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What causes this?

wasapi

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I know that this is not paranormal, but am curious what causes this. Wishful thinking?

A few days ago my wonderful cat Millie died. We had an incredible bond.

The day after she died, I twice heard her distinctive meow. later, I heard her thump from her perch.

So, are these tricks of the mind?

Thanks
 
Grief has a powerful effect on the mind. Not dealing with it properly, or at all can cause people to see, and hear things. And it can make them do things that are out out of character.

Take the time to feel awful.
 
I know that this is not paranormal, but am curious what causes this. Wishful thinking?

A few days ago my wonderful cat Millie died. We had an incredible bond.

The day after she died, I twice heard her distinctive meow. later, I heard her thump from her perch.

So, are these tricks of the mind?

Thanks


It's how the brain works : you don't actually perceive everything that is going on, your brain generates a tableau of what it expects to see - and then does a TK DIFF, just looking for what is different from Expectation.
You expected to hear her the sound, so you did.
 
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Such instances are common anecdotes for many pets and others who have passed after at least several years of companionship. So, as a skeptic (or as close as I can currently achieve) I apprehended some things currently occurring to me. I have two cats that I have lived with for about 6 and a half years. I have found myself seeing one of them (or the other) out of the corner of my eye, only to look and discover not only that there was no cat, but that the cat was actually in another part of the room, or some other identified location. I have heard sounds that I thought were their cries, but further investigation proved that to also be incorrect. Usually, an alternate source was identified, occasionally not. Many times I have felt what I thought was the weight of their arrival upon my bed, or other furniture only to realize that was not the case.

So, what does this all mean? Is something weird going on? Something supernatural in some precognitive manner, for when they do pass?

Well, the first question will be answered beginning with the answers to the next two. Specifically, not all that weird, and definitely not supernatural. What I have come to realize is that since my pets have become engrained in my life, my experiences with them have imprinted themselves in my brain. I am constantly on the lookout for them, whether it be by sight, sound, or touch. My brain does its normal thing by associating even the slightest information into something it already understands (e.g., my cats). If more specific information avails itself that does not equal cat, then my brain obviously reanalyzes to interpret the correct reality. Normally, I wouldn't even give it another thought. However, after hearing the many stories about people having these same experiences with those that have died, I have realized that what is happening to me now is merely the mundane functions of my brain processing everyday information. I began to pay much more attention to these occurrences (which probably alters any "blinded" quality to my self-study), and though I can't say whether their frequency is the same, less, or greater, I have definitely become more aware of the circumstances that cause it. It was easy to conclude that because my body and mind had been "tuned" into making itself watchful to my cats' presence, it became sensitive to the slightest reminders/associations that might occur. IMHO, this is what has happened in wasapi's case, as well as the plethora of similar events others have experienced. While the subjects are still living, we tend to recognize these fleeting imaginations for what they are, and pay them no mind, as we quickly resolve the fact that our subject(s) Is (are) elsewhere in the material world. Once these familiar beings have passed, the associative events can be elevated to the realms of weirdness, because we are subconsciously unable to resolve them to an earthly existence.

As a final word, I have to add that prior to having my pets, I never had any of the false impressions that I related (at least none that I can recall). Anyway, that's me getting the most milage out of my 2 cents on the subject.
 
It's how the brain works : you don't actually perceive everything that is going on, your brain generates a tableau of what it expects to see - and then does a TK DIFF, just looking for what is different from Expectation.
You expected to hear her the sound, so you did.


Dang! You ninja'd me with far fewer words!
 
It's the same phenomenon as the phantom phone buzz in your pocket. And having had three cats for most of my life, I've often experienced the corner-of-my-eye effect, only to go immediately into the next room and find them all sleeping peacefully.
 
In my case my senses changed as I get older. Deaf as a post where ambient noise is strong, can hear birds a mile off where there is no ambient noise.
Small muscle spasms in my limbs I have tuned out yet cause the mattress to move a tiny bit. Mostly detected.

My area around the house is quiet. Near no traffic and not a lot of activity in the street.

I hear a screen in a window move and later it's like the cat jumped on the bed. I am half asleep. Cat actually left the house or the wind moved the screen, I sometimes bother to check.
Or it was my son moving something and didn't want to bother me. He moves like a ghost when he wants to.

I have a pretty trusting feeling about the house and only alert to unfamiliar voices or sounds that shouldn't be there somehow. It's very rare the last years.
 
It's sad when a pet dies. For a while, you feel that you'd give almost anything to be with them again. Perhaps your heart tries to bring them back. If so, good. That speaks well for your kind nature.
 
It's the same phenomenon as the phantom phone buzz in your pocket. And having had three cats for most of my life, I've often experienced the corner-of-my-eye effect, only to go immediately into the next room and find them all sleeping peacefully.

I get that, I didn't realise it was 'a thing'! Odd thing is I don't keep my phone in my pocket!
 
It's called "post-bereavement hallucination". It's common to see/hear something that you interpret as reminding you of people or pets that have died recently because they're already in the background of your mind while you're interpreting whatever your senses sense at the moment. It's similar to other situations in which people keep seeing/hearing reminders of whatever's been on their minds lately, like buying a particular kind of car and then seeing lots of that kind of car all over the area.

Some people even apply it to the sightings of Jesus after his death. It turns out that all claims of his post-death appearances can be traced back to just one or two people, so it only takes one or two post-bereavement hallucinations, a relatively common type of occurrence for at least as long as humans have been humans, to explain all claims of his post-death appearances and thus all of Christianity since then.
 
I know that this is not paranormal, but am curious what causes this. Wishful thinking?

A few days ago my wonderful cat Millie died. We had an incredible bond.

The day after she died, I twice heard her distinctive meow. later, I heard her thump from her perch.

So, are these tricks of the mind?

Thanks

Yes, and I think it could also be the brain replaying visual/auditory 'images' as a kind of memory. Perhaps this helps us grieve in some way?

When I was grieving over the loss of my beloved JRT, I was seeing her everywhere, and every dog bark was her coming back to me.

It gets better with time.

If you can, try to use it as a way to reinforce happy memories.
 
In Pink Floyd's Not Now John, from their The Final Cut album, there's a background sort of scream that I'm sure doesn't actually say "Oi! Jamie"; however, I always hear it as such. My name's James and my close family used to call me Jamie, which might explain it.

I've been hearing this for decades, so early-onset cloth-ears doesn't adequately explain it.

It's just after the "wily Japanese" lyric.
 
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I distinctly heard my roommate downstairs this morning (his voice and him rattling something) as I was descending the staircase.
But he wasn't downstairs, upstairs, on the property at all.
His car was gone.

He's very much alive, and I wasn't eaten by some sort of mimic.
 
I distinctly heard my roommate downstairs this morning (his voice and him rattling something) as I was descending the staircase.
But he wasn't downstairs, upstairs, on the property at all.
His car was gone.

He's very much alive, and I wasn't eaten by some sort of mimic.

Congratulations. You have experience the most common form of "Haunting", ghosts of the living.

What happened was you heard a noise you commonly associate with your roommate, and your brain filled in the picture by adding the voice. This phenomenon is what drove me to throw out all the paranormal crap-ola, and rethink why people experience this stuff.

Your brain works by shorthand. You were coming down the stairs, the brain's job is to keep you from falling down the steps, and getting hurt, and the distraction of the noise was relegated to shorthand. It's the same thing that can hide a speeding freight train in the blind spot of your car until it's too late.
 
Congratulations. You have experience the most common form of "Haunting", ghosts of the living.

What happened was you heard a noise you commonly associate with your roommate, and your brain filled in the picture by adding the voice. This phenomenon is what drove me to throw out all the paranormal crap-ola, and rethink why people experience this stuff.

Your brain works by shorthand. You were coming down the stairs, the brain's job is to keep you from falling down the steps, and getting hurt, and the distraction of the noise was relegated to shorthand. It's the same thing that can hide a speeding freight train in the blind spot of your car until it's too late.

You mean it wasn't an evil doppelgänger?
I'm relieved now, that it won't be coming up the stairs to tell me why Project 2025 would be good for America. (Or just to ask me again how to do a photo attachment to an E-mail.) :wackyyes:
 
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