1.1.1.1

[Finster]

Why is there an install button? There shouldn't be anything to install. Or does that just go to instruction on how to change the setting?

 

[Childlike Empress]

That's probably a little bit (but only a little bit) of an exaggeration. I won't say that I really like it, but I strongly suspect that any NSA agent looking at my information would be in serious danger of dying of boredom.

No, it's not an exaggeration, not even a little bit. Check the Snowden leaks if you don't believe that they are storing everything they can get their fingers on, simply because they can. While saying "don't worry, nobody's looking at your data", which is technically true unless it somehow gets interesting. Your classic "I've got nothing to hide" doesn't cut to the problem. Just imagine the person that wants to run for president in, say, 30 years, with a program that runs against the establishment politics. And the guys at the NSA have access to what this person did just now, in 2018, as a teenager doing silly maybe illegal things and having contact with people they shouldn't, like all teenagers do. And all they did between that and their run for president is an open book for the guys at the NSA. What kind of society would that be?

</preaching>

 

[Childlike Empress]

Why is there an install button? There shouldn't be anything to install. Or does that just go to instruction on how to change the setting?

The latter.

 

[CORed]

Why is there an install button? There shouldn't be anything to install. Or does that just go to instruction on how to change the setting?

My guess would be that the install button changes the settings for you. It's not necessary to install anyting if you know how to change the settings.

 

[CORed]

No, it's not an exaggeration, not even a little bit. Check the Snowden leaks if you don't believe that they are storing everything they can get their fingers on, simply because they can. While saying "don't worry, nobody's looking at your data", which is technically true unless it somehow gets interesting. Your classic "I've got nothing to hide" doesn't cut to the problem. Just imagine the person that wants to run for president in, say, 30 years, with a program that runs against the establishment politics. And the guys at the NSA have access to what this person did just now, in 2018, as a teenager doing silly maybe illegal things and having contact with people they shouldn't, like all teenagers do. And all they did between that and their run for president is an open book for the guys at the NSA. What kind of society would that be?

</preaching>

You're preaching to the choir. I don't like the situation. I just find Google, and the internet in general, useful enough that I don't personally feel the need to go to the trouble to hide.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Tor adds a lot of unavoidable overhead to your web requests especially latency and speed reduction. A DNS server with a privacy focus adds no latency or speed reduction.

Good points. I have never use Tor myself but a friend who does tells me that search engines don't like it. Duckduckgo is OK , Yahoo works sometimes but it throws you on to a random countries version depending on your exit and Google won't even load.

 

[theprestige]

Tor adds a lot of unavoidable overhead to your web requests especially latency and speed reduction. A DNS server with a privacy focus adds no latency or speed reduction.

Potentially it can, though. If 1.1.1.1 can't maintain uptime and response time, they can add latency or even request failures to your requests.

Also, a DNS server doesn't provide even a fraction of the anonymity that Tor does.

 

[psionl0]

I strongly suspect that any NSA agent looking at my information would be in serious danger of dying of boredom.

That is why they try to make it more interesting by twisting an innocuous post on ISF to "inciting racial hatred".

 

[plague311]

Potentially it can, though. If 1.1.1.1 can't maintain uptime and response time, they can add latency or even request failures to your requests.

Also, a DNS server doesn't provide even a fraction of the anonymity that Tor does.

If you're worried enough to use Tor's level of cover then you should really just run your own stuff.

In my personal opinion, Tor is a miserable solution. Again, totally my personal opinion, but the overhead gets me every time. I'm all about security. I encrypt internet traffic, I have notifications and warnings set on my firewall for any intrusion as it's internet facing, I block ads, etc at the WAN, etc., but if you want your traffic covered that much then there are plenty of other options without Tor's overhead.

 

[Andy_Ross]

If you're worried enough to use Tor's level of cover then you should really just run your own stuff.

In my personal opinion, Tor is a miserable solution. Again, totally my personal opinion, but the overhead gets me every time. I'm all about security. I encrypt internet traffic, I have notifications and warnings set on my firewall for any intrusion as it's internet facing, I block ads, etc at the WAN, etc., but if you want your traffic covered that much then there are plenty of other options without Tor's overhead.

But Tor is easy to use.

Even on your Android. Just load the Orbot and Orfox Browse Apps and away yo go.

 

[plague311]

But Tor is easy to use.

Even on your Android. Just load the Orbot and Orfox Browse Apps and away yo go.

I definitely won't argue with you there. I've never even bothered to secure my cell phone outside of normal measures. I use google chrome to navigate, and so on.

I'm probably a terrible example though because I have no fear of being monitored, and while I love my privacy I'm not aggressive about it. I use a VPN that's always active on my cell that pushes through my pfsense at home, and my home network is about as secure as it can be within reason (I even use a physical and 2 virtual firewalls (though one is a vmware appliance)). I run my DNS at home with the DNS being discussed here as a secondary.