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Guess who might be the ones? These guys:
James R. Gourley
Tony Szamboti
Richard Gage
Graeme MacQueen, Ph.D.
Dr. Steven Jones
Kevin Ryan
Chris Sarns
Kamal Obeid, SE PE
Scott Grainger, PE
Frank Legge
Bob Fischer
Justin Keogh
David Chandler
Gregg Roberts
Yawn. They are not happy with...
The CTBUH, or Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitats, is conferring on the implications of the NIST WTC7 (see here) report but in a specific response to the proposed Conspiracy Theories:
Must be irritating having all these experts be such shills for the big, bad, vast conspiracy.
It's now available in mp3 format:
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/37
Respondents include Richard Gage, Anthony Szamboti (realcddeal at JREF); Kamal Obeid, S.E.; Chris Sarns (Christophera at JREF?); Michael Donly, P.E.; Kevin Ryan.
I just listened through most of it (it's incredibly...
Got pictures of / articles about things falling apart due to thermal expansion? Post 'em here...
[I saw some really neat photos of train tracks rippling in the European heatwave a few summers ago. Can't blooming find em though... anyone?]
NIST has issued a warning that could apply to anyone working in a "tall" building. To me, a tall building would be a building so tall that I'd be afraid to jump out the window.
I'm confused. Should I stay away from work until this threat is neutralized?
EMERGENCY WARNING FOR OFFICE WORKERS...
The computer I'm at has no speakers and will not play videos so I'm including links to both videos both uploaded today by truthers.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137391151102626103
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4426102965720761539
The second video was uploaded by...
The long awaited report is finally up for evaluation. Of course, as we knew, many truthers are already denying the entire report. Richard Gage even announced that he would (and did) counter the report in a conference immediately after it's release. So, they don't even have to read it. They...
Kevin Ryan is at it again, shrieking that NIST was supposed to have tested the rubble of the WTC for explosives based on a supposed requirement under "NFPA 921." It was not my impression that this document has any force of law when the cause of a fire or explosion is known.
He then goes on to...
I have noticed that 9/11 debunkers appear to become irritated when truthers point out the fact that all they do is regurgitate government propaganda, regarding the events of 9/11. The debunkers pretend that they have investigated all the issues themselves and have come to the same conclusions...
Any on constructive and on topic comments or criticisms are welcome.
NIST's Magic Bullet
The file is fairly large so it might take a minute or two to download.
Any constructive and on topic comments are welcome.
http://www.cool-places.0catch.com/911/loadDistribution_v1.pdf
The link in the main article doesn't work in pdf for some reason...
http://www.cool-places.0catch.com/911/calcCriticalLoad.pdf
The purpose of this thread is to cast light on what I'll call NISTian black boxes, as well as (what I believe) is the blindness of the NIST fan base regarding these black boxes. A NISTian black box is an insufficiently documented procedure, wherein a 'plan B' was pursued instead of an intial...
In an earlier thread, RedIbis said this with regards to the delay in NIST's WTC7 report:
Then he said:
In this thread, RedIbis will present his evidence that the reason for NIST's delay is that they are conducting un-scientific practices (starting with a predetermined conclusion, faking an...
Hi!
I've been reading the NSCT act to find the basis of NIST's work not being allowed in court:
I can't find any explicit rule from the act that support this, other than:
In short, my reasoning is that NIST doesn't investigate crimes, and thus any court-going's should be handled by law...
Forget "when will the final NIST report on WTC7 come out".
The question is, are Truthers going to read it with an open mind?
Or have you already decided that it's wrong no matter what it says?
I've been cleaning up the odds and ends for v2.1 of my whitepaper, and tried to access www.nistreview.org.
Got a placeholder.
Is this site gone? It had some real nonsense from Dr. Jones, but it also had some thoughtful content from Dr. Greening, Eric Douglas, and others on it.
Is this...
AKA a thread for LastChild's favourite point, if the mods see fit. I don't feel I'm resurrecting something banished to AAH here. I don't think this point will go away, so I seek to contain it; but obviously, do as you think best.
This is the SOLE topic for discussion in this thread, and we will...
I get fuming mad when I hear basement scientists claim they have found errors in the NIST's findings, and claim that NIST has been compromised by government "Blue Meanies" that have corrupted the results of their work.
Do the conspiracy believers even know the depth and breadth of NIST's work...
Hey, this is my first post, I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and I appreciate the forum being here, it's a sanctuary from the 9/11 madness on the net.
I'm replying to a 9/11 Truther on a forum. He quoted an article from here...
I have a guy that posted a comment on one of my Youtube videos that reads:
"??? Huh ??? why is it redundant to figure out the exact events of the total collapse?
If it wasn't free fall speed? Then what was the rate of descent and how do you explain it without an investigation of the events...
NIST FAQ on the Towers was updated:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_12_2007.htm
Does it seem like the answers are more dumbed down than the ones in their earlier FAQ?
I have a feeling it was done because those positing the questions are not capable of comprehending the answers.
NIST has issued a supplement of frequently asked questions today (December 14, 2007) that offers a few answers to some common troother questions. Here's the link.
I am not an engineer, but the answers given are in layman's terms so they are fairly easy for even me to understand.:rolleyes...
A while ago I saw an interesting documentary on National Geographic about NTSB-investigations into three Boeing 737-200 incidents.
The investigations were about the crashes of United Airlines Flight 585 in 1991 and USAir Flight 427 in 1994, and the near-crash of Eastwind Airlines Flight 517...
apacherose105 makes a very specific claim in this post
It is a specific claim, and a claim for which evidence should be objective in nature and easy to verify/falsify.
I've made a new thread so this claim can either be corroborated, or falsified.
Please, present your evidence, apacherose105.
FYI - NIST has updated their website:
http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-2index.htm
http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-5index.htm
These changes are in response to a letter. NIST responded to the letter, addressing some of the controlled demolition theory, such as:
They deny numerous changes that...
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