona-20100427,0,1589029.story

A tough new Arizona law aimed at rooting out illegal immigrants is reshaping the arguments used by the Obama administration and congressional Democrats in support of a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration system.

My opponents always explained to me that ausrotten has a sinister meaning within the WW2 context. Do I have to fear that these poor Mexican invaders are now going to be exterminated in a FEMA camp? Please tell me it ain't so.

After all we need at least one illegal alien left to go to Treblinka together with La Lipstadt to refute the claims made by our Australian friend Krege and prove that at least 750,000 bodies were once buried here.

We keep you posted!

 

[Toke]

rooting out vs. ausrotten?
You are joking right?

 

[dtugg]

Is the nazi piece of crap really trying compare what its heroes did during WW2 to deporting illegal immigrants? Really?

 

[Baylor]

rooting out vs. ausrotten?
You are joking right?

I thought wooden shoes were a joke, but I was wrong.

 

[little grey rabbit]

After you tell us when a few million missing Jews had gotten to.

Oh, and about those Jews escaping from Denmark: I guess those were those Jews who wanted to be found after the war.

Funny how Jews who couldn't get away from Nazi-occupied territory seems to have a penchant to not want to be found any more.

Curious, isn't it?

Is that a confession that the missing 24 muffles can not be located?

Are you a closet Backerist?