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2012 Debates

Rebel Yellow said:
The horses and bayonets comment was the greatest most brilliant most condescending destruction of the republican "more military spending = stronger military" talking point I have ever seen.
"We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines. And so the question is not a game of Battleship, where we’re counting ships. It’s what are our capabilities."
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davefoc said:
I noticed this also. As I mentioned above, it seemed like Romney found Obama's views so reasonable that the only way he could distance himself from them was to take the looney toons position. The danger of that for Romney was exactly what happened here. Obama made him look like an idiot for taking the looney toons position and deservedly so in my opinion.
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I'd imagine it will come out later, but I'm sure the set-up for this was similar to the reveal on the "...and you're no Jack kennedy..." zinger for the ages. Quayle had been comparing himself to a young JFK for ages and when Lloyd heard about it, he was outraged and commented to his inner circle pretty much what we later heard. All they could do was hope that the opportunity came up and that he'd get just as angry. Ironically, Quayle was actually warned by his handlers going into the debate that he shouldn't go there, but purportedly he was floundering on a question and fell back on his buzzwords, and the rest is history.

As to Mitt - he and the boy scout have been telling this lie for months and it was a pretty foregone conclusion that he'd pull it out, so they must've been sitting around campaign HQ just waiting like cats with cheese-breath in front of the mouse hole. I'd love to have seen the fist bumps and high fives... "Whoot! Bring it Mitt! Attaboy! Wait... wait... Here it comes!"
 
I was amazed at how many things Romney suddenly appeared to agree with Obama upon. And with yet again how different Romney seems. Every time I see him it's like he's acting like a new person.

Obama seems to go from limp to assertive, Romney reminds me of a manic depressive with multiple personality disrorder.

The debate was very boring otherwise. And the thing about Obama attacking Romney was just lame and seemed like he was coached with that phrase as a weapon to use when he saw an opening as if it would "score".

Sadly, most of the people I know who are still undecided seem to excuse Romney's inconsistent behavior for being a willingness to compromise and his far right wing stances in the past were just pandering to pat the right wing on the head and shut them up.

I'm not sure who is going to win at this point, but I know over half of the American people lack any foresight or hindsight and are seemingly eternally stuck in the moment with nothing but the tone of a man's voice and his demeanor to judge a politician on.

We want what we want now, and we don't want to wait on it.

One day maybe we can run our society using the same sense of duty and responsibility we reserve for supposedly living as an "adult". I'd say we're at least out of our toddler years as a species, most of us in our teens now, ready to maybe start shedding our fear of the dark and care about more than what's in front of our face at the immediate moment.

Meanwhile 70,000 American soldiers are waiting to do their duty and come home.
 
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One of the things that hasn't been talked about a lot and that would be a tremendous boost for Obama, if it is true, was the stuff about how they've improved the retraining and job-finding for returning servicemen. If that stands up to scrutiny, it ought to be shouted from the rooftops.
 
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I can't believe idiots in Romney's staff convinced him to "go there" regarding the size of the Navy. That may have been the biggest blunder in all 3 debates. Just galactically stupid.
 
Oh yes, this was hilarious. Maybe Romney needs Sesame Street to teach him some geography.
 

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NoahFence said:
I can't believe idiots in Romney's staff convinced him to "go there" regarding the size of the Navy. That may have been the biggest blunder in all 3 debates. Just galactically stupid.
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I'm going to guess you felt that Romney's "47%" comments doomed him.

Or that being a successful and wealthy capitalist would turn off the voting public.

And now you think that talking about increasing the size of the U.S. military is galactically stupid.

It must be extremely confusing for you to watch Romney commit suicide time and time again, yet continue his upwards trend in the polls. Might be time to step back from the JREF/DailyKos/MSNBC and get some fresh air.
 
Noztradamus said:
But not definitely

In 1916 the combined numbers of the US Army, Army Reserve, National Guard, and US Marines was less than a quarter of a million men. Today there are more officers than that.
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The army discontinued bayonet training 2 years ago. The comparative size of the army now and in 1916 is irrelevant.
 
After seeing portions of the final debate, I found myself quite put off looking at Romney, especially that plastic, insincere smile that was stuck onto his face while he listened to the President.
 
ANTPogo said:
That's during Obama's term!

How can the President gut our military like that?! When the Prussian cavalry comes sweeping out of their trenches, our brave fighting men and women will be defenseless.
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Speaking of which, do we even still train our soldiers in trench warfare? Or is that another thing Obama has screwed up?!
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
In the pre-debate analysis on CNN they were saying that the first debate was the most important one in history. As in ever. As in more important than the Nixon/Kennedy one. (And thus this debate couldn't really mean anything.)

That's when I decided to officially stop listening to the pundits. I had already given up on watching the news shows constantly like I did four years ago. That was just the last nail in the coffin.
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The pundits love to hear themselves talk. Other than that, I don't see much use in them.
 
I liked the Onion's take on it:

Obama suspiciously well-versed on foreign affairs for someone who claims to have been born in America.
 
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