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2018 mid-term election

There's no more than the most insignificant voter fraud, Baylor. If there was more than that, the right-wing blogosphere would have a whole lot more than one questionable 5 yr old study using 10 yr old data echoing around in there.
 
Trump assigned a commission, headed by Kris Kobach, specifically aimed at uncovering the 'massive voter fraud' that he claimed took place in the 2016 election. And what did they find? Nada. Zilch. Rien.

As Skeptic Ginger said, if there was any proof of this voter fraud, we'd be hearing about it from Trump every time he opened that cesspool he calls a mouth.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
There's no more than the most insignificant voter fraud, Baylor. If there was more than that, the right-wing blogosphere would have a whole lot more than one questionable 5 yr old study using 10 yr old data echoing around in there.
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Nevermind the blogosphere! The think tanks would make sure it was common knowledge to all the Fox viewers. We'd be drowning in Hannity clips about it.
 
kellyb said:
Nevermind the blogosphere! The think tanks would make sure it was common knowledge to all the Fox viewers. We'd be drowning in Hannity clips about it.
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But, but, but...Dear Leader TOLD us there are millions of illegals voting and it's why he didn't win the popular vote! He wouldn't lie to us. Would he?
 
Walmart, the conscience of America, is demanding that the nutcase from Mississippi who's into lynching return their campaign contribution.
 
Baylor said:
I'll make you a deal. I'll learn what the scientific method is (there, done....since I already knew that) and you read the paper you are commenting on.

Oooooo....if you read the paper you'd realize they didn't ignore it. They wrote an appendix about it (seriously, how lazy can you get.) They provided evidence that the respondents did answer accurately. Since getting the last word is not part of the scientific method (see told you I knew it) there was no need for them to respond to something they already debunked.
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Yeah, they addressed it by saying they were ignoring it, offering very dodgy reasons for doing so. They stand by their data points and refuse to run a model that assumes anything other than their own "best guesses".
 
varwoche said:
Walmart, the conscience of America, is demanding that the nutcase from Mississippi who's into lynching return their campaign contribution.
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What she said only makes sense if lynchings are thing that she wouldn't normally be into, were in not for affect the gentleman has on her.

Which doesn't really make what she said justifiable and her response to it is utterly moronic, but the conceit of the 'joke' rests on the premise that public hangings are inherently unpleasant to her somehow.
 
tyr_13 said:
What she said only makes sense if lynchings are thing that she wouldn't normally be into, were in not for affect the gentleman has on her.

Which doesn't really make what she said justifiable and her response to it is utterly moronic, but the conceit of the 'joke' rests on the premise that public hangings are inherently unpleasant to her somehow.
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What she said was that, if he invited her to a public hanging, she would be in the front row. Maybe she would want a better view of one of his hangings than a normal hanging. For those, she's willing to stand farther back.
 
tyr_13 said:
What she said only makes sense if lynchings are thing that she wouldn't normally be into, were in not for affect the gentleman has on her.

Which doesn't really make what she said justifiable and her response to it is utterly moronic, but the conceit of the 'joke' rests on the premise that public hangings are inherently unpleasant to her somehow.
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I don't cut an iota of slack based on that flimsy excuse.

As a state senator, she attempted to have a highway named after Jefferson Davis. A picture has emerged showing her wearing Confederate artifacts. Yeah right, that "jest" didn't reflect her noxious beliefs one bit. :rolleyes:
 
varwoche said:
I don't cut an iota of slack based on that flimsy excuse.

As a state senator, she attempted to have a highway named after Jefferson Davis. A picture has emerged showing her wearing Confederate artifacts. Yeah right, that "jest" didn't reflect her noxious beliefs one bit. :rolleyes:
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Trump earlier today said of Cindy Hyde-Smith:

"Cindy Hyde-Smith is a spectacular woman. She's a great senator," the president said as he embarked on a trip to Florida for the holidays. "She came in and she's done a fantastic job in a short period of time."
Trump was asked about the controversy surrounding Hyde-Smith. She has been criticized for both her recent comments that she'd be glad to attend a "public hanging" for a friend and a video that appeared to show Hyde-Smith supporting voter suppression.

"She made a statement, which I know that she feels really bad about it, and was just sort of said in jest," Trump said. "She's a tremendous woman and it's a shame that she has to go through this."
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(USA Today)
 
Mia Love has lost to McAdams in Utah, so that's 39 flipped seats now, with a possibility of one more yet to be resolved. The total votes counted so far is over 110M, compared to 87M cast in the Tea Party wave of 2010. Republican prospects for 2020 are looking very dim. :)
 
WilliamSeger said:
Mia Love has lost to McAdams in Utah, so that's 39 flipped seats now, with a possibility of one more yet to be resolved. The total votes counted so far is over 110M, compared to 87M cast in the Tea Party wave of 2010. Republican prospects for 2020 are looking very dim. :)
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Well, I'm torn on this one. Knowing that the House GOP Caucus would have her front and center in numerous PR photos, the thought of her being there as a thorn in Trump's side was a concession to the GOP holding the seat.

Love was a star on Fox and in out-of-state rallies. I had checked the last couple of elections on pro rata spending and she paid more per vote than almost any candidate in the country. Utah Republicans were never totally behind her. Fox was.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Mia Love has lost to McAdams in Utah, so that's 39 flipped seats now, with a possibility of one more yet to be resolved. The total votes counted so far is over 110M, compared to 87M cast in the Tea Party wave of 2010. Republican prospects for 2020 are looking very dim. :)
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That resulted in a 49 seat gain with Dems already in control of the house. Gerrymandering is extremely effective.
 
Baylor said:
This is what's called a Snow Job.

It hasn't been debunked. Also learn what sci-hub is and how to use it. It's the current year after all.
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Okay, so here's a debunking for you.

Their table and their conclusion give different levels if accuracy and based on the 19.4 million non-citizens in the US, at the levels of accuracy they quote in their charts (+/-5% at 95% confidence), their sample size in 13% too small to be statistically useful, and it is actually over 50% too small to be accurate to the levels that they give in their discussion (+/-3.5% at 95% confidence), and that isn't even bothering to go into their actual method and assumptions.

Or if you want the short version, they invalidly extrapolated the numbers based on an invalid sample size.

Happy?
 
varwoche said:
Walmart, the conscience of America, is demanding that the nutcase from Mississippi who's into lynching return their campaign contribution.
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"The politician we purchased (so they'll vote the way we want them to, not the way the voters they represent want them to) wasn't what was advertised.


Do politicians come with a money back guarantee after one has purchased them?
 
WilliamSeger said:
Republican prospects for 2020 are looking very dim. :)
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I'll believe that when I see that the Democrats aren't going to just spend two years wasting this opportunity just like before.

Some of the Democrats who just won the latest elections have been talking about progressive legislation they plan to start writing & voting on, which is a good sign. But somehow, although most Democrats don't want Pelosi as Speaker, no others have self-nominated yet, so there's nobody else yet to vote for instead of her. Her influence over other Democrats has faded in unofficial ways, but Speaker is still an influencial seat, and two more years of Pelosi is one of the surest ways to make much of the base give up and pave the way for the Republicans next time.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Mia Love has lost to McAdams in Utah, so that's 39 flipped seats now, with a possibility of one more yet to be resolved. The total votes counted so far is over 110M, compared to 87M cast in the Tea Party wave of 2010. Republican prospects for 2020 are looking very dim. :)
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Yes, I just read that! In a district that is 2/3's Republican.

:thumbsup:
 
Delvo said:
I'll believe that when I see that the Democrats aren't going to just spend two years wasting this opportunity just like before.

Some of the Democrats who just won the latest elections have been talking about progressive legislation they plan to start writing & voting on, which is a good sign. But somehow, although most Democrats don't want Pelosi as Speaker, no others have self-nominated yet, so there's nobody else yet to vote for instead of her. Her influence over other Democrats has faded in unofficial ways, but Speaker is still an influencial seat, and two more years of Pelosi is one of the surest ways to make much of the base give up and pave the way for the Republicans next time.
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The idea that a Democratic House can get progressive legislation passed into law while Republicans control the Senate and Executive branches requires ignoring how our government works.
 
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