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RedIbis said:
Where? Can you quote where Dr. G makes such a statement.
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The Fe/Cr/Zn peak ratios are also correct for Tnemec primer paint. Jones has previously asked me about zinc in some of his WTC dust samples. Galvanized steel is one possibility, but zinc chromate from Tnemec paint is another ....
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There is more there as well.
 
RedIbis said:
Where? Can you quote where Dr. G makes such a statement.
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Greeenings 301 post on the site I linked to....

But Metamars, there are several potential sources of magnetic chips in WTC dust that Harrit et al. all but ignore......

Here are a few:

* Dislodged protective paint: this would most likely contain micaceous iron oxide = kaolin + Fe2O3. This is consistent with the detection of Al and Si (in addition to Fe and O) in the chips. However, NIST suggests Tnemec red primer paint was in fact used on the WTC structural steel, and this brand of paint contains zinc chromate in addition to calcium aluminum silicates.

* Spalled duplex iron oxide chips from atmospheric corrosion of A-36 steel. NIST reported Ca and Si were incorporated in the loosely adherent oxide scales on the WTC steel samples it examined.

* Electromagnetic noise suppressor materials consisting of laminated Fe-Si-Al (oxides) deposited on polymeric sheets and used in many electronic devices that would have been prevalent in the Twin Towers such as: laptops, cellular phones, digital cameras, TV monitors, RFID devices, etc, ...
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TAM:)
 
This is not exactly an integrated collapse theory but it contains some components that could fill in a few blanks.


We were arguing a week or two back about the fireproofing upgrade in WTC1- apparently only on the floors where the plane went in or ones that showed excessive amounts of fire. I call this 'extra fireproofing' rather than a 'fireproofing upgrade'.


You see I think some of the core columns had nano-thermite sprayed INSIDE them....drill a hole, charge the column and spray on however many layers you like. Fill it up even. The extra fireproofing may have been to stop the jet fuel igniting the thermite prematurely as nano-thermite ignites at only 430 degrees C. The extra-thick fireproofing may also have acted as 'lightproofing' against the characteristic bright glare of the ignited thermite.


This might have ocurred in an entire column from bottom to top- all 1300 feet draining the molten steel down into the basements. If this happened with many selected columns there might be hundreds or even thousands of tons of molten steel in the basements which could explain why it stayed molten for months and why there was so little steel on the ground outside after the
collapse.

The steel that poured out of WTC2 might point to a similar process going on there.. Also this would explain the hundreds of tons of thermite that would have been needed to provide such an even distibution of unreacted thermite chips in the WTC dust.
 
bill smith said:
This is not exactly an integrated collapse theory ... .
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lol

bill smith said:
We were arguing a week or two back about the fireproofing upgrade in WTC1- apparently only on the floors where the plane went in or ones that showed excessive amounts of fire. I call this 'extra fireproofing' rather than a 'fireproofing upgrade'..
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The fires were due to the office contents, not thermite. No thermite products were found; zero. Thermite leaves products, they were not there.

bill smith said:
You see I think some of the core columns had nano-thermite sprayed INSIDE them....drill a hole, charge the column and spray on however many layers you like. Fill it up even. ... .
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Funny stuff! Good job, you know Jones backs the thermite in the ceiling tiles.

bill smith said:
This might have ocurred in an entire column from bottom to top- all 1300 feet draining the molten steel down into the basements. ... .
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Oh? Why did the large section of column stand after the building fell; until if fell in 20 seconds? Good delusion proved wrong on 911. Sorry, no columns had thermite in them! Zero.


bill smith said:
The steel that poured out of WTC2 might point to a similar process going on there.. Also this would explain the hundreds of tons of thermite that would have been needed to provide such an even distribution of unreacted thermite chips in the WTC dust.
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What steel?

Hundreds of tons? Sorry zero pounds of thermite product were recovered from the WTC. The steel was studied, no thermite evidence on the steel.

You could quote Hitler again. Why do you lack knowledge on 911?
 
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bill smith said:
This might have ocurred in an entire column from bottom to top- all 1300 feet draining the molten steel down into the basements. If this happened with many selected columns there might be hundreds or even thousands of tons of molten steel in the basements which could explain why it stayed molten for months and why there was so little steel on the ground outside after the
collapse.
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So how was the hundreds- or thousands-of-tons weight block of solidified steel removed from Ground Zero without anyone noticing?

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Dave Rogers said:
So how was the hundreds- or thousands-of-tons weight block of solidified steel removed from Ground Zero without anyone noticing?

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maybe a lot of it is still there Dave. Why not go to New York yourself and scan for a large magnetic anomaly ?

Here's a little joke. You know what I call the steel in the basements ?....'CHINA'.....lol.
 
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Dave Rogers said:
So how was the hundreds- or thousands-of-tons weight block of solidified steel removed from Ground Zero without anyone noticing?

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darn, I missed that low fruit.

He quotes Hitler in his posts. I wonder if his useful knowledge on 911 goes beyond knowing the date?

Why do 911Truth believers quote NAZIs? Do they share the same anti-intellectual spirit?
 
bill smith said:
maybe a lot of it is still there Dave. Why not go to New York yourself and scan for a large magnetic anomaly ?

Here's a little joke. You know what I call the steel in the basements ?....'CHINA'.....lol.
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That's great!

So was it: (A) The clean up crew and later construction crews are complete idiots and somehow missed huge masses of solidified steel. Or (B) They are in on it. Has to be one or the other, twoofer.
 
LCFC sold in french paper shops

A french conspiracist magazine has decided to pack LCFC with an addendum of 80 pages and sell it... €20 (roughly $26).

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(Translation of the cover:

* Evidences of an inside job
* 9/11 Commission Report's Omissions and Manipulations
* Mysteries of the Pentagon (and Shanksville?)

* Disturbing Eyewitnesses
* DRG's investigation

The documentary which reveals all those which haven't been said yet!
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)

The Ultimate Absolute Truth has no price!
 
France is known to hate Americans with a passion, so they'll buy into any claptrap that shows that we are stupid
 
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