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7/7 academic woo?

Sorry, I just finished reading the Agatha Christie book, 4.50 from Paddington, the other day, and that is what struck me.

Train timetables appear to be a staple device in English murder mysteries.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
English? Taggart????
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In my defence I also included Bergerac and he's from Jersey.

Thanks for the heads up though, it'll give me a chance to get a head start from all the irate scotsmen*


*could the most redundant use of the word "irate."
 
In order to move the action to Canary Wharf, Hill tries to explain away the obvious action someone placed in his scenario would take: telephone family, friends or anyone trustworthy and explain how they had been 'set up'.

Hill said:
The phones are all not working, first of all because they were jammed, and then shut down by the authorities, so they cannot phone anyone to tell them what has happened. What can they do to prevent themselves from being wrongly blamed for the explosions? What would you do in that situation?
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He does not provide a shred of evidence for the jammed phone network and neither does Mr Ridley-Duff. It is true that the moblie network suffered overload, but that did not really kick in until around 10:00am. There are accounts of survivors being evacuated from the tube 50 minutes after the bombs went off and then placing mobile calls to their partners, relatives or workplace to tell them that they were OK. There would have been ample time for the four to have contacted somebody. It is true that City of London Police restricted access to one network, 02, but that did not happen until noon. And then there are the landlines. Is the claim that they were all down too?

One more problem with the bombers as Peter Power's dupes. Did they tell anybody that they were to take part in a terrorist simulation in London? It's not an everyday occurence for three Yorkshire muslims and worthy of some gossip, I would expect. When two of them were tricked into making martyrdom videos, did either of them say to anyone "guess what I did today - I made a martyrdom video for a terrorist simulation I'm going to be invoved with". No, I don't think they did.
 
sleahead said:
In order to move the action to Canary Wharf, Hill tries to explain away the obvious action someone placed in his scenario would take: telephone family, friends or anyone trustworthy and explain how they had been 'set up'.

He does not provide a shred of evidence for the jammed phone network and neither does Mr Ridley-Duff. It is true that the moblie network suffered overload, but that did not really kick in until around 10:00am. There are accounts of survivors being evacuated from the tube 50 minutes after the bombs went off and then placing mobile calls to their partners, relatives or workplace to tell them that they were OK. There would have been ample time for the four to have contacted somebody. It is true that City of London Police restricted access to one network, 02, but that did not happen until noon. And then there are the landlines. Is the claim that they were all down too?
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Indeed. Perhaps Hill has come convincement that people are so wedded to their mobile that they wouldn't dream of using a payphone? As per my previously mentioned blog, I was getting telephone calls and texts in north london, but crucially some of them were from the mobiles of friends who had made it into central london, including one working near Warren Sreet and another near Paddington. The network restriction requested by City of London police was, of course, only for a one mile radius around Aldgate.

One more problem with the bombers as Peter Power's dupes. Did they tell anybody that they were to take part in a terrorist simulation in London? It's not an everyday occurence for three Yorkshire muslims and worthy of some gossip, I would expect. When two of them were tricked into making martyrdom videos, did either of them say to anyone "guess what I did today - I made a martyrdom video for a terrorist simulation I'm going to be invoved with". No, I don't think they did.
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And, of course, if Power was in the habit of sure hiring for his work, you'd think that at least one person previously employed would have said something by now.
 
8den said:
Oh thats a poor show. You couldn't have picked a better English detective for the poor man?

The Sweeney? Sherlock Holmes? Taggart? Gene Hunt? Christ even Bergerac...
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How DARE you leave out Peter Whimsy?
 
Five Red Herrings?

Dammit, I spotted something about a high-profile murder in Brookman's Park in the 1980s that hinged on the railway timetables, and the fact that the victim didn't have a copy of the new autumn timetable when she left on her journey into London. I didn't call Crimewatch because I couldn't believe the investigators hadn't spotted it themselves. If I'd called, they'd have found the body weeks before it actually came to light. I don't think they ever realised what had probably happened - that the victim decided to walk from the preceding station because she caught a non-stopping train, and was murdered on the line path.

Rolfe.
 
8den said:
Oh thats a poor show. You couldn't have picked a better English detective for the poor man?

The Sweeney? Sherlock Holmes? Taggart? Gene Hunt? Christ even Bergerac...
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DI Monkfish.
 
8den said:
Oh thats a poor show. You couldn't have picked a better English detective for the poor man?

The Sweeney? Sherlock Holmes? Taggart? Gene Hunt? Christ even Bergerac...
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Well, in light of my avatar, I would have to say...

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The Amazing Detective Potato!
 
Rolfe said:
I didn't call Crimewatch because I couldn't believe the investigators hadn't spotted it themselves.
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Yeah, I was going through the files of The Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/ and saw a couple that should've been easy IDs but I couldn't believe the investigators hadn't made the same obvious connections. I assume they did and still came up snake eyes.
 
Law - of course - operates on the conceit that an objective reality can be both accessed and perceived. But what you are talking - in effect - is about consistency or inconsistency with your theory of reality. We have different theories (at the moment), so there is room for discussion.
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And here folks is why I despise "Post Modernism" and "Decontructionism" so much. It's simply an attempt to throw reality out the window for ideological reasons.
 
akama1 said:
Well written piece. I enjoyed reading that
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I'd like to echo the above.

I moved to London two weeks before the bombing, Into a flat just around the corner from Seven Sisters Station. Just before moving to London I had made a contact with sky news, and my first call for work was with them. I started working as a freelance video editor for Sky three days before the bombing, I had worked the night before, came home about the hour before the bombs went off, got woken up by frantic friends a few hours later, and spent about 100 quid, and 5 hours getting from Tottenham to Isleworth for my shift that night. Where because I hadn't been issued with a freelancer pass yet, I was refused entry for half an hour. I spent the night reviewing and editing the footage for the morning news. Before stumbling onto the underground as one of the first passengers on the network and heading home.

I only say this because I was a freelancer, with hours of experience and yet I was one of six people able to freely access all the material on Sky News' server.

I really liked your piece IA, it was human personal and educational and brought the event back in very vivid terms. I'd recommend (if you've not read it) http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/ Rachel was on the Picadilly Line, injured in the bombing, and has become a leading member of the victims demanding an independent inquiry. On the back of her work with the victims, combined with her scathing contempt for the conspiraloonies she's been stalked, faced false accusations of being a Zionist agent, she's had people track her home address, her family.

Going back to your blog I see to Daniels talk at the Indian YMCA. That was back in Autumn 2007 yes? In fact the talk occured during one of the mass tube strikes that year. Daniel had the audacity to proclaim that the entire transport strike was designed to thwart his YMCA meeting. His megalomania and paranoia is breathtaking. Hundreds of millions damaged, tens of millions of people massively inconvenienced all to stop a few hundred people tops turning up at a talk at a YMCA.

I only heard about the talk that night I was working on Charlotte street parallel to the YMCA, I'd have love to have gone.

It's an excellent essay IA. Citizen Journalism at it's best.
 
brodski said:
Your complaint that Taggart cannot be classified as a portrayal of an English detective- of course - operates on the conceit that an objective reality can be both accessed and perceived.

Apparently.
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Try this argument in a Glasgow pub. I'll be outside ringing up your ambulance.
 
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dudalb said:
And here folks is why I despise "Post Modernism" and "Decontructionism" so much. It's simply an attempt to throw reality out the window for ideological reasons.
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A couple years back I helped a colleague in the UK with a journal article. After a few go-rounds he chuckled and noted that I was "a typical American historian." I WTF'd and he explained that American historians, in general, are far less concerned with theory and pay more attention to "what really happened" while European historians are more interested in the theories of why something occurred. It's an over-simplification, but I think he's generally correct. I've read a few histories by European scholars and wondered just whatthehell they were going on about.

As for out tinfoiled friend from the UK, I don't take seriously the opinion of anyone who takes John Hill seriously (not to mention Alex Jones).
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Why? Would the patrons of a Glasgow pub even understand what he was talking about?
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Doesn't matter, I'm sure that if I said it with the wrong accent in the wrong tone of voice someone would try to forcibly deconstruct my meta-narrative.
 
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