flight 93

What are your thoughts fighters from Toledo's Air Guard shot down Flight 93? Toledo's Air Guard called to defend U.S. on Sept. 11 http://web.archive.org/web/20060208215021/http:/www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20011209&Category=NEWS28&ArtNo=112090036&Ref=AR

Hello, have lurked here for awhile and just decided to join the forum. Thanks to everyone here for the info they provide and the effort many have put forth to make sure we never forget. Have been thinking about how I might be able to contribute to the cause and thought this thread was a...

For those truthers believing in the absolutely ridiculous "voice morph" theory for the phone calls from the 9/11 aircraft, explain the following: (1) Linda Gronlund, aboard U93, spoke to her sister Elsa Strong via the Airfone at seats 26DEF, and told her that her will was in her safe, which was...

The man who made the video died in February. It does not show the impact. It does however show the mushroom cloud. It is the earliest known video of the crash and a mushroom cloud is clearly seen. http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surfaces

This brought me to tears. A heart felt remembrance by Alice Hoagland, mother of Mark Bingham. http://news.yahoo.com/unexpected-legacy-left-by-hero-of-flight-93.html

i am a 911 truther, new to this forum. i believe that 4 planes were hijacked by terrorists. the title of this thread is misleading, i'm playing devils advocate by explaining that the gov would NEVER, admit to shooting down a civilian airliner. Even more so on the 911 in the emotional...

I need some assistance. I am searching with no success for either 9-11 emergency call transcripts or audio from Fl 93, specifically Ed Felt's call to John Shaw at the Westmorland County 9/11. I understand that Glenn Cramer reported to the AP - which was widely reported - reading from a...

Well, beachnut, if that is your opening salvo, is there a particular way you want to proceed or not? Shown above are what are listed as Plymouth wheel covers. Shown below is the iconic photo of what is said to be the crash site at Shanksville PA and what you say is a jet engine and what I...

According to the Truth Movement, Flight 93 was "shot down" by a "jet fighter". That theory is just rediculas because I live no more than 20 miles North of Shanksville, PA. The John P. Murtha Airport, which is located at Johnstown, PA, only has Apache Helicopters & no jet fighters. When I woke up...

Soil Specialist from Down Under- Flight 93 Crashed in Shanksville? "Nonsense!" "Rewey" at ATS has posted a paper outlining his reasons as to why the crash sight in Shanksville is not representative of a high speed nose down crash...

I would like to discuss what I would call "benign conspiracies" about 9/11. These are basically secret evil government plots, without the "evil" part. You've seen them. You've seen Truthers claim that WTC7 was demolished for safety reasons--to prevent a much more uncontrolled and dangerous...

We've had several Truthers claim (or at least strongly imply) that Flight 77 and Flight 93 did not crash into the Pentagon and Shanksville, respectively. That leaves us with the question: Where did they go? What happened to them Truthers? Where are Flight 77 and Flight 93? I imagine American...

This thread has now become rather long, so to help the forum database I have closed it. Please continue the discussion here. Note that since the original thread was on moderated status, this one will be moderated as well.

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-29-FBI-phone-records.pdf This file was posted by a truther on another forum, it's Todd Beamer cell phone log obtained through FOIA. He claims that it shows that Beamer made calls after UA93 crashed and therefore the "Official story" is a lie. Does anybody...

Long article from NEWSWEEK on DNA analysis of human remains from WTC, Flight 93 and Pentagon. Using new techniques were able to isolate genetic material from tiny fragments of tissue or bone and identify the sequence of the hijackers. Victims family's had expressed concerns that their...

I know this subject has been beaten to death, but there are some new documents available to help solidify the fact that Mineta was referring to Flight 93 and not Flight 77. AAL77.com has a xls document that contains the flight plans for United 93. The document shows that United 93's course was...

Here is article from Detroit Free Press - interview with John Werth who was in Cleveland Center on 9/11 working United 93. Werth, now retired, heard the hijacking over his headset. Had to clear air space around United 93 and assist with Delta 1989, which was suspected as hijacked...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2456935081384261617&ei=A8e_SK71Com-igKh9aChCQ&q=wally+miller&hl=en maybe mark? lol

My latest video. Thanks to AJM8125 for finding the original footage on YouTube and providing the title. ff7h7Ll8Dl4 Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 was a commercial flight that crashed in San Luis Obispo County, California, on December 7, 1987. All 43 people on board the aircraft died...

I used to spend a lot of summer weekends in the Indian Lake area, and I have driven past there on numerous occasions more recently, but today I decided that I had to visit the Flight 93 crash site and memorial and see it first hand. It was very easy to find, with very noticeable signs directing...

Came across this on our favourite forums - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=100963&t=60373 Seems to have gotten really rotten in that thread with tons and tons of useless speculation. Someone seems to be fighting a one man war against Dom and Spreston. Absolutely love...

Why do conspiracy theorists insist that flight 93 was shot down ? Surely, if it had been hijacked, the USAF would have had justifiable reason to shoot down a hijacked plane if they could. If passengers had not phoned their loved ones from it, there would have been no need to go to elaborate...

Well, Buzzflash finally goes semi-Truther: Mark Karlin, the editor and publisher of Buzzflash, one of the largest liberal sites on the Internet, goes on to estimate the probability of a shootdown at 8 in 10. Hilariously, he gets attacked in the comments not for endorsing this nuttery, but for...

This is a new thread that I am carrying over since the info that was being diccussed in the previous one didn't belong there. I will begin it with a few posts of mine and others.

The Challenge: What one piece of evidence(even though the evidence has all been seized & one needs to concentrate on catching them in lies/evasiveness in their answers) would convince you the WTC attack was genuine. THE REPLY: The screenshots from the Bureau Of Transportation Statistics Web...

Wondering if some of our aviation gurus can help. What was the fuel load carried by the hijacked jets on 9/11? Various sources give anywhere from 9,000 to 11,000 gals. Boeing specs list 767-200ER has having max fuel load of 23,980 gal (90,770l) which I take as being used only for long...

At 09:58 Ed Felt made a call to 911, from UA93, where he claimed he had heard some kind of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane. It appears this statement is being used to prove UA93 was engaged by a missile. Analysing the CVR data, it appeasr at this time, the hijackers were...

Inspired by the thread Final Moments of Flight 93 and Hasib Hussains final hour. Watching The Flight That Fought Back and United 93, as well as reading facts here and there, I've long since wondered... Did Ziad Jarrah had second doubts about the attacks? Ziad and Atta started to grew away...

I've prepared this synopsis of Flight 93's CVR and FDR for a thread over at DU, and I would appreciate any comments. The CVR transcript is only excerpts because I wanted to keep this on one page. However, I think I've covered the main events of those last minutes. I hope the print isn't too...

Val wants to extend her sincere gratitude to everyone here who has supported her. She is well aware of your efforts. I hope that people on both sides of the issue take this as a reminder that what we do affects real people in the real world. A year ago the "truth" movement swaggered into New...