3 dead in central Fresno shooting spree

[Graham2001]

The Fresno Police are treating it as a Hate Crime...

Local authorities said they don’t believe the attack was an act of terrorism but are investigating it as a hate crime.


“If in fact he’s lashing out at white people — white males in this case — that would constitute a hate crime,” Dyer said. “We believe it is a hate crime, definitely a hate crime.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html

 

[theprestige]

Must be part of that massive wave...

 

[fuelair]

The Fresno Police are treating it as a Hate Crime...



http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html

Silly me, but I would call any act of terrorism to by default be a Hate Crime!!!!!!!

 

[fuelair]

Of course not, "Black people can't be racist."

Yes they can. It's a well defined word that describes a specific way of thinking and acting. If the foo *****, wear it!!!!!

 

[Mark F]

I am certain the national MSM will be all over this, especially if the suspect is a Muslim. He did yell "Allahu Akhbar" when being arrested.

Fox at least.

 

[Civet]

Infowars is mainstream media now. They were, of course, all over this.

 

[bytewizard]

Fox at least.

While CNN had zero minutes of on air coverage. They were too busy covering the Bill O'Reilly story. And the A.P., rather than reporting the gunman's literal words, instead reported the gunman as saying "God is great". Why not "Dios es grande"?

 

[ahhell]

Funny the first and only news story I heard about this they quoted some official as saying, "this is definitely not terror related." It is probably just a random nut job with a racist ideology informing his nuttiness but its nice to know its definitely not terrorism.

 

[William Parcher]

And the A.P., rather than reporting the gunman's literal words, instead reported the gunman as saying "God is great".

I'm skeptical. Got an AP link to back this up?

 

[bytewizard]

I'm skeptical. Got an AP link to back this up?

AP's own website

 

[William Parcher]

AP's own website

Thanks. What is the significance? Are people suggesting that AP is intentionally trying to convince readers that the killer had not converted to Islam?

 

[332nd]

From what I've heard he sounds like a 5 percenter* who went all the way nuts.

*Offshoot of the Nation of Islam. Full of numerology & symbolism.

 

[mgidm86]

AP's own website

We deleted a tweet about a Fresno slaying suspect shouting "God is great." It failed to note he said it in Arabic. A new tweet is upcoming.

...while he was shooting people. He said Allahu Akhbar while he was shooting people (or after I can't recall). Don't forget that part. Ya, that is a big "mistake" AP.

 

[William Parcher]

Did AP do that intentionally, or was it poor writing/editing, or what?

 

[bytewizard]

Did AP do that intentionally, or was it poor writing/editing, or what?

I'm leaning toward intentional, as I find it hard to believe the frigging AP would accidentally quote "God is great" when that is not what was said by the shooter. The arresting officer is the one who stated the shooter said "Allahu Ahkbar". He did not use the English translation, only the AP did that.

 

[William Parcher]

I'm leaning toward intentional, as I find it hard to believe the frigging AP would accidentally quote "God is great" when that is not what was said by the shooter. The arresting officer is the one who stated the shooter said "Allahu Ahkbar". He did not use the English translation, only the AP did that.

Ok, so what is the purpose of the intent? What does AP gain by doing that?

 

[Aepervius]

I'm leaning toward intentional, as I find it hard to believe the frigging AP would accidentally quote "God is great" when that is not what was said by the shooter. The arresting officer is the one who stated the shooter said "Allahu Ahkbar". He did not use the English translation, only the AP did that.

It is what the shooter said, translated and that can sometimes be lost in the hurry to publish. You don't need to attribute malice to such a simple error, when stupidity is enough.

 

[bytewizard]

Ok, so what is the purpose of the intent? What does AP gain by doing that?

One possibility is to not besmirch the religion of peace and stir up anti Muslim hostility. Another might be to make it seem a right wing Christian Fundamentalist carried out the killings if all you did was read the AP wire. After all, how many Islamic terrorists have yelled out "God is great" when carrying out their mission(s)?

 

[Mark F]

It is what the shooter said, translated and that can sometimes be lost in the hurry to publish. You don't need to attribute malice to such a simple error, when stupidity is enough.

That and American's - being largely ignorant - may not know what "Allah Akbar" means.

 

[bytewizard]

It is what the shooter said, translated and that can sometimes be lost in the hurry to publish. You don't need to attribute malice to such a simple error, when stupidity is enough.

Is it the AP's job to report the news as it actually happened, or to translate any non-English words included in the story? If a translation is needed for clarity, why not report what he actually said, with an added translation, just like AP News has on their website right now. Stupidity for sure, malice?