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But AE911T has not asked for a review of the NIST report with input from ATF. They have asked for "a new, truly independent investigation with subpoena power" which will "include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives". The ATF is a government agency, and therefore must be considered to be specifically excluded from AE911T's requested "truly independent" investigation.

So, would you like to fail to defend your next lie, or do you want to go on pretending you can defend this one?

Dave


I really do not get your point, its gibberish talk:boggled:

So you are now saying, Quintiere has asked for a review of the nist report with input from ATF?

If you say yes, you are contradicting yourselve.

If you say no, you are contradicting yourselve.
 
I really do not get your point, its gibberish talk:boggled:

So you are now saying, Quintiere has asked for a review of the nist report with input from ATF?

If you say yes, you are contradicting yourselve.

If you say no, you are contradicting yourselve.

I'll go with option 3: Marokkaan doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
 
Look at what happens to a 20-year-old soccer player when he tweets a personal opinion about 9/11.

Personally, I don't see what a soccer club could possibly think they're going to "investigate", nor why a 9/11 truth comment would be worth an "investigation" -- is 9/11 inquiry criminal now?? Lol. -- nor what authority a soccer club would think they have to launch one. But just the language alone implies an attitude that is so contrary to what most of us regard as everyday democratic rights and freedoms. It's astonishing.

Indeed there is definitely a "thought" police trying to enforce what to believe or not. Not just about 9/11, about many things. At least in the U.S it is not yet mandated by law. Meaning you won't get arrested. Though I'm sure "they" would love to do that. They do make as difficult as possible however. Difficulty with your being shunned..etc. But I think things are starting to slowly change. It will take time no doubt, but I think we can get there.
 
Indeed there is definitely a "thought" police trying to enforce what to believe or not. Not just about 9/11, about many things. At least in the U.S it is not yet mandated by law. Meaning you won't get arrested. Though I'm sure "they" would love to do that.

Who is "they"?

But it's true, employers usually don't like it when their high-profile employees say stupid things in public. There's nothing particularly new or heinous about this. Well, except in the mind of some fringe dweebs with a persecution complex, of course.
 
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Indeed there is definitely a "thought" police trying to enforce what to believe or not. Not just about 9/11, about many things. At least in the U.S it is not yet mandated by law. Meaning you won't get arrested. Though I'm sure "they" would love to do that. They do make as difficult as possible however. Difficulty with your being shunned..etc. But I think things are starting to slowly change. It will take time no doubt, but I think we can get there.

The privately owned Liverpool FC is the Thought Police now?

Isn't it more likely that the club doesn't want nutters sullying its good reputation? Why, yes it is.
 
What a bad example lol. Try again. with another example.


next one for fun

Truther: But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives],

Debunker: But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives],

Marokkaan: the debunker does agree with the truther.

Jrefdebunker: no its not, the debunker believes in natural collapse and the truther believes in cd.

Your humor is missing the funny.
 
Can you name three? From which papers, and which professionals identified them ?

This would be a great thread for you to expound on this.

Didn't think so.

Isn't it interesting that Myriad says she didn't bother clicking on the link provided that lists something like 50 technical articles that support the AETruth position, but somehow she knows what papers are there, and that she's read them, or knows what's in them, and also knows what the "errors" are in them that were supposedly identified by engineering professionals.

But she declines to identify even three of them. This is JREF bedunkerism.
 
Didn't think so.

Isn't it interesting that Myriad says she didn't bother clicking on the link provided that lists something like 50 technical articles that support the AETruth position, but somehow she knows what papers are there, and that she's read them, or knows what's in them, and also knows what the "errors" are in them that were supposedly identified by engineering professionals.

But she declines to identify even three of them. This is JREF bedunkerism.

She is now busy reading the articles, searching for the errors, just wait:rolleyes:
 
Can you please show me where i said it, please place the sentence.

Lets see the points they both agree.


[...]

2. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives],

You listed this as point 2 of the points that you claim Quintiere and AE911T agree on, in response to my calling you out on the lie that they agree.

Dave
 
You listed this as point 2 of the points that you claim Quintiere and AE911T agree on, in response to my calling you out on the lie that they agree.

Dave

2. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives],


And now we will compare it with this sentence, you said that I said it.

Quintiere has asked for a review of the nist report with input from ATF

Hmmm, i guess they don't look alike.

Maybe you have to try another sentence....
 
Marokkan, do you and AE911T concur with Dr. James Quintiere that impact and fire damage are the sole cause of the collapses of the twin towers and WTC7 on 9/11?
 
Don't play stupid. No need for alternative explanations to show that the report doesn't stand.

After 10 years and 1600 architects and engineers weighing in, it is curious that no one has yet presented a better explanation. Why do you think this is so? Do you believe a better explanation can be had? If yes, why has no one so far tried to provide one? What's stopping the 1600?
 
lol so you think ae911truth does not want to have at least an official independent review of the nist reports.

You are really talking gibberish. Ow my...

Lets see the points they both agree.


1. Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

2. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives],

3. I wish that there would be a peer review of this,” he said, referring to the NIST investigation.I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they’ve done; both structurally and from a fire point of view.”


4. In his presentation, Dr. Quintiere also criticized NIST’s repeated failures to formally respond to serious questions raised about its conclusions regarding the WTC building collapses and the process it employed to arrive at those conclusions.

5. I found that throughout your whole investigation it was very difficult to get a clear answer.

6.Dr. Quintiere then presented his and his students’ research that contradicts the NIST report and points to a different cause for the collapses;
comment: Its not about the content of the contradiction, but about the contradiction.

7. And I thought they would put people out on the street and get gumshoe-type information. What prevented all of this?
I think it’s the legal structure that cloaks the Commerce Department and therefore NIST. And so, instead of lawyers as if they were acting on a civil case trying to get depositions and information subpoenaed, those lawyers did the opposite and blocked everything.”


8. In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding.

I googled "Quintiere also criticized NIST’s repeated failures to formally" and found a lot of hits.

You copied and pasted a lengthy tract of text without indicating it's a quote, and providing no reference. You make it look as if this is your own argumentation. But everybody can see that you don't have any own arguments, no own words.

Why can't you cite properly, like most everybody else here?
 
Does a 911 kook ever say anything that isn't just some regurgitation of what they were told on some other 911 kook's website or youtube... If they do, I've yet to see it.
 
Personally, while I think Marokkaan's English is perfectly passable for every day conversation, I am dubious that he is able to fully understand Quintiere's position on the NIST report by reading what he posted.
 
Quintiere? Well, I suppose Marokkaan is working his way through 9/11 Truth history faster than the passage of time itself, so that's a positive. I estimate he'll be fully caught up in the next 4-6 months.
 

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