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Iraq War Justification - A Skeptics Resource

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This is a resource that should be of interest to skeptics no matter what side of the issue you occupy. It contains a searchable database of citations so you can independently verify your own position, contains a list of funders so you can decide if they are unduly influenced by $$$, and contains a methodology section so you can check whether they are biased.

Isn't that what a good skeptic wants?
 
I believe I already read many of those statements in Fiasco, but it seems to merit a bookmark.

I particularly remember Dick Cheney's claim that "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." A claim that has not stood up very well.

Equally bad was Colin Powell:
"My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." And then he went on to describe non-existant mobile bioweapons labs based on intelligence from "Curveball," a congenital liar that no-one in the US Intelligence community had even met in person. (To be fair to Powell, this was really George Tenet and the CIA's fault, because they assured Powell that all this was true and solid.)
 
Puppycow said:
I believe I already read many of those statements in Fiasco, but it seems to merit a bookmark.

I particularly remember Dick Cheney's claim that "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." A claim that has not stood up very well.

Equally bad was Colin Powell:
"My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." And then he went on to describe non-existant mobile bioweapons labs based on intelligence from "Curveball," a congenital liar that no-one in the US Intelligence community had even met in person. (To be fair to Powell, this was really George Tenet and the CIA's fault, because they assured Powell that all this was true and solid.)
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The story is more complex. Read tents book, Tent points out Al-qeada looked to acquire nuclear weapons from Dr. A. Q. Khan. Al-qeada was harbored and trainning inside the northern part of iraq -- Supposedly without Saddam knowing. And us Spending way too long in Iraq looking for WMD's after flawlessly toppling saddam is a good reason for their destablization. In other words, We totally messed it up staying too long, but that's what happens when you take a German spi code named CURVE BALL Infromation allow it in the NIE report, even though the CIA was highly against doing so, then have Powell Deliver it before the UN. It would have also helped if they used the NIE report that said "assess claims" not "definite claims" on biological, radiological, chemical, yellow cake, and WMD. Like tenet said they couldn't be 100% certain Saddam had WMD, but they all believed it. That's what happens when you take three weeks to throw together a NIE report instead of the required 3-6 months.
 
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The story is more complex. Read tents book, Tent points out Al-qeada looked to acquire nuclear weapons from Dr. A. Q. Khan. Al-qeada was harbored and trainning inside the northern part of iraq -- Supposedly without Saddam knowing. And us Spending way too long in Iraq looking for WMD's after flawlessly toppling saddam is a good reason for their destablization. In other words, We totally messed it up staying too long, but that's what happens when you take a German spi code named CURVE BALL Infromation allow it in the NIE report, even though the CIA was highly against doing so, then have Powell Deliver it before the UN. It would have also helped if they used the NIE report that said "assess claims" not "definite claims" on biological, radiological, chemical, yellow cake, and WMD. Like tenet said they couldn't be 100% certain Saddam had WMD, but they all believed it. That's what happens when you take three weeks to throw together a NIE report instead of the required 3-6 months.
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Who in Sam Hill is Tent?

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