2018 US Senate Elections Thread

[The Don]

Florida senate race, new poll from Florida Atlantic University:

Scott (R) : 44%
Nelson (D, incumbent) : 40%

Not to pay much attention to it because of a lot of problems. To name three, from a sample of 1,000, 190 didn't vote in 2016. The quotas for Democrats and Republicans are equal, set in 340 and almost equally distributed by gender. The presidential vote in 2016 is strongly skewed towards Trump.

By any reasonable adjustment to its results, the election continues to be a toss-up.

Which is why talk of a blue wave is, at best, rather optimistic IMO.

I think that unless something remarkable happens between now and the election, the Democratic Party will do well to retain 48 senators and make small gains in the house but not enough to get anywhere near a majority there.

"Something remarkable" would be something like an outstandingly popular new set of policies, or a picture of President Trump in manacles being led of to jail.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Which is why talk of a blue wave is, at best, rather optimistic IMO.

I think that unless something remarkable happens between now and the election, the Democratic Party will do well to retain 48 senators and make small gains in the house but not enough to get anywhere near a majority there.

"Something remarkable" would be something like an outstandingly popular new set of policies, or a picture of President Trump in manacles being led of to jail.

I agree a 100%.

And if Democrats believe someone like Joe Biden is the best kind of candidate they have to offer in 2020, then they can forget the White House for one whole generation.

In the end it all will be a "it's the economy, stupid" kind of thing. Let's wait for the next bubble to burst.

 

[The Don]

I agree a 100%.

And if Democrats believe someone like Joe Biden is the best kind of candidate they have to offer in 2020, then they can forget the White House for one whole generation.

Whilst talk of the 2020 Presidential election is clearly OT for this thread, I think that the Democratic Party needs to acknowledge and address the fact that the party leadership, and in particular key individuals like Biden, Sanders, the Clintons, Warren, Pelosi et al have been around for years, decades even.

By all means keep them around for their sage advice but people whose political schooling took place in the 70's and 80's shouldn't be the driving force behind a party looking to the future today.

Barack Obama could have, and should have, ushered in a new generation (or two) of Democratic Party leaders but for some reason the same people ended up with their hands on the tiller instead.

At the moment the situation seems oddly reversed from expectation. The so-called progressive party led by old-stagers seems keen on retaining the status quo as at 2015-16 whereas the conservative party seems determined to throw the baby out with the bathwater by causing massive upheaval and being led by political neophytes.

In the end it all will be a "it's the economy, stupid" kind of thing. Let's wait for the next bubble to burst.

That's my view too. The only thing that will dislodge the GOP from power is an economic crash. The electorate have repeatedly shown that they don't care about political propriety any more or personal responsibilities or personal values - the kinds of things that could have brought about change in the past - only whether they are being hit in the pocket.

 

[dudalb]

That's my view too. The only thing that will dislodge the GOP from power is an economic crash. The electorate have repeatedly shown that they don't care about political propriety any more or personal responsibilities or personal values - the kinds of things that could have brought about change in the past - only whether they are being hit in the pocket.

At least you are being honest in your contempt for the American People.

 

[Dr. Keith]

At least you are being honest in your contempt for the American People.

Have we not earned it?

 

[dudalb]

Have we not earned it?

So let's admit democracy is a failure and talk about what should replace it?

 

[Dr. Keith]

So let's admit democracy is a failure and talk about what should replace it?

Is that what you read? If so, that is on you, not me or The Don.

 

[aleCcowaN]

At least you are being honest in your contempt for the American People.

Yes, they are too big to fail.

 

[logger]

Yes, they are too big to fail.

Smart enough not to fail. Not all countries can handle it.

 

[Trebuchet]

Thread needs a bump! And I haven't kept up, other than seeing that Mark "Appalachian Trail" Sanford has been primaried out of his seat. I should try to do a bit of research today.

 

[Trebuchet]

Here is the Republican candidate for Senate in Virginia, who is totally not a racist.

 

[Trebuchet]

Then there's this genius in Minnesota.

 

[logger]

I agree a 100%.

And if Democrats believe someone like Joe Biden is the best kind of candidate they have to offer in 2020, then they can forget the White House for one whole generation.

The courts will also be completely lost by the loser left.

In the end it all will be a "it's the economy, stupid" kind of thing. Let's wait for the next bubble to burst.

Now this is hilarious. Why dont them Dems just come up with good ideas people want. What you’re waiting for is just going give you defeat.

 

[zorro99]

Here is the Republican candidate for Senate in Virginia, who is totally not a racist.

Corey Stewart will get his butt kicked in Virginia.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Corey Stewart will get his butt kicked in Virginia.

I have no doubt. The only entertainment value here is whether someone actually just handed Trump a list of people he had to send Tweets about and he'll now step back a little or if he actively supports him. On the one hand, he hates the Dem in the race, of course and that's worth a lot of thumb-pressing activity for DJT. On the other, though, Trump hates losers and he's on a bad streak in that regards so probably would be better off if he just shuts up. (Not that either - being better off or shutting up - seems to really ever guide him.)

 

[logger]

Here is the Republican candidate for Senate in Virginia, who is totally not a racist.

Ah yes, people who don’t disavow their past, certainly because they were defeated must be marked for defeat themselves. How typically left.

No mention of Obama’s anti semitism friends or the Clintons segregationist hero’s.

 

[logger]

I have no doubt. The only entertainment value here is whether someone actually just handed Trump a list of people he had to send Tweets about and he'll now step back a little or if he actively supports him. On the one hand, he hates the Dem in the race, of course and that's worth a lot of thumb-pressing activity for DJT. On the other, though, Trump hates losers and he's on a bad streak in that regards so probably would be better off if he just shuts up. (Not that either - being better off or shutting up - seems to really ever guide him.)

The only entertainment value is if he wins leaving leftists to scream at the sky.

 

[Craig4]

The only entertainment value is if he wins leaving leftists to scream at the sky.

Don't be silly. It's funny to stomp on bigots, especially if they are Trump's bigots.

 

[logger]

Don't be silly. It's funny to stomp on bigots, especially if they are Trump's bigots.

Yeah we thought the same of Obama’s bigots, it didn’t work. But you do have the media on your side.

 

[Craig4]

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

This is a pretty ugly map for Republicans. The only real bright spot they have is Florida and even there's it's pretty tight. Scott needs to push hard to distance himself from Trump to keep his lead. I lived in Florida for about half of his last term. He's got some cross over appeal for signing gun legislation the NRA opposed after Parkland. He earned some respect for his response to the Pulse nightclub shooting and hurricanes Irma and Hermine.

Other than that it's pretty bleak for the Republicans. Trump might have finally found a way to galvanize Hispanic voter turnout in Texas and put that Senate seat in play.