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2018 mid-term election

Sideroxylon said:
Yes, there are a lot of racists in Australia with fears that right wing politicians can play to. Is it worse that they try to dress it up in respectability when they argue that locking up asylum seekers, including children, on remote islands is done to stop people risking their lives on a boat journey? Trump is a bonehead with no processing stage between raw ideas and his mouth. His caravan xenophobic fear mongering is absurd but its effectiveness is concerning. A lot of us in Australia embrace multiculturalism but I am scared that what is happening in America could take a hold here.

I hope the coming polls can be a major setback to the politics of hate in America and Australia for the sake of both allies.
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This kind of rambling obviously comes from someone who hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. You admit your own bewilderment of US politics. Most people who admit they're naive on topics don't pontificate on them. You should follow suit.
 
WilliamSeger said:
There's something very racist about how facts have always been used by racists to produce racist stereotypes. The most common method is to focus on selected facts to create stereotypes around an implicit nadir fallacy for the group they view as inferior, i.e. implying that the lowest individual performance is representative of the whole group, but an implicit apex fallacy for the supposed superior race, taking highest accomplishments as representative. Even if the facts are accurate (which should always be suspect), it's those fallacies, often subconscious, that are the problem. And then, regardless of the accuracy of a stereotype, it's always fallacious to assume that a given individual matches that stereotype. Facts are useless without logic.
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This is the sixth time on this forum, someone has claimed, unprompted, other races are inferior to whites.
 
Baylor said:
This kind of rambling obviously comes from someone who hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. You admit your own bewilderment of US politics. Most people who admit they're naive on topics don't pontificate on them. You should follow suit.
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No, I admit to bewilderment of how the leading light of rationality and liberty has fallen into being led by the nose by a bonehead and a party of enablers peddling a ridiculous fear campaign. America has taken a bizarre and tragic turn.
 
Baylor said:
Even the idiots at Snopes don't try to wiggle their way out of this one.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-received-ellis-island-award-in-1986/
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"However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others)."

I'd bet that he just donated someone else's money, and I'd want to know if the award ceremony was held in a rented Trump property.
 
WilliamSeger said:
"However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others)."

I'd bet that he just donated someone else's money, and I'd want to know if the award ceremony was held in a rented Trump property.
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And what did he get it for? In any case it is a feeble argument from authority n the face of his recent track record. People can change for the worse over time. Even some of our forum members.
 
Sideroxylon said:
And what did he get it for? In any case it is a feeble argument from authority n the face of his recent track record. People can change for the worse over time. Even some of our forum members.
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The article says 80 people got it, so almost certainly is was for a big donation. It's hard to imagine why anyone would have nominated him for such an award, given his discriminatory renting practices at the time, and it could be Donnie made a donation to counteract bad press. I hope that at least some of the donations went for something other than fancy dinners, anyway.
 
WilliamSeger said:
"However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others)."

I'd bet that he just donated someone else's money, and I'd want to know if the award ceremony was held in a rented Trump property.
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I'll only say that I'd never consider Dolt 45 to be at all patriotic, and that's the first thing on the list for the award.
 
Mumbles said:
I'll only say that I'd never consider Dolt 45 to be at all patriotic, and that's the first thing on the list for the award.
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You'd think that there would be at least one story from the time that would support a nomination, huh. Maybe he got it for preferring immigrant mistresses?
 
Baylor said:
This kind of rambling obviously comes from someone who hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. You admit your own bewilderment of US politics. Most people who admit they're naive on topics don't pontificate on them. You should follow suit.
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Ok so why are you here?
 
MikeG said:
The race in Spokane looks an interesting one, with a white supremacist bible-bashing incumbent with links to Bundy recently circulating a document about christian holy war. He thinks journalists are "dirty godless hateful people". We laugh at nutjobs like that here, but in Washington State they somehow get elected into positions of power. There must be a whole lot of utterly dreadful people in Spokane.
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Somehow the Pacific Northwest became neo-nazi central. Although the Spokane area isn't heavily treed, I harbor suspicions that the trees draw people who want to hide from society. By the way, the city of Spokane is a blue dot in a sea of red.

(I essentially live in deep red eastern WA state these days. Even the people who aren't nuts are nuts.)
 
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