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This might be big. I was reading that these guys are hackers and somehow got 911 related papers from all sorts of companies. Lets try and pull all the papers they release here in this thread so we can analyze them. I was reading somewhere that this might be bigger than the Edward Snowden revelations. They released some info about flight 175 and a passenger called his dad from the plane while it was getting hijacked.

https://steemit.com/thedarkoverlord...ers-megaleak-checkpoint-02-documents-analysis
 
bad thing is these hackers are wanting money in bitcoins for the info.
 
I hope that the few remaining truthers aren't gullible enough to pay money for this info. A complete, obvious scam. Anyone with a functioning baloney detection kit can see through this.
 
theprestige said:
We already knew that people were able to call from the hijacked planes.
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True. Thedarklord released a FBI file that contained information about Peter Hanson speaking to his father over a cellphone on 911. Does anyone know if that fbi file has been released to the public before now?
 
Senenmut said:
True. Thedarklord released a FBI file that contained information about Peter Hanson speaking to his father over a cellphone on 911. Does anyone know if that fbi file has been released to the public before now?
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Yes, we read about it within four days after the attack, and it is mentioned in almost every 9-11 documentary.

Let's Bottom-Line this;

They hacked a bunch of insurance companies who dealt with payouts, and lawsuits surrounding 9-11.

The TSA didn't exist until after 9-11.

Most of the lawsuits will be similar to the Con-Ed lawsuit re: WTC7 that alleged structural flaws in the design, and inadequate fire suppression.

Bottom line: Old News.
 
In theory, the marijuana legalization movement could provide a fresh new crop of truthers, as a whole new age cohort experiences the effects as augmented by paranoia-addled youtube viewing.
 
My understanding is that the extortion is targeted at the victims of the alleged hack (insurance companies) and not a bounty solicited from the 9/11 CT crowd.

Any chance that the insurance companies would pay such a ransom? Not that they are hiding anything scandalous, but releasing a bunch of personal info about their clients and claims related to the 9/11 attack would be a bad look.
 
The property owners, lessees, tenants, insurance companies, and victims' representatives all sued one another to sort out liability questions. This was not because any of them had any plausible claims that the events of the day were significantly different from the historical consensus, but because given the amounts of money involved even the tiniest details of how the written policy terms applied to the events could affect the bottom line by millions of dollars. It was arguably their fiduciary duty to take it all to court.

Are there details in the court documents that aren't in the public historical record, and that the people involved might not want made public? Probably, but nothing that really alters the narrative. For instance, there might have been some attempts made to identify the tower jumpers who were photographed; there might even be some insurance claims expert arguing that those deaths were outside their liability because technically they were suicides (with counter-arguments attempting to prove that the conditions on the fire floors were beyond human endurance). Distasteful, but also how such business is done, so no Big Story.
 
Not to mention how would these documents involve tens of thousands of people being in on it including the NYFD, also Jason Bermas is covering this story as well.

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Jason Bermas, now there's a blast from the past. Army deserter, heroin dealer, teller of truths.
 
carlitos said:
Jason Bermas, now there's a blast from the past. Army deserter, heroin dealer, teller of truths.
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Wasn’t it the third stooge, Corey whatshisname, who was the dope dealin deserter?

IIRC the last I heard of Bermas is he moved back into his mom’s basement and took a job in a pizzeria after Alex Jones kicked him to the curb. He took to e-begging to buy broadcast quality AV gear.

I’m sure that went well.
 
That seemit link is down for the violation of terms of service. Speaking of this some people think this is censorship, which i argue they set the rules on their website so you would have to play ball with them.

Anyway I don't really think the darkoverlord group wouldn't just willingly release the megaleak to the public especially when their is money to be gain here since they are black hat hackers.





https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1naGOvPsD11AMt2nN3j_67&ust=1547080220533115
 
AJM8125 said:
Wasn’t it the third stooge, Corey whatshisname, who was the dope dealin deserter?



IIRC the last I heard of Bermas is he moved back into his mom’s basement and took a job in a pizzeria after Alex Jones kicked him to the curb. He took to e-begging to buy broadcast quality AV gear.



I’m sure that went well.
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You mean Corey Roe

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Crap that was Korey Rowe, not Bermas. I apologize. I’m on a phone, maybe someone can report my post for me.
 
Myriad said:
Are there details in the court documents that aren't in the public historical record, and that the people involved might not want made public? Probably, but nothing that really alters the narrative. For instance, there might have been some attempts made to identify the tower jumpers who were photographed; there might even be some insurance claims expert arguing that those deaths were outside their liability because technically they were suicides (with counter-arguments attempting to prove that the conditions on the fire floors were beyond human endurance). Distasteful, but also how such business is done, so no Big Story.
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The coroner ruled they were homicides.
 
SpitfireIX said:
The coroner ruled they were homicides.
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Ah, ok, which I suppose would put the question beyond any further legal dispute.

In any case, it was a hypothetical example. The idea is that there may very well be private stuff in the legal proceedings that would make some people or organizations look bad. But no "inside jobby job" revelations.
 
this is an interesting exchange between a lawyer and one of the security guys working the gate for 175 on 9-11. He states two knives were taken that day and one of them from a women that had a scarf around her head. he apparently logged her name in a log book. Has anyone ever heard or seen this log book in any evidence out there??

12 Q. You told us a moment ago that you
13 confiscated two of those knives. Two different
14 passengers?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. The second knife that was identified and
17 confiscated, how was it first identified?
18 A. The same way. Divested.
19 Q. And how many -- can you approximate for us
20 the time that passed between the first knife was
21 confiscated and the second knife?
22 A. No. I couldn't approximate that, no.
23 Q. Was it more than a couple of minutes?
24 A. Yes. I would say.
25 Q. It could have been 15, 20?
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2 A. Possibly.
3 Q. Okay. Can you describe that passenger for
4 us?
5 A. I think it was a female. She had a wrap
6 around her head.
7 Q. What kind of wrap?
8 A. A scarf.
9 Q. Can you describe her height, age, race?
10 A. I would think she was from -- she was a
11 Muslim.
12 Q. Okay. And that is because of the wrap?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. And do you also base that on her skin and
15 complexion being of Middle Eastern appearance?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Now, when you confiscated this second
18 knife, was it your responsibility to log that into some
19 sort of document?
20 A. Yes. But it wasn't a knife.
21 Q. I'm sorry. The --
22 A. Utility knife.
23 Q. And can you just show us again the one
24 that it was similar to?
25 A. Exhibit 21.
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2 Q. Okay. Twenty-one. Was it logged in?
3 A. Yes. It was.
4 Q. Who logged it?
5 A. I did.
6 Q. Did you have a conversation with the
7 passenger?
8 A. No.
9 Q. In order to log in the knife that was
10 confiscated, it was necessary, wasn't it, to write the
11 passenger's name down?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Was it necessary to write the passenger's
14 address down?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Where did you obtain the passenger's name?
17 A. On the log that we have every day.
18 Q. But --
19 A. Daily log.
20 Q. Oh, thank you. You put it in the daily
21 log, but how did you learn her name?
22 A. Her ticket.
 
continue from the above post. same type of blade confiscated from two different people.

10 Q. Mr. Thomas, the two razor knives that were
11 confiscated that day, were they identical to one
12 another or were they different in appearance?
13 MR. ROSS: Objection to form.
14 A. They were just razors, razor knives.
15 Q. Well, for instance, did they have the same
16 color handle?
17 A. They was gray.
18 Q. I mean did they appear to be the same or
19 did they appear to be manufactured by different
20 companies?
21 A. Well, I don't know if they're manufactured
22 by different companies, but they appeared to be the
23 same.
24 Q. Okay. The woman, the Middle Eastern woman
25 that you confiscated the razor from, was she traveling
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2 with anyone?
3 A. Not that I can recall. I'm not sure. I
4 think she was with another man, but I'm not sure.
 
I can't tell which of the many documents you are referring to, and google won't let me preview them without downloading.

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That looks very much like a trial transcription. Wouldn't it be available freely if so?

Any idea which case is it from?
 
Senenmut said:
this is an interesting exchange between a lawyer and one of the security guys working the gate for 175 on 9-11. He states two knives were taken that day and one of them from a women that had a scarf around her head. he apparently logged her name in a log book. Has anyone ever heard or seen this log book in any evidence out there??
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Not sure I see the relevance here. Even if this exchange is genuine, what difference would it make to the proven culpability of Al Qaeda?
I'm also not convinced by the description of the woman in question.
"A scarf wrapped around her head" does not sound like a description of a Muslim headscarf, and (sorry, guys) some Americans at least have great difficulty in guessing people's origins. I recollect a Sikh who was attacked because some idiot thought he was an Arab, and I myself (white European) was thought to be Indian by a shopkeeper in Hawaii.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Not sure I see the relevance here. Even if this exchange is genuine, what difference would it make to the proven culpability of Al Qaeda?
I'm also not convinced by the description of the woman in question.
"A scarf wrapped around her head" does not sound like a description of a Muslim headscarf, and (sorry, guys) some Americans at least have great difficulty in guessing people's origins. I recollect a Sikh who was attacked because some idiot thought he was an Arab, and I myself (white European) was thought to be Indian by a shopkeeper in Hawaii.
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Either way, all this testimony does is place another person on the plane trying to bring a box-cutter on board on a day where box cutters were a key ingredient.

Not sure how we get inside job with this...
 
Just out of curiosity, but is there any confirmation that the documents are genuine and/or accurate?

I mean, we're talking about material obtained from someone who already broke the law to obtain it, and then sold it, with no thought to the privacy of those in the documents. Not exactly civic-minded.

Wouldn't be that difficult to add your own material, for whatever purpose, to the mix.

ETA: Long story short, there's a chain of custody issue :)
 
"Imean, we're talking about material obtained from someone who already broke the law to obtain it, and then sold it, with no thought to the privacy of those in the documents. Not exactly civic-minded.

Wouldn't be that difficult to add your own material, for whatever purpose, to the mix.

ETA: Long story short, there's a chain of custody issue :)"




Even i thought this, just myself just trying to find those documents took me about 5 minutes to find them all in a bundle. This group says it has documents that will tear the boogeyman and the only way to obtain is to spend money to release things that don't matter. If they were on the side of anything they would just drop the bomb, instead payments for old 9/11 documents not released to public that it doesn't signify a conspiracy happening. In fact some of these documents have their place on their computer and they show that link inside where they placed it. It's only been not too long since they released that.
 
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