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Multiple Bombs in Murrah Building Prove Inside Job

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The Official Story said:
On April 17, 1995 Timothy McVeigh reportedly picked up a 20-foot Ryder truck from Elliott's Body Shop in Junction City. The truck was filled with roughly 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate, an agricultural fertilizer, and nitromethane, a highly volatile motor-racing fuel-a mixture also known as Kinepak or ANFO (ammonium nitrate/fuel oil).

At 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, the truck exploded in the street in front of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building. About 90 minutes later, McVeigh was stopped by an Oklahoma state trooper for driving a vehicle without a license plate, who then arrested him on a firearms charge. Two days later he was charged in the bombing. His friend Terry Nichols was arrested in Kansas, and formally charged with the bombing on May 10.

There are many problems with the official story of the bombing. Let's start with McVeigh's whereabouts on April 17.

McVeigh had been filmed by a security camera at a nearby McDonald's 24 minutes before the time stamped on the truck rental agreement, wearing clothes that did not match either of the men seen at Elliott's.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/macdnlds.gif

There is no plausible explanation of how he traveled the mile and a quarter from McDonald's to the rental agency, carless and alone as he claims, without getting soaked in the rain.

The three people interviewed agreed John Does 1 and 2 were dry. According to Stephen Jones, who has seen the interview transcripts, it took 44 days for the FBI to convince the car rental agency owner that John Doe 1 was Timothy McVeigh. And in the end they did not dare put him on the witness stand, for fear of what might happen under cross-examination.

There is also an unanswered question with regard to the truck, namely what was the Army doing with a Ryder Truck just before the Murrah blast?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/TRUCK/DETAIL.gif

The biggest problem with the official story of the bombing are early news reports of the incident:

"...here's now what we are starting to learn about the succession, or what someone obviously hoped would be a succession of explosions. The first bomb that was in the federal building did go off ... the second explosive was found and defused. The third explosive that was found and they are working on it right now ... both the second and third explosives, if you can imagine this, were larger than the first. ... It is just incredible to think that there was that much heavy artillery that was somehow moved into the downtown Oklahoma City federal building."

"...this is the work of a sophisticated group, this is a very sophisticated device, and it has to have been done by an explosives expert."

These and many other corroborating reports can be seen in Reichstag 911's OKC section

Additional bombs are also reported in this CNN transcript.

The Murrah building was not destroyed by a single truck bomb - the Eglin blast effects study and General Partin's Report prove this is the case.

The Eglin Blast Effects Study


Please note I will put everyone on ignore who uses ad-homs in this thread.

I expect to see a full rebuttal on the Eglin Blast Effects Study as well and I will continue to post more evidence in this thread.
 
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/bible.jpg

Tiffany Bible was a paramedic called to the Murrah Building following the bombing. This affidavit reports three important facts:

1. The ATF were not in the building.

2. That the ATF was already putting out a story that the Murrah Building was bombed "because of Waco" only a few hours after the actual blast and before Tim McVeigh was even arrested.

3. That an unexploded bomb was found attached to a gas line inside the building.
 
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/fema1.jpg

This FEMA memo also reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/fort1.jpg

Again, confirmation of at least two additional bombs which were found in the Murrah Building.

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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/dod.jpg

This memo, issued 36 hours after the bombing, reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/fema1.jpg

This FEMA memo also reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/fort1.jpg

Again, confirmation of at least two additional bombs which were found in the Murrah Building.
these were training devices used for, well, training

you may have noticed several law enforcement agencies occupied the building
 

Do reports of "additional explosives found" appear in some official documents in the IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH of the bombing? Yes, they do.

"Ooh, that's damning!"
Don't get excited. The CTers leave out a few details.

"So what are those reports about?"
Bomb scares. The scares were quickly cleared and rescue work resumed. No bombs or other explosives were found.

gravy lies again.

i posted sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses to the contrary in this thread and can present more. people saw the bombs.

was gravy there that day?

no?

then his word against the eyewitnesses and their sworn affidavits. your hero gravy comes out on the bottom again.

thanks for wasting everyones time with mark roberts garbage yet again.
 
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/ock_log1.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/ock_log2.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/ock_log3.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/ock_log4.jpg

These four pages are the radio log of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.

Note that the reports of additional bombs are confirmed by the fire department.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/steele1.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/steele2.jpg

Virgil Steele is the elevator inspector who discovered that the story told by a senior BATF agent about being trapped in a plummeting elevator was a lie. The elevators were in working order except for being without power, and nobody had been trapped in them. Virgil also sees two additional bombs being removed from the building.
 
This is the dictation tape made by a lawyer which captures the sounds of the blast which destroyed the Oklahoma Federal Building on April 19th, 1995. Note the sounds of a rattle which precedes the blast by one second. This sound is the surface wave from the ANFO Truck Bomb which arrives ahead of the airborne concussion, traveling through the Earth's surface. 4.2 seconds ahead of the start of the rattle, a "thump" is heard on the tape, overlapping the second syllable of the word "attorneys".

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Events marked on the jpg file

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/spectrum2.jpg


1. The thump at -4.2 seconds.
2. An airborne event which arrives at the correct place to be associated with event 1, if it originates at the same location as the truck bomb itself.
3. This marks the start of the arrival of the surface wave from the truck bomb. On the tape, this can be heard as a rattle building under the lawyer's voice. Note that unlike the lawyer's voiceprints, which show clear banding in frequency, the sounds from the truck bomb surface wave are smoothly distributed in the lower frequencies.
4. This is the arrival of the airborne concussion from the truck bomb. Like the surface wave, this signal lacks the striations of the lawyer's voice. The most notable difference is the sudden transition to high frequency components.

Note that the Surface Wave / Air Wave delays are identical in both cases, indicating similar distances from the recording device.

When I originally heard this tape, I discarded the "pop" at the -4.2 second mark as just noise on the tape. However, when the Water Board tape (which follows) also had an artifact at the -4.2 second mark, I ran a frequency domain audio spectrogram on the lawyer's dictation tape. The spike corresponding to the pop at the -4.2 second mark is circled. The other event marks were added later. The stripe at the top is electronic noise, possibly from the dictation machine itself.

At the time when the Truck Bomb exploded outside the Murrah Federal Building on April 19th, The Oklahoma Water Board was meeting in a building diagonally across the street. 4.2 seconds prior to the truck bomb blast, a loud "thump" is heard on the tape, just as the speaker finishes the phrase," are four elements that I have to..".

On this tape, the speaker pauses after the thump is heard, and just prior to the main blast, if you listen real close, other voices can be heard just starting to speak up.

MP3

From the above evidence, it is clear that an event which generated a high frequency surface wave which preceded the main truck bomb blast by 4.2 seconds. This event was recorded at two different locations at distances of 100 yards and 1/3 of a mile. Because the 4.2 second interval remains constant at both distances, theories of mechanism producing echoes are eliminated. Because the spectrogram of the lawyer's tape shows BOTH surface and airborne waves separated by 4.2 seconds from BOTH surface and airborne waves of the truck bomb, arguments of a surface/air phenomenon are invalid. Two events at the Murrah building 4.2 seconds apart produced two sets of surface/air pairs 4.2 seconds apart at the lawyer's office.

These images are scans of the seismographic output from the Norman Oklahoma Z-axis recorder for April 19th and May 23rd; the bombing and the demolition respectively. This is the raw data which led Ray Brown and Charles Mankin to decide that there may have been a second explosion. It turns out that the 10 second delay is caused by differing propagation times through the layers of shale and sandstone that lie under Oklahoma City.


April 19th: The Bombing of the Murrah Building
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok_geo.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/lo_19.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/hi_19.jpg

May 23rd: The Sequenced Demolition of the Murrah Building

The additional spikes on this record are caused by wind flexing the radio antenna which is used to transmit the data to the Oklahoma Geological Survey.

Seismographic record of the Murrah Building Demolition

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/lo_22.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/hi_22.jpg

Note that the 8 second long sequenced demolition of the remainder of the Murrah Building yielded a trace the same length as the original bombing. The first trace, if indeed a single explosion, should be shorter. But it isn't, suggesting that BOTH events consisted of multiple sequenced detonations over several seconds' duration.
 
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no those are sworn affidavits. if you really cared about the truth you could actually obtain copies yourself. :jaw-dropp

Seriously, 8 out of 10 of your links were to "jewsreallydidit.com".

The only thing you left out in your post spam was the sentence "I'm not an anti-semite, but this eerily matches the pattern laid out in the Protocols of Zion".
 
You lack evidence for OKC and 9/11. Now it is clear, you just like fantasy and do not care anything about reality. What causes such paranoia to make up or believe the made up ideas on OKC? Are the causes the same for OKC, as for 9/11?
 
quote mining again Dom?

gravy lies again.

i posted sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses to the contrary in this thread and can present more. people saw the bombs.

was gravy there that day?

no?

then his word against the eyewitnesses and their sworn affidavits. your hero gravy comes out on the bottom again.

thanks for wasting everyones time with mark roberts garbage yet again.
"Then what WAS removed from the site? Lots of eyewitnesses saw things being taken away by the bomb squads."
Dummy explosives used by the BATF for training exercises, and a shoulder-mounted TOW missile launcher, still in its shipping case, with an INERT warhead and a small amount of solid propellant.

"What? A missile launcher? See, I told you those government bastards were up to something!"
Yeah, they were up to catching criminals. The missile was to be used in a "buy-and-bust" arms-purchasing sting operation.

I'm getting pretty sick of reading about CTers disparaging first responders who are doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Here, a typically classy CTer calls OK City police and fire dept. bomb squads "stupid."

shame shame shame dom. on your last post above you are hot linking images again and quoting entire bodies of text without citing source.

i see library lady caught you as i was editing my post

here's how i found your.. ahem... what really happened's text.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...t+lie+under+Oklahoma+City.&btnG=Google+Search
 
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I posted the following in the thread about CDI, but I'll post it here for those who didnt' see it.

Not this nonsense again. You're not familiar with the transfer beam, are you? It was a giant horizontal concrete beam which supported the weight of everything above the second floor. Once McVeigh's bomb took out that beam, there was nothing to support the upper floors. Without anything to support them, the upper floors collapsed. It's called G-R-A-V-I-T-Y.

Steve S.
 
Hey Dom when will your fantasies resutl in a real court hearing with real people and real evidence.
Let me answer that for you:
NEVER.
 
of course. fake bombs were planted and dismantled on the same day another bomb inside the building just happened to have detonated while the day care centers were full and the atf offices were empty.

yeah mark roberts and company aren't gullible at all.

people are told to back up because atf not on the 'in' find bombs and warn people to back up while they dismantle them. then they're seen taking the bombs off site. and there just happened to be an explosion in the building. and the government wont release the 12+ videos that captured the attack on film.

so the bombs people saw being dismantled and taken out were fake not duds.

now i see what excuse you would have used had there been undetonated bombs recovered from the scene reported by the media and confirmed by eyewitnesses in sworn affidavits which anyone can obtain copies of if they weren't too busy attacking the source used, is that they were fake ones.

wow.

congrats. you win. i dont have an argument against :

all the other bombs taken out of the building were fake ones and im not looking at any of the audio evidence or the eglin blast effect report either. they were fakes. you troothers believe anything!!!!111!!!!!!!!11!!11
 
I posted the following in the thread about CDI, but I'll post it here for those who didnt' see it.

Not this nonsense again. You're not familiar with the transfer beam, are you? It was a giant horizontal concrete beam which supported the weight of everything above the second floor. Once McVeigh's bomb took out that beam, there was nothing to support the upper floors. Without anything to support them, the upper floors collapsed. It's called G-R-A-V-I-T-Y.

Steve S.

The Eglin Blast Effects Study

debunks that nonsense.
 
TC,
Funny how you like to cite all kinds of stuff and act as though it is proof yet you claim that a "wall breaching kit" was used to blow up the pentagon walls and when asked to provide proof you slither off.
 
tc239 said:
debunks that nonsense.


Total Bovine Scatology. I didn't see anything in there about the transfer beam. Apparently they weren't aware of how the building was built either, which accounts for them saying stupid things like the bomb couldn't have done all that damage. They (and you) are missing the point. The bomb didn't do all that damage. All the bomb had to do was take out the transfer beam. Once that was gone, gravity did the rest. Which explains why only the front of the building collapsed.

They also keep talking about cutting charges on vertical columns. Again, they don't seem to be aware of the transfer beam. That transfer beam was found lying on its side just inside the building. The blast wave from the bomb rolled it back off its supporting columns leaving the upper floors unsupported. Please tell me how cutting charges would accomplish that.


Steve S.
 
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Seriously, 8 out of 10 of your links were to "jewsreallydidit.com".

The only thing you left out in your post spam was the sentence "I'm not an anti-semite, but this eerily matches the pattern laid out in the Protocols of Zion".

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Virgil+Steele+okc

its real easy to corroborate all of the claims instead of ad-homs directed at the source used.

you guys cant possibly get anymore transparent around here.......
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Virgil+Steele+okc

its real easy to corroborate all of the claims instead of ad-homs directed at the source used.

you guys cant possibly get anymore transparent around here.......
from your first 3 results:

The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing - PROOF there were additional ...
Virgil Steele is the elevator inspector who discovered that the story ... GREER did work in that office for FEMA at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing. ...
www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/bombs.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this


HOTT - Oklahoma City Bombing Cover-Up
It's time to collect all the hard facts about Oklahoma City, ... Virgil Steele is the elevator inspector who discovered that the story told by a senior BATF ...
www.hourofthetime.com/okcbombingcoverup.html - 28k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this


The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing - PROOF there were additional ...
The Oklahoma City Bombing. PROOF there were additional explosive charges. ... Virgil Steele is the elevator inspector who discovered that the story told by ...
www.veteranhosting.net/okc_bombs/bombs.htm - 6k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

even just looking at the snippet the search page gives you they are obviously all c/p'd from the same source, thats not corroboration
 
from your first 3 results:

even just looking at the snippet the search page gives you they are obviously all c/p'd from the same source, thats not corroboration

you're right.

all those other sites are using the same sworn affidavits as a source.

now is there some proof that this is a mike rivero/wrh forgery?

if not then the source i used for the sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses is irrelevant as these are real documents which you too can get a copy of.
 
you're right.

all those other sites are using the same sworn affidavits as a source.

now is there some proof that this is a mike rivero/wrh forgery?

if not then the source i used for the sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses is irrelevant as these are real documents which you too can get a copy of.
if you want to call other members on attacking the host of the statement you are free to do that, but dont claim they are corroborated by showing another site hosting them (and clearly plagiarizing eachother)
 
Please note I will put everyone on ignore who uses ad-homs in this thread.
Anyone who believes that the evidence cited in the OP provides a clear-cut case for a conspiracy is a complete whack-job.

How'd I do, TC? Did I make the cut?
 
if you want to call other members on attacking the host of the statement you are free to do that, but dont claim they are corroborated by showing another site hosting them (and clearly plagiarizing eachother)


is it your claim that these sworn affidavits are forgeries or that the witnesses are lying?

yes or no.
 
Anyone who believes that the evidence cited in the OP provides a clear-cut case for a conspiracy is a complete whack-job.

How'd I do, TC? Did I make the cut?

In a letter dated May 17, 1995, hand-delivered to each member of the Congress and Senate General Benton K. Partin. A retired U.S. Air Force Brigadier General said :

When I first saw the pictures of the truck-bomb's asymmetrical damage to the Federal Building, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges at some of the reinforcing concrete column bases…. For a simplistic blast truck-bomb, of the size and composition reported, to be able to reach out on the order of 60 feet and collapse a reinforced column base the size of column A-7 is beyond credulity.

Another man who knows a thing or two about bombs is Samuel Cohen, inventor of the Neutron Bomb. Cohen began his career on the Manhattan Project at Los Alamos, where he was charged with studying the effects of the atomic bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. During his 40 year career, Cohen worked with every application of nuclear weapons design and testing.

Cohen stated his position in a letter to Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key:
It would have been absolutely impossible and against the laws of nature for a truck full of fertilizer and fuel oil… no matter how much was used… to bring the building down.


how do you think you did?
 
This is the dictation tape made by a lawyer which captures the sounds of the blast which destroyed the Oklahoma Federal Building on April 19th, 1995. Note the sounds of a rattle which precedes the blast by one second. This sound is the surface wave from the ANFO Truck Bomb which arrives ahead of the airborne concussion, traveling through the Earth's surface. 4.2 seconds ahead of the start of the rattle, a "thump" is heard on the tape, overlapping the second syllable of the word "attorneys".

MP3

Events marked on the jpg file

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/spectrum2.jpg


1. The thump at -4.2 seconds.
2. An airborne event which arrives at the correct place to be associated with event 1, if it originates at the same location as the truck bomb itself.
3. This marks the start of the arrival of the surface wave from the truck bomb. On the tape, this can be heard as a rattle building under the lawyer's voice. Note that unlike the lawyer's voiceprints, which show clear banding in frequency, the sounds from the truck bomb surface wave are smoothly distributed in the lower frequencies.
4. This is the arrival of the airborne concussion from the truck bomb. Like the surface wave, this signal lacks the striations of the lawyer's voice. The most notable difference is the sudden transition to high frequency components.

Note that the Surface Wave / Air Wave delays are identical in both cases, indicating similar distances from the recording device.

When I originally heard this tape, I discarded the "pop" at the -4.2 second mark as just noise on the tape. However, when the Water Board tape (which follows) also had an artifact at the -4.2 second mark, I ran a frequency domain audio spectrogram on the lawyer's dictation tape. The spike corresponding to the pop at the -4.2 second mark is circled. The other event marks were added later. The stripe at the top is electronic noise, possibly from the dictation machine itself.

At the time when the Truck Bomb exploded outside the Murrah Federal Building on April 19th, The Oklahoma Water Board was meeting in a building diagonally across the street. 4.2 seconds prior to the truck bomb blast, a loud "thump" is heard on the tape, just as the speaker finishes the phrase," are four elements that I have to..".

On this tape, the speaker pauses after the thump is heard, and just prior to the main blast, if you listen real close, other voices can be heard just starting to speak up.

MP3

From the above evidence, it is clear that an event which generated a high frequency surface wave which preceded the main truck bomb blast by 4.2 seconds. This event was recorded at two different locations at distances of 100 yards and 1/3 of a mile. Because the 4.2 second interval remains constant at both distances, theories of mechanism producing echoes are eliminated. Because the spectrogram of the lawyer's tape shows BOTH surface and airborne waves separated by 4.2 seconds from BOTH surface and airborne waves of the truck bomb, arguments of a surface/air phenomenon are invalid. Two events at the Murrah building 4.2 seconds apart produced two sets of surface/air pairs 4.2 seconds apart at the lawyer's office.

These images are scans of the seismographic output from the Norman Oklahoma Z-axis recorder for April 19th and May 23rd; the bombing and the demolition respectively. This is the raw data which led Ray Brown and Charles Mankin to decide that there may have been a second explosion. It turns out that the 10 second delay is caused by differing propagation times through the layers of shale and sandstone that lie under Oklahoma City.


April 19th: The Bombing of the Murrah Building
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok_geo.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/lo_19.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/hi_19.jpg

May 23rd: The Sequenced Demolition of the Murrah Building

The additional spikes on this record are caused by wind flexing the radio antenna which is used to transmit the data to the Oklahoma Geological Survey.

Seismographic record of the Murrah Building Demolition

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/lo_22.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/hi_22.jpg

Note that the 8 second long sequenced demolition of the remainder of the Murrah Building yielded a trace the same length as the original bombing. The first trace, if indeed a single explosion, should be shorter. But it isn't, suggesting that BOTH events consisted of multiple sequenced detonations over several seconds' duration.


I'm dubious about basing anything on poor-quality recordings.

I'm listening on Urei 809's in an anechoic room, and so I'm hearing a lot of detail.

I don't hear a buildup, and I don't understand about the 4.2 seconds.

What I hear on both recordings is an explosion that overloads the recorders, i.e., maxes out the auto-level control or limiter.
 
Do a little reading up on this Terry Yeakey. One of the first cops/first responders to show up on site to help. He was by all accounts regarded as a hero..........




Chief William Citty

Oklahoma City Police Department

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Roundhead, what is your source for that letter? I'll say it again: it is dishonest or at least disingenuous to fail to indicate your sources. Obviously it's copied from somewhere. Is this another Rule 4 situation?
 
Roundhead, what is your source for that letter? I'll say it again: it is dishonest or at least disingenuous to fail to indicate your sources. Obviously it's copied from somewhere. Is this another Rule 4 situation?

I fail to see what difference it makes as to who it is sourced from.Its a letter i copied verbatim....but, here is the source


http://www.riflewarrior.com/chief_william_citty.htm



Now if you have information this 27 year cop didnt write this letter, or its misquoted, lets see it.
 
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Home Page of Craig Roberts and Consolidated Press International




Craig Roberts has done it all...and written about it!

As an investigative journalist, his background includes four years in the United States Marine Corps as a rifleman and sniper, with one year of that in Vietnam (1965-66).

He is a retired Tulsa, Oklahoma police officer, having served as a patrol officer, investigator, TAC (Swat) team member, bomb tech, and helicopter pilot. During this time he had a parallel career in the military, serving in the Army Reserve as an infantry officer and intelligence officer. He retired in 2000 as a lieutenant colonel
 
I fail to see what difference it makes as to who it is sourced from.Its a letter i copied verbatim....but, here is the source


http://www.riflewarrior.com/chief_william_citty.htm



Now if you have information this 27 year cop didnt write this letter, or its misquoted, lets see it.


I believe Riflewarrior dot com is Wm. Craig Roberts' own site. He runs his own vanity press, too. He's a catch-all conspiradroid. Something fishy about everything to him.... from 911 to Lockerby to JFK to OKC to TWA800.

Knowing Roberts' work, the fact that he refers to it as "written to" rather than "sent to" is probably significant. It looks more like a blog article... or news op ed piece... sort of a "J'accuse!" for the modern era.
 
I believe Riflewarrior dot com is Wm. Craig Roberts' own site. He runs his own vanity press, too. He's a catch-all conspiradroid. Something fishy about everything to him.... from 911 to Lockerby to JFK to OKC to TWA800.

Knowing Roberts' work, the fact that he refers to it as "written to" rather than "sent to" is probably significant. It looks more like a blog article... or news op ed piece... sort of a "J'accuse!" for the modern era.



So, a personal attack on a veteran, and long time police official, who obviously was well thought of professionally, as he was asked to help.

More to the point, what of his accusations?. I have read accounts of the dead officers widow, his actions that morning, and his death, from other sources. What of the wrist lacerations, etc, and the case files?

And if you are going to belittle somebody, i assume you have proof Roberts didnt send a letter to both police chiefs, and wasnt qualified to state what he did??
 
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is it your claim that these sworn affidavits are forgeries or that the witnesses are lying?

yes or no.
ive already stated my position, the 2 additional explosive devices found in the building were training devices

of the other statements i read, some dont seem to be saying anything, other than an independent investigation is needed (without stating any reason why) and others speak authoritatively, without giving any reason why the person giving the statement should be regarded as an authority
 
So, a personal attack on a veteran, and long time police official, who obviously was well thought of professionally, as he was asked to help.

More to the point, what of his accusations?. I have read accounts of the dead officers widow, his actions that morning, and his death, from other sources. What of the wrist lacerations, etc, and the case files?

And if you are going to belittle somebody, i assume you have proof Roberts didnt send a letter to both police chiefs, and wasnt qualified to state what he did??

Please cite me the personal attack. Which part of my post is not true?
You throw around words without understanding their meaning. I simply stated the credentials as they are available for anyone with basic reading skills.

Is he not the owner of the vanity press in question?
Is he not a believer in every conspiracy theory of the last two generations?

You might also note that I said, "Knowing Roberts' work..." I am familiar with him as I am with Shannan's discredited account of the Yeakey death. It's late over here and I have to get up early for work, but maybe I can tag-in one of the others, here. There are numerous people here who know considerably more than I do about OKC. We've been through this before.
 
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