9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[Elagabalus]

Oh look, someone else that can't address the thread, and instead, would like to point out a previous hair out of place. Perhaps you'd like to start a new thread. You could call it "Steve isn't perfect!" and all you fine boys and girls who don't have the courage to use your real names and faces on the Internet can regale in your anonymous, yet cowardly, superiority.

But whatever you do don't address the evidence of missile impacts.

This, dear reader, is the post he/she/it is referring to. https://911crashtest.org/video-smoke-machine-at-shanksville/
I'll leave it up to you whether or not a smoke machine was used at Shanksville. I look forward to hearing from you, especially if you're not too timid to admit the obvious.

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/video-smoke-machine-at-shanksville/[/qimg]

Shanksville wasn't the only place! Smoke machine at the Pentagon too, but then, this post is about how (and why) they faked the videos at the WTC.
https://911crashtest.org/911-the-pentagon-smoke-screen/

It's like herding cats to try to keep you guys, gals, and algorithms, on topic.

They just went out to Shanksville and set up a smoke machine? And no one saw them hauling it in? They didn't ask for directions or ask for permission before setting up a smoke machine out in the middle of nowhere with only a dirt road for access? Out of all the other spots they could have chosen (like the White House) they decided to put it out in Shanksville just to make it look like the plane didn't reach it's destination even though they've successfully fooled everyone about the other crashes?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

No that would be those who insist what was shown on television is possible in the real world.

Do you not know what the term “shifting the burden of proof” means?

 

[Deadie]

You lost me.

You are arguing that someone utilized a device that produced enough visible flue gasses from some sort-of combustion engine into fooling us into thinking a plane had crashed, when in fact nothing at all had happened. I am wondering what this device was or is.

 

[yankee451]

You are arguing that someone utilized a device that produced enough visible flue gasses from some sort-of combustion engine into fooling us into thinking a plane had crashed, when in fact nothing at all had happened. I am wondering what this device was or is.

Seriously?
https://www.smokemachines.net/buy-smoke-machines.shtml

 

[Robin]

You haven't though. You pointed to a hole in the cladding that only supports my conclusion. You didn't explain how the 767 wing could slice through three sides of steel column, while missing the aluminum sheeting that covered those three sides. Only two of the three sides of aluminum were cut. The side the wing ought to have cut first, was only bent (and had a little hole in it), but bent in the opposite direction than the wing impacted.

Forgive me if I missed your explanation of this extraordinary event.

The side of the cladding on the left is not completely severed. Right?

Are you saying that the column could not be damaged without the cladding being cut through entirely, including the sides?

Can you respond to that question (rather than changing the question)?

And can you finally explain how a cruise missile could pass between the column and that piece of cladding without slicing it off? And give an example of a missile that you think could do this.

 

[yankee451]

Do you not know what the term “shifting the burden of proof” means?

Actually no, I had to look it up, but all I found was a picture of some dog named "Mr. Peabody."

 

[yankee451]

The side of the cladding on the left is not completely severed. Right?

Are you saying that the column could not be damaged without the cladding being cut through entirely, including the sides?

Can you respond to that question (rather than changing the question)?

And can you finally explain how a cruise missile could pass between the column and that piece of cladding without slicing it off? And give an example of a missile that you think could do this.

WTF? Draw me a picture.

 

[yankee451]

The side of the cladding on the left is not completely severed. Right?

Are you saying that the column could not be damaged without the cladding being cut through entirely, including the sides?

Can you respond to that question (rather than changing the question)?

And can you finally explain how a cruise missile could pass between the column and that piece of cladding without slicing it off? And give an example of a missile that you think could do this.

How many times would you like me to do this?

 

[Robin]

I'm sorry, but was this your explanation about why the planes that struck at allegedly different trajectories, created almost identical damage that doesn't match what we were shown on television?



[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/approach1.png[/qimg]



[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/flight-175.png[/qimg]

You were confused earlier about the direction of the plane that hit the south tower, I just wanted to get it clear.

If you have shown that the evidence of any video is inconsistent with the damage I haven't seen it.

In fact you refused to respond earlier when I asked you repeatedly which videos you were referring to.

 

[Elagabalus]

Seriously?
https://www.smokemachines.net/buy-smoke-machines.shtml

Feeble, dude.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Do you not know what the term “shifting the burden of proof” means?

Actually no, I had to look it up, but all I found was a picture of some dog named "Mr. Peabody."

Prove it.

 

[Robin]

How many times would you like me to do this?

You suggested a couple before, but when I asked you to confirm you meant the one whose specification I linked you became evasive, probably because the ones you suggested were too large to have fit through the gap.

Tell me one that would fit.

 

[Robin]

WTF? Draw me a picture.

Please respond to the question.

Are you saying that the column could not be damaged unless the cladding is completely severed, including the sides?

 

[Robin]

WTF? Draw me a picture.

But do you see what I mean? I ask you direct clear questions and you respond with a weak evasion like "WTF? Draw me a picture"

This has been your pattern consistently.

 

[JSanderO]

plans of the towers shown are incorrect and columns are seriously out of scale

 

[Robin]

I will be more than happy to draw a picture when you confirm the dimensions of the cruise missile that allegedly passed through that gap without slicing the piece of cladding completely off.

 

[Leftus]

Forgive me if I missed your explanation of this extraordinary event.

What extraordinary event? The lightly damaged cladding?

Or the extraordinary even of a missile that could not pass flight checks, designed to avoid lateral contact, making lateral contact before making a hard left (without a wing) into a building with some precision formation flying (to look like a 767)?

Flying a passenger airliner into a building, much easier.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Seriously?
https://www.smokemachines.net/buy-smoke-machines.shtml

Are they the smoke machines that were used?
They are a bit small aren't they?
Why not just light fires and let them smoke?

 

[GlennB]

Are they the smoke machines that were used?
They are a bit small aren't they?
Why not just light fires and let them smoke?

In a big hole, with aircraft debris and human body parts strewn around the whole area.

******* madness.

 

[Elagabalus]

Are they the smoke machines that were used?
They are a bit small aren't they?
Why not just light fires and let them smoke?

Too realistic. Then everybody would be suspicious.

Why not fake hit the White House? I mean, if everybody in the entire world but Steve is in on it, why go out to Shanksville to light some trees on fire when you can rent some smoke machines locally in D.C. and avoid all the heavy lifting?