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2018 mid-term election

Baylor said:
Even the idiots at Snopes don't try to wiggle their way out of this one.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-received-ellis-island-award-in-1986/
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”However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others).”

Anyway, “idiots,” yeah. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

ETA: ninja’d by WilliamSeger, and many other ninjas.
 
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acbytesla said:
So? We can do better than those other countries...so why shouldn't we?

If we can hand a trillion dollars in tax cuts to the top 1%. BTW, I love how Trump said he wasn't going to take the salary. But he sure took I care of that with the way he has been taking emoluments and the over billion dollars his family is saving through the tax cuts.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
So you dismiss access to housing, health care, education as what? Not rights? Not important?

But criticizing the government, now that's a real right when comparing countries. :rolleyes:
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yes, we can and should do better, I'm a fan of social spending and taking care of each other. If a country is able to do a much better job of providing for its citizens in terms of health care and housing, that doesn't give them any special get out of jail free card for denying their citizens basic human rights.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
”However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others).”

Anyway, “idiots,” yeah. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

ETA: ninja’d by WilliamSeger, and many other ninjas.
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I'm only interested in the facts, the pertinent part where it says Trump was honored with an award for his commitment to tolerance and diversity. The uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories of pseudointellectuals don't interest me.
 
Cabbage said:
And he was talking about someone else (note the use of the word "they" as opposed to "me" or "I").

You're not very good at this reading thing, are you??? LOL!!!
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And that someone else is imaginary, only existing in the mind of William Seger
 
Baylor said:
I'm only interested in the facts, the pertinent part where it says Trump was honored with an award for his commitment to tolerance and diversity. The uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories of pseudointellectuals don't interest me.
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you realize that Trump is on record for crashing an award ceremony to make himself look like a great donor when in fact he didn't give a cent?

He also gave himself business-awards and has a fake "Man of the Year" cover in hanging in his Club.

So it comes down not the credibility of the Award and its jury, not to Trump himself, who cannot be trusted when it comes to Awards.
 
Baylor said:
I'm only interested in the facts, the pertinent part where it says Trump was honored with an award for his commitment to tolerance and diversity. The uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories of pseudointellectuals don't interest me.
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If someone has honoured Trump for his commitment to tolerance and diversity, all that says is that there are racist **** -wits out there with a sense of irony or humour.
 
Stacyhs said:
Ah, yes...one honor back in 1986 when he was far more liberal than he claims to be today.
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I linked to Jesse Jackson praising Trump for his commitment to diversity, inclusion, and benefiting underrepresented minorities and you unsurprisingly ignored it. Trump was the first club owner in Palm Beach to allow in gay couples. This was in the 1980's, long before pseudoskeptics jumped on the LGBT and "tolerance" bandwagons. In the early 2000's, Trump campaigned for amending the civil rights act to include outlawing discrimination based on sexual orientation, this was while Hillary Clinton was advocating for a hate-sponsored legislation to ban same sex-marriage.


Stacyhs said:
When he was pro-choice, pro-universal health care, pro-Hillary Clinton, pro-assault weapons ban, pro-legalizing drugs, and pro-a 14.24% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth of $10 Million or more. You do know he was also a also a registered Independent in the late nineties and a Democrat from 2001-2009?

That man swings more ways than a rope in a windstorm.
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Current year. It's the current year. Past current years are different from the present current year. Pseudoskeptics claim to be "on the right side of history" when all they do is take social cues on what to be outraged by next. Leaders often take the position of what's unpopular at the time. Followers, like self-styled skeptics, take the path of least resistance, and are intimidated by the slightest bit of shaming.
 
MikeG said:
If someone has honoured Trump for his commitment to tolerance and diversity, all that says is that there are racist **** -wits out there with a sense of irony or humour.
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This is a very cruel and hateful thing to say about America's civil rights leaders.
 
WilliamSeger said:
FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! Vote Republican! FEAR!!!

GOP Floods Airwaves with Ads About Crime

What a miserable and pathetic excuse for an ideology you have become, GOP.
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I wonder if people, even conservatives, are getting fear fatigue. There's a chance people will get weary of being told bogeymen are hiding behind every corner when things are really going pretty OK - and when the most fearsome incidents recently have come from domestic right-wingers.

The negativity might not be such a great strategy. We'll see.

My fear is more about pre-existing conditions, continued attempts to stir up bigotry and paranoia, cozy relationships with adversaries, tense relationships with allies, eroding of rights for women, ruinous policies on climate change, increased pollution, widening prosperity gaps etc. Thugs and smallpox not so much.
 
I feel like going to the polls (already voted) just so I can see if any of Trump's white supremacist minions are doing anything to try to to intimidate or discourage non-white voters. I have no idea where this might actually be needed. Is it too late to ask local Democratic Party officials whether, and where, such activity might be needed?

My planned activism did not amount to much, but I'd like to give people rides to polls etc. But it's so late I might just get in the way.

Also want to take Mom as she doesn't like Trump and might vote Dem, but her drivers license expired 8 years ago and she hasn't voted in a few years. She is a white 94-year-old Republican so maybe she can cast a question ballot?
 
Baylor said:
I linked to Jesse Jackson praising Trump for his commitment to diversity, inclusion, and benefiting underrepresented minorities and you unsurprisingly ignored it. Trump was the first club owner in Palm Beach to allow in gay couples. This was in the 1980's, long before pseudoskeptics jumped on the LGBT and "tolerance" bandwagons. In the early 2000's, Trump campaigned for amending the civil rights act to include outlawing discrimination based on sexual orientation, this was while Hillary Clinton was advocating for a hate-sponsored legislation to ban same sex-marriage.




Current year. It's the current year. Past current years are different from the present current year. Pseudoskeptics claim to be "on the right side of history" when all they do is take social cues on what to be outraged by next. Leaders often take the position of what's unpopular at the time. Followers, like self-styled skeptics, take the path of least resistance, and are intimidated by the slightest bit of shaming.
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Hahhahah
 
Baylor said:
In the early 2000's, Trump campaigned for amending the civil rights act to include outlawing discrimination based on sexual orientation[...]
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What happened to change his view?

[...] this was while Hillary Clinton was advocating for a hate-sponsored legislation to ban same sex-marriage.
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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ry-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/

July 2004: Clinton spoke on the Senate floor against a proposed federal amendment to ban same-sex marriage.
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Baylor said:
Because it shows he was committed to diversity and inclusion long before skeptics hopped on the bandwagon.
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Throwing around the term skeptic as a pejorative. What kind if a thing is that to do now, UNLoVedRebel?
 
Baylor said:
And that someone else is imaginary, only existing in the mind of William Seger
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William Seger said that racists believe that white people are superior to other races. Such people are not imaginary.

Furthermore, even if so, then Seger would be guilty of lying. He would not be guilty of supremacism, which is what you accused him of.

Not really subtle, Baylor. Another failed attempt to pretend your opponents are racist.
 
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