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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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9/11-investigator said:
Wow, TSR is almost on a per du basis with La Lipstadt (warning, graphic)... quite in sync with TSR's eagerness not to inform us about his own ethnic/religious affiliations. Obviously because the truth would hurt his credibility as an independent observer of historic facts, as he likes to present himself.
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I don't tend to report posts, but this is truly one of the most offensive things I have ever read here. I would never, ever say something like this about anyone.
 
carlitos said:
I don't tend to report posts, but this is truly one of the most offensive things I have ever read here. I would never, ever say something like this about anyone.
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That's the guy who wrote in #2347:

"I don't think I will keep dirtying my hands by addressing this nazi."

And in #3085 he is suggesting to use physical violence towards me (not censored of course).

One could call carlitos a hypocrite but I am sure this is deemed 'offensive' around here.

Ah well... in order to not hurt carlitos sensitive feelings I propose to rephrase the offensive sentence:

This is how miss Debbie Lipstadt looks like when she is happy. :D
 
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To be fair, in a thread on politics, I did post a youtube of the Blues Brothers running the Nazis off a bridge in Skokie. I find that a little less offensive than insinuating that someone isn't credible because they are Jewish.
 
carlitos said:
To be fair, in a thread on politics, I did post a youtube of the Blues Brothers running the Nazis off a bridge in Skokie. I find that a little less offensive than insinuating that someone isn't credible because they are Jewish.
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Especially when they aren't Jewish to begin with, and 9/11 has been told this, but cannot conceive that a non-Jew would actively oppose zir garbage.

Of course, 9/11 *still* has not clearly and unequivocally condemned his heroes for what he admits is the barbarous act of rounding up every last Jewish child for the express purpose of murdering them in cold blood...
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TSR said:
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Especially when they aren't Jewish to begin with, and 9/11 has been told this, but cannot conceive that a non-Jew would actively oppose zir garbage.

Of course, 9/11 *still* has not clearly and unequivocally condemned his heroes for what he admits is the barbarous act of rounding up every last Jewish child for the express purpose of murdering them in cold blood...
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I'm not Jewish either, not a drop of Jewish blood, and I've had a sibling take things back to the 17th century for some lines of ancestry. Of course, I imagine that's not far enough back, or complete enough, for 9/11. Or I'm lying, or something. :rolleyes:
 
Arisia said:
I'm not Jewish either, not a drop of Jewish blood, and I've had a sibling take things back to the 17th century for some lines of ancestry. Of course, I imagine that's not far enough back, or complete enough, for 9/11. Or I'm lying, or something. :rolleyes:
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The very fact that you are willing to deny your Joooshness confirms the mendacity of the entire group.

Or something...
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Wow, 99 pages of discussion. I wonder if this makes some kind of record. :)

If I can dare throw my hat in the ring .........

Something I've never understood is, of the 60 or 70 million people who died during WW2, why it is that the 10% who died in Nazi concentration camps are considered more significant than the other 90% who died through other tragic means?
 
chainlink said:
Something I've never understood is, of the 60 or 70 million people who died during WW2, why it is that the 10% who died in Nazi concentration camps are considered more significant than the other 90% who died through other tragic means?
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Well, in this case, the significance is that no historian claims that all of the victims of the Holocaust dies in the camps.

What definition of "significant" are *you* using?
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chainlink said:
Wow, 99 pages of discussion. I wonder if this makes some kind of record. :)

If I can dare throw my hat in the ring .........

Something I've never understood is, of the 60 or 70 million people who died during WW2, why it is that the 10% who died in Nazi concentration camps are considered more significant than the other 90% who died through other tragic means?
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Because there is a difference between someone who dies in war through fighting or exposure or lack of food, and someone who dies because there was a systematic attempt to kill all those who belong to his people to the last baby.

Noting that some groups -- Jews in particular, but also gypsies and homosexuals -- was prosecuted in a way unique in history, with the goal of eradicating them to the last man, hardly means nobody else was prosecuted.

But nobody ever said that those who died in the war are therefore not significant or don't count. Only that they're not victims of the holocaust, because they weren't.That many of them were heroes and are honored is, of course, obvious -- as can be seen in the war memorials in every country who was with the allies in the war.
 
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chainlink said:
Wow, 99 pages of discussion. I wonder if this makes some kind of record. :)

If I can dare throw my hat in the ring .........

Something I've never understood is, of the 60 or 70 million people who died during WW2, why it is that the 10% who died in Nazi concentration camps are considered more significant than the other 90% who died through other tragic means?
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I don't think they are. I think that if you added up all the people who participate in Russian war memorials, Australian ceremonies, French days of rememberance etc etc you would find 10 times as many people participating than you would in all the holocaust memorial activities. The holocaust denial industry is fairly tiny and floats around five websites selling or promoting books by the same rogues gallery of Holocaust Deniers.
 
There are also war memorials dedicated specifically to those in the armed forces who died in the war. Does this mean those who built such memorials, or participate in memorials services held next to such memorials, are disparaging the memory of those who died who were NOT soldiers? Of course not.
 
There is even a memorial in Normandy to the Danish sailors that died on allied merchant ships during the war.

ETA: the one near Utah beach is for the 800 that participated in the invasion.
 
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Toke said:
There is even a memorial in Normandy to the Danish sailors that died on allied merchant ships during the war.

ETA: the one near Utah beach is for the 800 that participated in the invasion.
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TBH Toke I had no idea Denmark had some such a high participation in Normandy. Was there a dedicated battalion or something?

Funny, I have never heard of this and yet I have heard of the Danish Jews rowing some rowboats to Sweden ad nausem.


Sooooo, how if we go with tracking down those 24 missing muffles?

Coming along, are we?
 
Matthew Ellard said:
And how are you going finding the missing jewish population from the Warsaw ghetto that ended up as a landscape feature of Treblinka? Are they in Minsk? (Nope) Are they in...Holland (Nope) Now where did they go?
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Now, now, Mr Ellard. The deal was you find the muffles and I'll find the Jews.

I even found 6 of them for you!!!!
 
little grey rabbit said:
Now, now, Mr Ellard. The deal was you find the muffles and I'll find the Jews.

I even found 6 of them for you!!!!
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Why am I looking for 24 ovens? I have read Pressac. What are you actually asking, in clear words? Are you upset about their capacity or something else?

· The three double-muffle ovens in Crematorium I of Main Camp Auschwitz had a capacity of 340 cremations in a 24-hour period.

· The five three-muffle ovens in Crematoria II and III of Birkenau each had a maximum capacity of between 1,000 and 1,500 cremations per 24 hours, but their normal capacity was 1,000 to 1,100 cremations each per 24 hours.

· The two eight-muffle ovens of Crematoria IV and V each had a capacity of 500 cremations per 24 hours.

That's 340+ 1500 + 500 = 2340 or a trainload of bodies ( including children) a day. What's your problem?

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
 
Has anyone ever claimed that 6 million Jews were gassed? It was my impression that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust, many from firing squads, starvation, overwork or any number of reasons. The gassings just contributed to a large percentage of that number. So the OP is fail from the get go.
 
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