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and as I have been told, then it was mostly uneducated and poor jews who came to post-WW1 Germany. They soon became a lower class, and many of them went on to crime in order to raise their standards of living. They were therefore an easy political target for blame, the criminals, since it was partly justified.

These underclass Jews were not that important. German anti-semitism had several causes:

- the perception that the Jews were behind communism (comparable with the perception that the Jews are behind neo-conservatism). Both perceptions are largely right. As such they were a threat for Germany itself. There was even a temporary communist takeover of Bavaria under Jewish leadership..
- the decisive role of the Jews in the defeat of Germany, keyword Balfour declaration. It was the work of the Jews to bring their American serfs into WW1 in exchange for the promise of Palestine in return. Because of this deal Germany was pushed into the abyss.
- the dominant role of the Jews in German economic life.

partly because I see the same phenomenon take place in several countries in Europe today, also in Denmark where I come from. The third largest party in Denmark wants to close the Danish borders for immigration, and they have also made it so; that you can deport immigrants who commit crimes without blinking. In short, then we have our new Jews here today,

There is one major difference, the Jews of the first half of the 20th century had no country of their own, a unique situation. The present day invaders have all fatherlands of their own. But yes we have our 'Jews' of our own, albeit from the other side of the IQ-spectrum, to formulate it diplomatically.

but they are from the middle east, poorly educated, more religious than us, and often involved in crime. Get the picture? It's history repeating, albeit in a more humane fashion this time.

Of course history is repeating itself. There are hardly examples of peaceful cohabitation of several groups sharing one territory. The question is always: 'when is the genocide going to start'.

How does this picture apply to you? Isn't it the same with middle eastern immigrants in Holland today as well? Maybe we should call our Islamic immigrants the neo-Jews, because from what I can understand, then it's the same deal. Once again. But this time it's not Jews who get the blame, but muslims.

In Holland the anti-immigrant party is not 3rd like you say is the case in Denmark, but the first. And obviously I am voting for it. I am Dutch and proud of it and I want to see a future for 'my kind of people' in our historic land. And I don't want to hand it over to the Islam as the left wants to have it. And I know that at some point a military clash will become inevitable. Probably somewhere between 2020-2030. It's going to be the largest disaster in our rather mild history so far.

It is not about good and evil, or guilt and blame. It's about identity and dominance. When 2 soccer teams occupy the same soccer field they never have a 'dialogue' together, neither do they 'try to understand each other'. Only one thing is of interest: 'who is the boss'. And in order to answer that question they start a 'fight'. I'm sure you get the symbolism.
 
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I vant peace... a little piece of Poland, a little piece of France...

Ah, I am glad that professional holocaust entrepreneur Nick has found some courage to return to the verbal battle field for a post or two.

- there was no Poland until the Anglos decided in 1918 that there should be one. Until 1914 it was never a problem that Russia bordered Germany and that Poland did not exist.

- small detail: it was France who had declared war on Germany as it moved to take back their lands that had belonged to Germany before WW1.

For Nick, who is/was on the same Jewish payroll as Churchill was (albeit with considerable less historic weight), there is no problem for Britain to invade about 25% of the world's territory in it's insatiable urge for ever more Lebensraum, but as soon as Germany tries to recapture it's own historic German lands (Sudetenland, Danzig), Nick starts to sneer and pulls a John Cleese in an attempt to demonstrate the world famous British humor (british perfidy is a more correct description).
 
That has been known to be not true for decades. Literally.
The official estimate (again, for decades) was 35000, recent studies found the number to be 25000, at most.

That's all correct, with the emphasis on has been, as in past tense.

Irving recently showed conclusive evidence that the number is in the ranged as he has always professed it was, as confirmed by German officials in internal communications, a few days after the mess had occured. These authorities had no incentive to make the numbers larger than they actually were in order to keep up the moral. They had to deal with the horrible situation.
 
Ah, I am glad that professional holocaust entrepreneur Nick has found some courage to return to the verbal battle field for a post or two.

- there was no Poland until the Anglos decided in 1918 that there should be one. Until 1914 it was never a problem that Russia bordered Germany and that Poland did not exist.

- small detail: it was France who had declared war on Germany as it moved to take back their lands that had belonged to Germany before WW1.

For Nick, who is/was on the same Jewish payroll as Churchill was (albeit with considerable less historic weight), there is no problem for Britain to invade about 25% of the world's territory in it's insatiable urge for ever more Lebensraum, but as soon as Germany tries to recapture it's own historic German lands (Sudetenland, Danzig), Nick starts to sneer and pulls a John Cleese in an attempt to demonstrate the world famous British humor (british perfidy is a more correct description).

Regarding John Cleese: 'Don't mention The Divorce'.

Ouch.
 
Given that you also predict a collapse of the United States, as well as deny the holocaust ever happened, any sensible person would take your predictions with a grain of salt at the very least. They are quite clearly the product of a diseased mind.

In that light in could be instructive for your static mind to browse through the political maps of europe over the last millenium. After every century the picture has completely changed. As recently as 19 years ago the worlds largest political entity lost, how much was it, 40%? of it's former territory. And you think that America will be intact forever, with it's adventurous immigration politics and it's catastropic financial condition? Think again.

http://www.euratlas.com/time2.htm

Chamberlain's reputation might recover a little over time, but not at the expense of Churchill's. Ever.

Never say never.
 
there was no Poland until the Anglos decided in 1918 that there should be one. Until 1914 it was never a problem that Russia bordered Germany and that Poland did not exist.

I thought I already brought out the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth map and showed that Poland existed as it's own independent state since 966. He's gone from denying the Holocaust to denying the existence of an entire nation and people, with their own culture, language and history. Impressive stuff!
 
I thought I already brought out the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth map and showed that Poland existed as it's own independent state since 966. He's gone from denying the Holocaust to denying the existence of an entire nation and people, with their own culture, language and history. Impressive stuff!

I have no moral judgment as to whether Poland of 1939 should be independent or divided between Russia and Germany. The Netherlands were part of Spain for a long time and of the German Reich for centuries. Again, look at the maps I provided a few posts earlier. Everything changes all the time. Borders change and America is going to be the next gigantic historic convulsion after the fall of the USSR.

The point is that I am not impressed with the usual Anglo lie that the German recapture of Prussia in 1939 meant 'tomorrow ze wurld'.

And that's exactly the point Buchanan was making.
 
Ah, I am glad that professional holocaust entrepreneur Nick has found some courage to return to the verbal battle field for a post or two.

- there was no Poland until the Anglos decided in 1918 that there should be one. Until 1914 it was never a problem that Russia bordered Germany and that Poland did not exist.

- small detail: it was France who had declared war on Germany as it moved to take back their lands that had belonged to Germany before WW1.

For Nick, who is/was on the same Jewish payroll as Churchill was (albeit with considerable less historic weight), there is no problem for Britain to invade about 25% of the world's territory in it's insatiable urge for ever more Lebensraum, but as soon as Germany tries to recapture it's own historic German lands (Sudetenland, Danzig), Nick starts to sneer and pulls a John Cleese in an attempt to demonstrate the world famous British humor (british perfidy is a more correct description).

wow, your errors-to-post ratio is waay up. Poland didn't exist before 1918?

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The little ditty is from The Producers, by Mel Brooks. You should watch it some time.

And no, I'm not a "professional holocaust entrepreneur", whatever the hell that is. I am associated with a non-commercial blog that discusses Holocaust denial, written mainly by amateur historians who receive no money for their efforts, and nor have I ever received a penny for them. The blog does not even feature adverts or an amazon clickthrough/kickback so there is absolutely no money involved whatsoever. I have not been paid once for posting anywhere on the internet. Such people do not exist in this field.

Nor am I a "Holocaust professional" as I am employed as a university teacher for 19th and 20th Century European and German history. The Holocaust occupies approximately 1/20th of my teaching load, as it does for any other historian teaching the same courses, regardless of their research expertise. Nor was my PhD on the Holocaust.

Nor have I ever received any money from a "Jewish payroll", whatever that is. My paystubs indicate I have only ever received money from British universities and recognised state funding bodies in the UK, along with 4 months worth of stipend from the US government.

I have been working academically on your silly belief system for a few years now, and not received a penny from any funding body whatsoever, "Jewish" or "Anglo" or otherwise.

Are you honest enough to withdraw your ad hominem attack on me and refrain from repeating it, or will I have to report you for repeating false allegations?
 
I thought I already brought out the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth map and showed that Poland existed as it's own independent state since 966. He's gone from denying the Holocaust to denying the existence of an entire nation and people, with their own culture, language and history. Impressive stuff!

And the century before WW1, Poland also existed - as "Congress Poland". Polish independence after WW1 also had very little to do with English influence - they fought for it themselves, and for their eastern borders, against the Soviets in 1919-1921.
 
German anti-semitism had several causes:

- the perception that the Jews were behind communism (comparable with the perception that the Jews are behind neo-conservatism). Both perceptions are largely right. As such they were a threat for Germany itself. There was even a temporary communist takeover of Bavaria under Jewish leadership..
- the decisive role of the Jews in the defeat of Germany, keyword Balfour declaration. It was the work of the Jews to bring their American serfs into WW1 in exchange for the promise of Palestine in return. Because of this deal Germany was pushed into the abyss.
- the dominant role of the Jews in German economic life.

Jews stabbed Germany in the back; the Jews are unpatriotic Communists while at the same time being a bunch of greedy capitalists. So really, Jews are to blame for whatever befell them.

Good to see you've covered all of your bases.
 
Not sure if this is the appropriate thread but the UNRWA is considering introducing the topic of the Holocaust into the year 8 curriculum for its schools in Gaza.

Hamas spiritual leader Younis al-Astal lashed out ... Adding the Holocaust to the curriculum would amount to "marketing a lie and spreading it," al-Astal wrote in a statement.

"I do not exaggerate when I say this issue is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies," he wrote.

Another teacher said he attended a recent meeting with education officials where he was told to try to teach the new syllabus without offending parents' sensibilities.


Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri also objected to including what he referred to as the "so-called Holocaust" in the lesson plan. "We think it's more important to teach Palestinians the crimes of the Israeli occupation," he said.

The Holocaust is not taught in West Bank schools, said an education ministry official in Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas' government.

Some parents opposed the idea of their children learning about the Holocaust. "I don't want them teaching my children Jewish lies," Mohammed Silmi, 33, said Monday, after driving his son to a U.N. school in Gaza City on the back of a motorbike. "It will just be Zionist propaganda."
 
These underclass Jews were not that important. German anti-semitism had several causes:

- the perception that the Jews were behind communism (comparable with the perception that the Jews are behind neo-conservatism). Both perceptions are largely right. As such they were a threat for Germany itself. There was even a temporary communist takeover of Bavaria under Jewish leadership..
- the decisive role of the Jews in the defeat of Germany, keyword Balfour declaration. It was the work of the Jews to bring their American serfs into WW1 in exchange for the promise of Palestine in return. Because of this deal Germany was pushed into the abyss.
- the dominant role of the Jews in German economic life.

ah, so you are suggesting that before 1918 anti-Semitism did not exist in Germany.

I would just love it if you would provide us with some evidence that "the Zionists" were somehow able to force the USA to go to war at the side of Britain.

Woodrow Wilson took great pride in staying out of WW1. But then, the Huns decided to sink the Lusitania. And then their U-Boats sank two more civilian vessels. And then there was the Zimmerman Letter which promised Mexico the lands of New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and southern California if they joined the war on the side of Germany.

Did the Zionists force Germany to sink civilian ocean liners and commercial vessels? Was Arthur Zimmerman, German Foreign Secretary, part of the Zionist Conspiracy?

The offer to Mexico was due to Germany's decision to resume unrestricted submarine warfare, which the German chancellor feared would draw the neutral United States into war on the side of the Allies.

Did the Zionists force these decisions upon Germany?? Certainly not.

And if you think the Zionists DID force the Zimmerman Letter, DID force Germany to resume unrestricted sub-warfare, and DID force Germany to sink the RMS Lusitania, the SS Housatonic, and the SS Californa....PROVE IT!!!

Otherwise, your contention that the Jews were responsible for Germany's loss in WW1 is without merit..and purely irrational Jew-hatred.
 
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Wow, where one sheep goes, follows another.

America's most blunt commentator of the Iraq war and one of the most prominent critics of the Israel lobby in the US, the right wing libertarian Justin Raimondo, follows in Buchanan's footsteps and demolishes the idea of WW2 as the 'good war':

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/09/03/the-good-war/

This is quit a breakthrough! Raimondo: Buchanan also makes the indisputable point that if only the Poles had given Danzig back to Germany, from whom it had been taken in the wake of the disastrous Treaty of Versailles, a negotiated peace would have been the result – a much more desirable one than 56,125,262 deaths and the incalculable toll taken by the war in terms of resources and pure human misery.

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Meanwhile, Buchanan continues his war on Churchill, 2 days ago in Westminster/London/England. From his speech...

Churchill Spurred the Decline of the West.


"Resolved: Churchill was more a liability than an asset to the free world."...

But Churchill’s career did not last a single year. It lasted half a century. And, over that half century, no other career of a Western statesman was more calamitous for his country and his civilization than that of Winston Spencer Churchill.

More than any other British leader, in 1914 and 1939, Churchill lusted for war and pushed his country to turn two European wars into world wars, so Germany might be destroyed.

Both times, he succeeded.

And history records that those wars, that together took the lives of perhaps a hundred million Europeans, were the mortal blows that advanced the death of the West.

And it was Winston Churchill who led the West in its advance to barbarism.


You can´t get it clearer than this, can you?

The author of The Death of the West pulls the plug out of the West. Destroy it's founding myths in order to make way for something new.

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/511RH...ow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU15_.jpg

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Are you Buchanan's book salesman? Do you get money for that? I see no argument worthy of attention in your last post. Just the typical right wing aversion to Churchill.
 
ah, so you are suggesting that before 1918 anti-Semitism did not exist in Germany.

Anti-semitism is thousands of years old and will only end when the Jews stop being a diaspora people and start to live in a country of their own (not a stolen one though). I advocate to give upstate New York to the Jews after the coming Soviet-style meltdown of the US.

I would just love it if you would provide us with some evidence that "the Zionists" were somehow able to force the USA to go to war at the side of Britain.

There you go.

Woodrow Wilson took great pride in staying out of WW1. But then, the Huns decided to sink the Lusitania.

They were completely justified in doing so as has recently found out..

And then their U-Boats sank two more civilian vessels. And then there was the Zimmerman Letter which promised Mexico the lands of New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and southern California if they joined the war on the side of Germany.

Zimmerman who?

Did the Zionists force Germany to sink civilian ocean liners and commercial vessels? Was Arthur Zimmerman, German Foreign Secretary, part of the Zionist Conspiracy?

Read Freedman, the Jewish defector.
 
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Antisemitism in Germany and also Austria was rampant before, during and after the first World War. Google after Hofprediger (court preacher) Adolf Stoecker and his antisemite party or Lanz von Liebenfels or Karl Lueger.
To me stuff like the Antisemitenpetition of 1880 looks more like Christian conservatives fought the assimilation of the well educated and often patriotic German jews.
 
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