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Oystein

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Hi fellow shills, trolls and agents provocateurs,

are you signed up to AE911Truth's newsletter? Has the deluge dried out for you, too?

In October, they sent me 6 love letters.
In November, 13.
In December, they gave me 15 chances to donate.
In January? Only one (on the 17th)
In February: ZERO.

Browsing back, I never got fewer than 4 newsletters in any calender month.

Strange.
The other strange thing is, that they are not updating the count of "Petition" signers, it's been stuck at 3,529 A&E, 30,984 "Members of the Public" since some time in the second half of December. Usually, they would update every few days.
(And no, this is not merely a matter of the numbers displayed, it's also the signatures listed. A download now has exactly the same file size as a download at the beginning of the year)

But they are on normal levels of busy with posting news items on their homepage and social media.

I wonder if they have tech/database problems. The (or a) database content is still reflected somehow on the public website, but perhaps their internal interfaces to edit and to do mass mailings are broken, or they have no one left in the office who knows how to do it?
 
Oystein said:
Hi fellow shills, trolls and agents provocateurs,

are you signed up to AE911Truth's newsletter? Has the deluge dried out for you, too?

In October, they sent me 6 love letters.
In November, 13.
In December, they gave me 15 chances to donate.
In January? Only one (on the 17th)
In February: ZERO.

Browsing back, I never got fewer than 4 newsletters in any calender month.

Strange.
The other strange thing is, that they are not updating the count of "Petition" signers, it's been stuck at 3,529 A&E, 30,984 "Members of the Public" since some time in the second half of December. Usually, they would update every few days.
(And no, this is not merely a matter of the numbers displayed, it's also the signatures listed. A download now has exactly the same file size as a download at the beginning of the year)

But they are on normal levels of busy with posting news items on their homepage and social media.

I wonder if they have tech/database problems. The (or a) database content is still reflected somehow on the public website, but perhaps their internal interfaces to edit and to do mass mailings are broken, or they have no one left in the office who knows how to do it?
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I don't get their newsletter, but I pop by their Facebook from time to time.

Lately their Facebook page has been featuring "Silverstein called his insurance company on 9/11 to ask permission to demolish WTC7" and "An FDNY Lieutenant said that he was told that the building was expected to collapse due to its instability or be taken down", or "The BBC reported on WTC 7 falling before it fell' or "The only possible explanation for this smoking debris falling from the WTC tower is nano-thermite" and so on.

Even some of the true believers are beginning to comment that maybe this is not the best kind of thing for them to be saying.
 
In any organisation which relies on a volunteer component it is usually just a few people or a couple of people that do all the work, I imagine truther organisations are no different.

I wonder if the move to displace Gage was part on some internal change of guard and the new guard are finding out that it is actually quite hard work.
 
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In any organisation which relies on a volunteer component it is usually just a few people or a couple of people that do all the work, I imagine truther organisations are no different.

I wonder if the move to displace Gage was part on some internal change of guard and the new guard are finding out that it is actually quite hard work.
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Well, AE has considerable funds, and for a long time, Gage was the only one with a serious full-time wage from it. In recent years, Kelly David also was fully salaried, and I believe others are by now moving up in the payroll as well.
This may have repercussions with the true volunteers, who maybe don't like the "professionalism" (read: grifting) of the new guard.
I don't know if the new (interim?) President, Roland Angle, now receives Gage's salary (was between 65k and 85k annually).

Looking over at richardgage911.org, where he is posting new content (often videos with interviews) at a high rate, I cannot but acknowledge that Gage is working hard.
 
AE was always a grifting operation... which exploited the gullible and stupid out there... who chose to believe grifters more than the USG or other reliable sources.
 
Richard Gage: “…that my comments had become a PR problem for AE911Truth and could continue to undermine future efforts to break into mainstream media, and so the board made the very tough decision to ask for my resignation as CEO.”

PR problem? This is funny as hell. They are pushing one of the stupidest conspiracy theories of all time, and they are worried about a PR problem. And breaking into mainstream media, that’s not happening anytime soon, if ever.

Say what you may about Gage, but he was the money-making engine that kept AE911Truth moving forward. It like Scientology without L. Ron Hubbard, it’s never going to be the same.
 
Did Ted Walter do the updates in the past? Is he still around or did he leave with Gage?
 
I suspect they have a bunch of new signers who will appear as a job lit . They aopear to be busy marketing themselves outside of the USA.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Did Ted Walter do the updates in the past? Is he still around or did he leave with Gage?
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Not that I know of.
They have a verifications team, headed by Xander Arena (as of last October at least), and a web team lead by Steve Olsen (since he is still on the Who We Are page after the changes of last September, I assume he was in that position also still by October at least). I would think that updates to the petition count are handled between those two.

Robin said:
I suspect they have a bunch of new signers who will appear as a job lit . They aopear to be busy marketing themselves outside of the USA.
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Absolutely, yes. I have not checked whether perhaps the function to sign up is buggy, but they always have a bit of a backlog of unverified older signers as well as some new signatures that come in on paper or otherwise informally that they could enter into the database. So even if they have a database problem, we would still expect for the number of signatories to increase somewhat from time to time.

It's happened before that they had not updated either the "A&E" or the "General Population" count for three or four weeks. You see, the verification team is, or was, organized to handle these two categories separately. If a staff member working "General Population" was unavailable and the other slacking for a bit, then the "A&E" verifications were still being done, or vice versa. Then, when they came back to work so to say, a larger number would sometimes be dumped within a few days.

To have both stalled for going on three months is out of character.
 
To answer the thread title, no I don't get AE911T newsletters. I don't want to contribute to their stats.
 
Today, after almost 3 months, they finally updated their signatures. Here are the latest values - for my own documentation:

Date|A&E|Others
16.12.21|3525|30997
29.12.21|3529|30985
01.01.22|3529|30984
19.03.22|3608|30776


So while they added 79 "architects and engineers" after 77 days, They subtracted 221 "general population" signatories in 93 days.
If I don't get distracted, I'll try to figure out tomorrow who they added and removed.
 
Oystein said:
Today, after almost 3 months, they finally updated their signatures. Here are the latest values - for my own documentation:

Date|A&E|Others
16.12.21|3525|30997
29.12.21|3529|30985
01.01.22|3529|30984
19.03.22|3608|30776


So while they added 79 "architects and engineers" after 77 days, They subtracted 221 "general population" signatories in 93 days.
If I don't get distracted, I'll try to figure out tomorrow who they added and removed.
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Quick result:
While the ae911truth.org front page says 3,608 A&E signatures, the download has 4 fewer - 3,604.
Of those, 99 are appended to the end of the list without a "category" (i.e. architect/engineer with/without license, or non-US AorE), and only 2 of those 99 are listed with any academic degree (both are B.S., Mechanical Engineering). Generally, their free-form bio reveals no formal architecture or engineering background, some say so openly ("No engineering/architecture education or experience"; "A human being with eyes..."; "I have a basic education...").

So in reality, they LOST about 20 of their professionals since the beginning of the year.

The download has some minor data problems, for examples the Country of residence is not listed at all.

http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE/
 
Oystein said:
Today, after almost 3 months, they finally updated their signatures. Here are the latest values - for my own documentation:

Date|A&E|Others
16.12.21|3525|30997
29.12.21|3529|30985
01.01.22|3529|30984
19.03.22|3608|30776


So while they added 79 "architects and engineers" after 77 days, They subtracted 221 "general population" signatories in 93 days.
If I don't get distracted, I'll try to figure out tomorrow who they added and removed.
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A major correction today:
3,511 A&E (-97)
30,876 Others (+100)

They shifted the 99 unclassified, or at least 97 of them, to the "General Population", as they should.

Date|A&E|Others
16.12.21|3525|30997
29.12.21|3529|30985
01.01.22|3529|30984
19.03.22|3608|30776
22.03.22|3511|30876

That's currently a net loss in both categories since December, of -18 and -121, respectively.
I expect more corrections in the coming days. The data still has kinks, for example the country of the signatory is still missing.

In the same time frame (last 3 months), they also lost nearly 2,000 "Likes" on Facebook, which just continues a trend that's in its 3rd year.
 
I have submitted another signature several days ago with a new email address. That email address received 2 newsletters (on March 16 and 17), but has not yet been added to the list of signatories.

My other signatories, years old, did not receive those, despite still being listed among the "General Population" signatories.
 
Yes, i do.

Recently, AE911Truth has been conducting in-depth research into several aspects of what took place at Building 7 before the 47-story high-rise was demolished at 5:20 PM that day.



There is an enormous amount of information — ranging from several explosions inside the building to interior structural damage to the strange decision to abandon firefighting efforts and more. Once pulled together and brought into focus, it will paint a very clear picture of what was really going on.
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Not sure why they have an issue, with firefighters not trying to put out a fire on that day, after they had no water, no one in the building, and information that the building was unstable, and perhaps the fact, they had already lost so many colleagues. Just spitballing here of course
 
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Gage mentioned chemtrails once. Perhaps thats why they kicked him
 
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Jaytje46 said:
Gage mentioned chemtrails once. Perhaps thats why they kicked him
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According to Box Boy himself, they booted him because his stupid comments about the Covid-19 vaccine made Spike Lee take the conspiracy theory section out of his 9-11 movie on HBO.
 
AE only exists because people are stupid, naive and uneducated about the facts and the events of 9/11 AND are willing to believe what amounts to a snake oil salesman who is on an ego trip and looking to cash out. An intelligent person who examines the facts rejects AE and Gage as fraudulent. People do not trust the mainstream media and so they are open to "alternate" realities. Pathetic.
 
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