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  1. peteweaver

    Steel and Fire

    On the 27th of July 2005 a vessel collided with the offshore Mumbai High North platform, 160 km west of the Mumbai coast, causing a major fire, completely destroying the platform and resulting in 11 deaths and 11 others missing. Fire duration = 2 hours Fire Damage: Complete collapse of the...
  2. defaultdotxbe

    pictures of fires in WTC1

    these are some pictures i found (ironically on a torrent site for conspiracy stuff) and i had not seen them before, they show fairly clearly how bad the fires in tower 1 were these pictures are after the collapse of WTC2 so the argument that "they were going out towards the end" doesnt fly, it...
  3. CHF

    Miragememories: step right up to the WTC7 challenge

    If WTC7 was a demolition, please explain how the FDNY could have known it would collapse yet not be involved in the execution and/or coverup. Firefighters have been quite straighforward about this issue. They claim that WTC7 was heavily damaged and that they knew it would collapse as a result...
  4. The Almond

    Concrete and XRF

    I hope you don't mind, but I've split this thread off from your other thread, Apollo20, so that you can use that one to talk about your more specific NIST criticisms. First, I wanted to discuss some of your comments on X-Ray fluorescence. Specifically, I was hoping we could talk more in detail...
  5. A

    Debate! What debate?

    At the present time there are THREE main theories that claim to explain the collapse of WTC 1 & 2: 1. The “official theory”: The collapse events were natural, gravitationally driven, processes that were brought on by localized damage caused by the aircraft impacts and subsequent fires. 2. Dr...
  6. Without Rights

    Let us have a fact check.

    Show me the facts is a common statement made here against so-called truthers. Lets reverse the roll shall we? What are the facts that prove the Government's account? I have asked several times but never get a response, so maybe a thread dedicated to the facts will finally get an answer.
  7. ref

    First CT claims arise regarding the WTC Blueprints

    It was inevitable. Sooner or later some truther examines the WTC blueprints and finds something "odd". First conspiracy claims regarding the blueprints start to emerge. Jim Hoffman: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/blueprints.html
  8. FactCheck

    WTC 7 fires and south side hole video

    This NEW video shows a large rip in the south side of building 7 before it collapsed. Evidence the building was far more damaged than conspiracy theorists suggest. Note the smoke coming directly from the rip and not building 6 as conspiracy theorists suggest. At 1:33 Min into the video someone...
  9. S

    Power Down Condition at WTC Tower 2

    I have always heard this but have never seen a significance, the office was open after the power down and explosives would have been noticable. Also, if you notice there are a few spelling errors so I thought it could be a twoofer's lie. Also notice how he doesn't work on Tuesday and he puts...
  10. O

    Question for those who believe in controlled demolition

    I have a question for those who believe that the twin towers were destroyed by explosives-where'd the remnants of the charges go? To take down a building that big you would need A LOT of charges. I admit I'm not an expert in regards to demolition, but I can safely that to take out both towers...
  11. T

    Vertical Sharp Round Hole in WTC7

    Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6186921835292416413 Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down...
  12. P

    WTC7: The Twoofer Epiphany.

    I was wondering why is the WTC7 collapse so important in the twoofer cult, from a psychological point of view. I've noticed it is often the turning point for them, sort of their epiphany, the moment when they go from normal rational person to true believer. When I went to a twoofer...
  13. Stankeye

    Not Woo but interesting use of the WTC steel.

    I read this article in the American Machinist. They used some I-beam from the WTC to make the bow stem for the USS New York. A tribute to the men and women of 9/11. http://americanmachinist.texterity.com/americanmachinist/200703/
  14. T

    Mushroom Cloud and Pyroclastic Flow

    The mushroom cloud and the pyroclastic flow are two different, distinct features of the WTC events. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cWph6gqGnU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cWph6gqGnU Perhaps someone can teach me how to embed youtube. Please observe the video linked above. There...
  15. Mr.Herbert

    Question About the WTC Core Collapse

    Hello, This is my first post & thread so please take it easy on me! For the past year I have been working for the CIA, FBI, FEMA, NIST, and the Bush administration. The location of my work is not classified as I am well known at the ATS site. To them, I am the beast... the shill..the...
  16. ref

    Killtown releasing a new video tomorrow, claiming to prove WTC2 plane videos are fake

    http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5206&st=100 How crazy can this get? All the fellow LCF members are losing faith in him as well.
  17. ref

    A Guide Through Common 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: WTC, Pentagon, Flight 93, Hijackers

    This is the final compilation post. I have gathered together the 4 separate parts I have written earlier. This post is for the ones, who come across these conspiracy theories and claims and want to know what really is behind them. This post is also for the more experienced conspiracy debators...
  18. MaGZ

    WTC 7 on fire before the collapse of the Twin Towers

    Please explain why WTC 7 was on fire (floors 11 and 12) before the collapse of the Twin Towers. http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc23.JPG http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc38.JPG
  19. Alt+F4

    The PAPD – The Forgotten Maligned of 9/11

    The conspiracy liars try to be careful in regard to what they say about the FDNY because they know that trash-talking firefighters into being in on the “conspiracy” disgusts most people. Yet they continue to libel the Port Authority Police Department (PAPD) with baseless accusations. In order...
  20. Gamolon

    Concrete inner core using some calculations

    Ok, I'm doing some math here, so follow along and see if there are mistakes and or variables I am missing. One of the tower's estimated total weight was 500,000 tons. 100,000 tons of it was structural steel leaving 400,000 tons for other materials. I have some dimensions given to me from...
  21. Brainster

    Flight 11 Wheel Issue

    Ningen, a budding no-planer, thinks he's got proof that Flight 11's wheel and the columns from WTC 1 could not have ended up where they supposedly ended up, which is on Cedar Street, approximately 500 feet from the tower. He (I assume) goes into great detail but essentially the argument boils...
  22. Oliver

    "I was there when WTC7 fell"

    I´m pretty sure the Ninjas at JREF did mention it some time ago but i found this piece from an eyewitness within a radioshow with Jason Bermas: www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/OpieAnthony20060406_JasonBermas911Segment.mp3
  23. Panoply_Prefect

    Video with edited sound, explosions added

    Hi! Anyone know where this video came from? I've just come across the same but apparently with explosions added (?). Cheers, SLOB
  24. P

    Top-Down Demolition

    :boggled: I can't think of anything to add to the following exchange. It speaks for itself--loudly. And btw Danny Jowenko HAS clarified his position through a phone call placed to him long after the video was produced -- and he maintains that he still believes Building 7 was brought down...
  25. Oliver

    Proven: Towers had no explosives

    The whole controlled demolition issue bores me to death with a littlebit of common sense and looking into the main arguments of the CT crowd. However: There´s a pretty good Video that shows how the outer columns of the South Tower are getting pulled inwards before and during the initial...
  26. GlennB

    Understanding the core floor layout

    Taking this as an example : What is the exact significance of the light areas? On the surface the diagram suggests these columns were enclosed together in a large 'void', such that a large number of columns could be accessed from one entry point. Was this the case? And, as a matter of...
  27. 2

    WTC Discussion: Core Column Temperature & Failure.

    Sir, What a splendid point you have brought up. The oven in household stoves reach these types of temperatures. Here is the link to the NIST Media Public Briefing. Page 31 shows the temps of each column: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/Media_Public_Briefing_040505_final.pdf This is a...
  28. njslim

    "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel-Rahman ill

    Following article states that the "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel-Rahman is gravely ill and near death. Abdel-Rahman is infamous as the "Blind Sheik", spiritual leader of the terrorist group which carried out February 26, 1993 truck bombing of World Trade Center killing 6, injuring 1000. He was...
  29. kimota

    What other buildings are rigged for demolition?

    According to the posts from 28th Kingdom, se7ensnakes, pagan, Submersible and several others, WTC Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. Paraphrasing their argument: Look at it! Just LOOK at it! It looks like a controlled demolition. It couldn't NOT be a controlled demolition...
  30. 2

    This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

    Hello all, I KNOW there has been a tremendous debate over the subject of 9/11, and from the few threads I have read it looks like most believe the, "Official Story." Well, here's what I can assure you. If you engage me in this debate, than you will NOT leave this thread without KNOWING that...

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