9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[Crazy Chainsaw]

And yet none of you will touch the evidence that leads me to my conclusions. The truth hurts.

That's because it is nonsensical not logical and Irrelevant.
A plane being composed of Aluminum covering an Aluminium steel bulkhead and wing spars that are strong enough to support the landing gear on take off and landing would easily punch though the thin steel Columns.
That makes your opinion not evidence worthless, because it is just your uneducated opinion.

 

[yankee451]

I've had multiple concussiuons through the years but even that doesn't make your fantasy construct any more believable.

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

The fantasy of missiles which didn't exist and weren't seen and fail to explain all the other evidence of planes and their passengers does not appear to be a rational substitute.

 

[Wolrab]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

A mind that open is called a TBI by medical professionals.

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

When should we expect you to start doing this? The third Tuesday of the month?

 

[BStrong]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

Might want to study up on kinetic energy.

 

[beachnut]

19 years of no physics? Enough time to earn a PhD or two

And yet none of you will touch the evidence that leads me to my conclusions. The truth hurts.

Oops, touching the evidence proves your claims are nonsesene at best.

Some horses can't even be led to water.

So true, and autobiographical.

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

Knowledge of physics would kill this nonsense. Physics! - why have you banned it.


An "open mind" in this case, like an open marriage and the wife left.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

There used to be a series on the TV called 'Time Team' it was an arcehology show.

In a few episodes they excavated crashed WW2 aircraft. One that I remember was a Douglas A-26 Invader. It flew in to the ground at full throttle after it collided with another A-26 at low altitude over England.
Another was a B-17 that went in nose first at high speed.

Both aircraft were destroyed on impact and the remains burrowed deep in to the ground. Parts from the A-26 were over 20 feet down in hard clay soil.
Why wouldn't a huge airliner at full throttle burrow in to the ground?

 

[Axxman300]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

1. Not all steel is created equal.

2. Concrete fractures with the popper amount of force.

3. Air craft, especially large aircraft will burrow into the ground at the end of a high speed dive.

None of this is speculation and there are thousands of examples of these things happening.

Fun story, in 2000 a guy jumped off the Stratosphere Hotel in Las Vegas. He landed upright in a sitting position 1,100 feet below. The impact combined with the angle caused his spine to be driven into the concrete sidewalk and his body had to be jack-hammered out.

Physics is fun.

 

[bknight]

1. Not all steel is created equal.

2. Concrete fractures with the popper amount of force.

3. Air craft, especially large aircraft will burrow into the ground at the end of a high speed dive.

None of this is speculation and there are thousands of examples of these things happening.

Fun story, in 2000 a guy jumped off the Stratosphere Hotel in Las Vegas. He landed upright in a sitting position 1,100 feet below. The impact combined with the angle caused his spine to be driven into the concrete sidewalk and his body had to be jack-hammered out.

Physics is fun.

Along with trigonometry and both negate his beliefs.

 

[carlitos]

Fun story, in 2000 a guy jumped off the Stratosphere Hotel in Las Vegas. He landed upright in a sitting position 1,100 feet below. The impact combined with the angle caused his spine to be driven into the concrete sidewalk and his body had to be jack-hammered out.

Physics is fun.

I jumped off the Stratosphere a couple of weeks ago. But I used a harness. It was kind of amazing.

 

[JSanderO]

I think a big problem that Steve has is not understanding the strength properties of the steel plate in the columns on the 94th to the 98th floors. It was 1/2" thick.

That plate being hit by a large jet at 500mph would fail in an instant.

Steel they were... but not intended to resist the lateral forces represented by the place. Don't be fooled by the OAL dimensions of the boxes... the plates up there were pretty thin.

 

[benthamitemetric]

I don’t think this has been posted yet, so here is an extremely detailed breakdown and analysis of the physics of the collision of the planes with the twin towers that was prepared by experts at MIT: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...D359B3D4?doi=10.1.1.367.491&rep=rep1&type=pdf

There’s also at least two metabunk threads discussing this topic:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ho...ngs-penetrate-the-wtc.3326/page-4#post-216889

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/lo...aluminum-wings-penetrating-steel-facade.9397/

Nothing new under the sun. And trutherland has only become stupider and more intellectually stagnant as time has gone on, as yankee451 ably demonstrates.

 

[curious cat]

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Fun story, in 2000 a guy jumped off the Stratosphere Hotel in Las Vegas. He landed upright in a sitting position 1,100 feet below. The impact combined with the angle caused his spine to be driven into the concrete sidewalk and his body had to be jack-hammered out.

Physics is fun.

I wouldn't be surprised if his injuries were fatal.

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

I think a big problem that Steve has is not understanding the strength properties of the steel plate in the columns on the 94th to the 98th floors. It was 1/2" thick.
That plate being hit by a large jet at 500mph would fail in an instant.

Steel they were... but not intended to resist the lateral forces represented by the place. Don't be fooled by the OAL dimensions of the boxes... the plates up there were pretty thin.

Ships in the Bering Sea rupture their hulls by running into ice. The fastest these ships generally travel in ice is about 8 knots per hour (less than 10 mph.) The thickness of the hulls is usually not more than 5/8" thick-which is THICKER than the steel in the columns.

 

[CORed]

I think a big problem that Steve has is not understanding the strength properties of the steel plate in the columns on the 94th to the 98th floors. It was 1/2" thick.

That plate being hit by a large jet at 500mph would fail in an instant.

Steel they were... but not intended to resist the lateral forces represented by the place. Don't be fooled by the OAL dimensions of the boxes... the plates up there were pretty thin.

I'm pretty sure that Steve suffers from the simplistic misconception that when objects made of two different materials collide, harder or stronger material "wins", and only the weaker or softer material is damaged. In the real world, it just doesn't work that way, especially the impact happens at a high velocity. I realize I've made this point many times, but I live in Colorado, where, in many areas of the mountains, snow avalanches are a frequent occurrence. These commonly break trees, sometimes trees that are several inches in diameter. Yes, a mass of unconsolidated snow, moving at high velocity (but considerably lower velocity than the planes on 9/11 were moving), can snap off a thick, strong tree. I don't find anything the least bit remarkable about aluminum planes moving at several hundred miles per hour breaking steel beams.

 

[TJM]

The fantasy of magical planes that cut through steel, bore through concrete, and burrow into the ground, ends when one examines the evidence with an open mind.

N334AA went into WTC 1 at approximately 494 MPH with 92 people aboard.
N612UA went into WTC 2 at approximately 586 MPH with 65 people aboard.
N644AA went into The Pentagon at approximately 527 MPH with 64 People aboard.
N591UA went into the ground at approximately 563 MPH with 44 people aboard.

Two questions for Steve - What, in your learned opinion, should've happened to these planes upon their impacts?

What happened to the 265 people aboard the planes? Their families might like to know.

 

[Robin]

Fire a length of aircraft grade aluminum lengthways at 800 kph towards a length of 2cm thick construction grade steel held sideways and the aluminium would definitely win.

 

[Robin]

And yet none of you will touch the evidence that leads me to my conclusions. The truth hurts.

And this is not true, your "evidence" has been dealt with over and over.

 

[smartcooky]

"You can lead horse to the water but you can make it drink..."

Some horses can't even be led to water.

and and no-planers can't even be led to facts!