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Samson said:
He gets a reasonable rating as self made.
Mainly because he is a TV star.
He is an entertainer, while Newsom is a self proclaimed serial philanderer and child abuser.
Nothing wrong with that until casting aspersions on another serial philanderer and child protector.
The race is sicker than vomit.
I hope Trump wins for the sake of the Free world despite all.
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Guess who the Free world doesn't want to win? Hint: the one the U.N. General Assembly laughed at in 2018 and at the London NATO summit in 2019.
 
The Atheist said:
Open your eyes, mate.

The people who are cheering him on and excusing his awful performance in this very thread clearly want him to stay because they think he's going to win.
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Quote and cite these "people". If you can't, then that should be your first clue.
 
Stacyhs said:
Ah, yes. The "popular vote". Kind of like Hillary "won" the 2016 election, right?
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Funnily enough, in sensible countries, with sensible political systems that's exactly how it works. UK and USA are outliers in allowing a minority to rule.

Stacyhs said:
Quote and cite these "people". If you can't, then that should be your first clue.
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Look at your own posts. You've defended Joe and clearly want him to remain as candidate, because you think he'll win.
 
The Atheist said:
Funnily enough, in sensible countries, with sensible political systems that's exactly how it works. UK and USA are outliers in allowing a minority to rule.
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I agree. I've always advocated for a popular vote and to get rid of the electoral cottage which I find hugely unfair.

The Atheist said:
Look at your own posts. You've defended Joe and clearly want him to remain as candidate, because you think he'll win.
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You've neither quoted nor cited any of these alleged people, including me.

I know what I've written; clearly you don't. I've never said I want him to remain as the candidate. What I have said is that he IS the candidate and we have two choices: him or Trump. I've said since the beginning that I wish the Dems had a younger candidate. I've also said that I fear that Trump will win and it scares me to death.
 
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I just watched a news CBS news video with Ilhan Omar right now as well as a pre debate speech with Bernie Sanders. They both made good cases for Prez Biden so with Her endorsement I am going to vote straight donkey ticket at this point.
 
I just watched a news CBS news video with Ilhan Omar right now as well as a pre debate speech with Bernie Sanders. They both made good cases for Prez Biden so with her endorsement I am going to vote straight donkey ticket at this point.
 
Craig4 said:
Where are the Americans claiming that **** is a billionaire? I only hear that from Trump supporters and we all know what their word is worth.
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There are better questions, I think. For example, why should we care about whether he actually is a billionaire or not? It's not like how rich he is honestly matters to how well he would do the job.

There are tangentially relevant things to that that do reflect on how he handles things, of course. His long history of lying about how valuable his property is and having been caught at that. His history of bankruptcies and screwing over nigh everyone. That just leaving all that money that was funneled to him and that he inherited in a fund would have probably left him much, much richer than he is.

If we do let it into the conversation, though, I would think that it speaks more to how out of touch he is with the average American citizen, as he's demonstrated over and over with his ignorance of things like... how supermarkets work.
 
The Atheist said:
...they think he's going to win.
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That's not what you said in the previous post, or even later in the same one:
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those of you who are so sure he's going to win
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If someone is sure he's going to win, it's free money.
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Pixel42 said:
What I find hard to believe is that someone who was such a terrible businessman that he failed to make a profit running a casino - twice - has ever been a billionaire, no matter how generous his father was in funding him and bailing him out when he screwed up.
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To be fair, that was the story that's been built up about him by everybody since the 1980s, including those who didn't like him. Remember, that was the main thing he was known for at all before running for office in 2016 (he had tried before but failed so it had gone mostly unnoticed), and his Presidency was brought to us more by wealth-story-spinners like Robin Leach than by anything Trump did himself. There was no sign of the contrary to the general public until the last few years.

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Where are the Americans claiming that **** is a billionaire? I only hear that from Trump supporters
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Weirder yet, why is his wealth or lack of it the main part people have responded to from the post that brought it up? That post was using his wealth to try to prove that he must not be stupid because obviously there's no way a stupid person could be wealthy. That general principle is the far more egregious bit of crap to flush there, not its specific applicability or inapplicability to any individual.
 
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MinnesotaBrant said:
I just watched a news CBS news video with Ilhan Omar right now as well as a pre debate speech with Bernie Sanders. They both made good cases for Prez Biden so with her endorsement I am going to vote straight donkey ticket at this point.
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I expect that by tomorrow you'll have yet another ridiculous reason to change your mind again.
 
Stacyhs said:
That isn't about who won the debate; it's referencing whether Biden should be running in the first place.
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Those two subjects are now inextricably linked, or are classic far-right media organisations like HuffPo just revelling in the awful performance by Joe?

https://www.huffpost.com/

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You seem awfully determined to convince me that Trump "won" the debate. Why? I'm not trying to convince you or anyone that Biden won it.
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It's 100% clear Biden lost. Whether or not Trump won comes down to who came out on top and that was Trump.

If one candidate retains support and the other loses it, who won?
 
CarbShark said:
********. Where does this come from?
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You'll probably learn along the way that, when employed by certain users, terms like ''child abuser" or "destroyer of western values and fabric of humanity" is a reference to their position on trans issues.

Trans issues is one of those subjects on the forum that is fairly quickly whisked away as being off-topic when not in it's designated thread so posters who fixate on the topic must find some oblique way of referencing it.
 
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