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Does anyone know any Architects and or Engineers that know about Richard Gage...

and yet do not agree with him? I know i personally do not agree with him and i know a few engineers. I am just asking about anyone else.
 
debunker9145 said:
and yet do not agree with him? I know i personally do not agree with him and i know a few engineers. I am just asking about anyone else.
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There are a few out there. Not many. Some people like to be different and buck the system, ya know.
 
Galileo said:
There are a few out there. Not many. Some people like to be different and buck the system, ya know.
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Good point. I am just worried about him at the AIA convention and i am worried that he may get the turnout that he wants. :covereyes
btw i do not agree with Tricky Dick, and neither do the engineers i know.
 
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Myself, and everyone I know personally in the field, minus the one guy who got his name put on the petition, think he's a loony - if they know about him at all.

I think that it's awesome that he's at the convention. More exposure is what they think they want, but I imagine they will scurry like cockroaches when the light is shined on them.
 
It's a long story but I think they deliberately started the conspiracy theories themselves. Did you really think Bush's fiasco in the school was an accident ? Or Runsfeld saying a month after 9/11 that a missile had hit the pentagon ? Or that Rumsfeld also said that flight 93 had been shot down ? Nah this as to build the image of the '9/11 conspiracy theorist' with which any credible doubter could be associated. That's why it was urgent to get the characterisation under way right away. Even Bush saying that November 'Do not believe any conspiracy theories'....he must have been nearly the first in the country to mention them. A Psyop all the ay.

Some examples:

Woman says 'that was not an American Airlines'
...Fox reporter says he saw no windows and a circu'lar blue logo...''plane didn't look like it belonged in this area''
....Bush at the school...
...rumsfeld, missile at Pentagon, 93 shot ddown
smoke machine WTC1.....
Core blown out 86th WTC1........
 
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It's a long story but I think they deliberately started the conspiracy theories themselves. Did you really think Bush's fiasco in the school was an accident ? Or Runsfeld saying a month after 9/11 that a missile had hit the pentagon ? Or that Rumsfeld also said that flight 93 had been shot down ? Nah this as to build the image of the '9/11 conspiracy theorist' with which any credible doubter could be associated. That's why it was urgent to get the characterisation under way right away. Even Bush saying that November 'Do not believe any conspiracy theories'....he must have been nearly the first in the country to mention them. A Psyop all the ay.

Some examples:

Woman says 'that was not an American Airlines'
...Fox reporter says he saw no windows and a circu'lar blue logo...''plane didn't look like it belonged in this area''
....Bush at the school...
...rumsfeld, missile at Pentagon, 93 shot ddown
smoke machine WTC1.....
Core blown out 86th WTC1........
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The clincher for me was when they took all of the hit piece lines out of South Park, then pretended that the CTers did it so people would think the CTers did it to distract from the hit pieces.
 
debunker9145 said:
and yet do not agree with him? I know i personally do not agree with him and i know a few engineers. I am just asking about anyone else.
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Hmmm. How about the 'overwhelming majority?'

If I could get to the AIA convention, I'd go. (Not sure if broadcast engineers count, but I'm a pretty smooth talker. I bet I could finagle my way in.)

Anyway, I'd like to sit front and center with a nice big bowl of popcorn - to witness the dumbfounded looks on the faces of the legitimate architectural and engineering community.

Where is that damned popcorn smiley, anyway?
 
First, I am new here, so hello all of you.

Related to the newspaper shown in a post above, I am French, so I can tell you that the truth movement is not popular in France.
Although we have a minority active on internet forums.
 
So I guess some things really do transcend national and cultural borders then? Mainly the truthers being a fringe minority relegated to the dark basements of the internet.
 
phil76 said:
First, I am new here, so hello all of you.
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Welcome to the forum. :)

Related to the newspaper shown in a post above, I am French, so I can tell you that the truth movement is not popular in France.
Although we have a minority active on internet forums.
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Ah, so much like most of the rest of world. That is good to know.
 
phil76 said:
First, I am new here, so hello all of you.

Related to the newspaper shown in a post above, I am French, so I can tell you that the truth movement is not popular in France.
Although we have a minority active on internet forums.
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Welcome to the JREF phil76

Whats the French word for "Basement" or "Cellar"? And if they have few of those over in France that explains the unpopularity of the truth movement.
 
Thanks Hokulele and AW Smith

A Basement is a Sous sol.
We have few truthers, but I am ashamed we have Thierry Meyssan, and some others. :o
 
We also have Reopen911.info where you are welcome... provided you don't buy the "official" theory and don't question William Rodriguez :D
 
http://911blogger.com/node/19889

In case anyone's wondering how the towers could have been accessed to be prepped for demo.

Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway.
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For the love of god.

I would venture to guess that "Renovations" occurred on an almost continuous basis for the life of the towers. They were 110 storeys x 2 of office space, stores, etc....

TAM
 
Personally I lean towards real planes having been used on 9/11 on the grounds of that itwould surely have been easier to do so.

On the other hand there is a certain amount of compelling evidence hat points to a lot of video fakery having been inserted into the narrative. Have a look at this clip from 'September Clues' for instance that shows the delicate carbon fibre nose of the plane penetrating one steel wall of the building and exitng through the other....apparently intact.
http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?fs=1&cid=6F393F4DE41C4CF798CBB438E6378129 September clues
 
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http://911blogger.com/node/19889

In case anyone's wondering how the towers could have been accessed to be prepped for demo.
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I must have missed the part that explains how every single one of the thousands of people constantly in and out of the towers could have failed to notice anything suspicious about workman planting explosives pretending to be doing renovations, or how planting explosives on the steel frame of a highrise could have been disguised as "renovations" to begin with, or how every single first responder, clean-up crew member, and investigator could have missed evidence of explosives.
 
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bill smith said:
Personally I lean towards real planes having been used on 9/11 on the grounds of that itwould surely have been easier to do so.

On the other hand there is a certain amount of compelling evidence hat points to a lot of video fakery having been inserted into the narrative. Have a look at this clip from 'September Clues' for instance that shows the delicate carbon fibre nose of the plane penetrating one steel wall of the building and exitng through the other....apparently intact.
http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?fs=1&cid=6F393F4DE41C4CF798CBB438E6378129 September clues
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for the love of god, again...

Just because debris exiting the tower FROM ONE CAMERA, FROM ONE ANGLE, FROM A TREMENDOUS DISTANCE, on a LOW REZ video, RESEMBLES the shape of a jet nose cone, DOES NOT MEAN THAT WHAT EXITED THE BUILDING was an intact nose cone.

:hb::hb::hb:
 
T.A.M. said:
for the love of god, again...

Just because debris exiting the tower FROM ONE CAMERA, FROM ONE ANGLE, FROM A TREMENDOUS DISTANCE, on a LOW REZ video, RESEMBLES the shape of a jet nose cone, DOES NOT MEAN THAT WHAT EXITED THE BUILDING was an intact nose cone.

:hb::hb::hb:
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I am pleased that you assert here that it DID resemble the nose cone of the plane TAM. It gets us off to a positive start.
 
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