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Anticipatory Compliance

Masha Gessen gives several other examples here:

[...] For me, it began before the election, when the owners of The Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post decided to pull their papers’ endorsements of Kamala Harris for president. It continued with Mark Zuckerberg remaking Meta to reflect what he called the “cultural tipping point” that was the presidential election; with ABC News handing over millions of dollars in response to one of Trump’s frivolous lawsuits and CBS considering doing the same; and most recently, with the great erasure: of records of trans care for minors provided by hospitals and of diversity-and-inclusion policies at many universities and corporations. Now some universities are quietly retooling their programming in hopes of conforming with expectations that have not yet been clearly laid out.​
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I am talking not about deletions of pages from government websites, such as those of the White House and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, presumably mandated by newly installed officials; I am talking about actions that individual people or private institutions took pre-emptively, with some measure of free will.​

What these examples all have in common is that the corporate boards or CEOs seem to be working to obey orders which haven't even been drafted or promulgated yet, in the hopes of ingratiating themselves to the ruling party and its devotees.
 
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Well, corporations only deal with income. If it brings them favors and income, they do it. Dome corporations dealing with consumers do adjust to a more neutral way. Compare Target and Wal Mart. But...corporations do not have babies. They do not have a view on anything related. Unless they are a Christian craft store.
 
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There's really no way of knowing. Maybe it's a preemptive move to avoid more taxation if they don't abide by DEI legislation that may or may not come up later. Or maybe it's just that they never liked it but had to due to popular sentiment.

Kinda thinking more the latter, but my best friend is a very leftist polio-disabled retired federal prosecutor who hates the concept.
 
If I was running a company, I wouldn't claim that it's doing so badly that DEI might be the death of it.
 
Susheel said:
So...let me get this straight...any non-white christian male hired to any post is a DEI hire?
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Not at all as per the strict definition. But absolutely YES as far as Project 2025 goes. "DEI hire" is yet another of their inflammatory buzzwords that is interchangeable with "socialist", "commie", "librul", "leftie", "Democrat" and "cuck". They mean nothing.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Not at all as per the strict definition. But absolutely YES as far as Project 2025 goes. "DEI hire" is yet another of their inflammatory buzzwords that is interchangeable with "socialist", "commie", "librul", "leftie", "Democrat" and "cuck". They mean nothing.
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I am wondering what the new one will be, I'd always said the right wing's "political correctness" straw man was the best example of their propaganda but they have excelled with their strawman of DEI. But perhaps too well? It's now gone so what will they use next?
 
So how are they going to identify the incompetent male white guys in the organization that may be the real spanner in the gears. Oh right...they are the ◊◊◊◊ that floated to the top, right?
 
Susheel said:
So...let me get this straight...any non-white christian male hired to any post is a DEI hire?
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The goal of DEI is to promote workplace diversity, anyone hired because of demographic characteristics (which are not themselves job qualifications, generally) is a DEI hire. For a real world example, consider this memorandum laying out applicant pool goals by sex/race/ethnicity. Assuming the USAF backs off these goals before being ordered to do so, that would be an example of anticipatory compliance in the DEI policy space.
 
Or how about this, maybe DEI was established to ensure that a less competent white male preferably Christian wasn't preferred over someone more competent who didn't happen to match those qualities because of a skewed selection process?
 
I mean...maybe? In person interviews tend to be skewed on account of homophilyWP which is a nearly universal bias.
 
d4m10n said:
I mean...maybe? In person interviews tend to be skewed on account of homophilyWP which is a nearly universal bias.
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There are some studies to back this up where they've shown that resumes of fictional people with 'white' sounding names got more call backs than people with 'ethnic' sounding names.

I remember sitting in a room looking at resumes with a team and there was one person whose first name was Jjajj. My english tongue couldn't even begin to figure out how to pronounce that and the name overshadowed what was otherwise a very solid list of qualifications.
 
LiteBright said:
There are some studies to back this up where they've shown that resumes of fictional people with 'white' sounding names got more call backs than people with 'ethnic' sounding names.

I remember sitting in a room looking at resumes with a team and there was one person whose first name was Jjajj. My english tongue couldn't even begin to figure out how to pronounce that and the name overshadowed what was otherwise a very solid list of qualifications.
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I recall sitting in a room going over resumes with other managers and one person saying "This guy sounds black" as they tossed the resume in the garbage. It was stunning; I retrieved it, saying "Yeah, we can't do that." That person retired soon after. Every time I hear someone bleat that discrimination in hiring is overblown, or non-existent, I relate that story.
 
d4m10n said:
I'm looking for examples of anticipatory compliance on the part of corporate actors during the first or second Trump term.
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Here's a great one, from atop the legal profession:

Kate McNamara (@katemcnamara.bsky.social)

Skadden's action “in our view, represents a lack of moral courage and a capitulation to political coercion that threatens the integrity and independence of the legal profession.” Well done @georgetownlaw.bsky.social students. Only by standing up for the rule of law will you be able to practice...
bsky.app bsky.app
 
Susheel said:
So how are they going to identify the incompetent male white guys in the organization that may be the real spanner in the gears. Oh right...they are the ◊◊◊◊ that floated to the top, right?
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Start requiring breathalyzer tests. anyone above a .1 gets promoted after they super pinky swear to quit drinking
 
d4m10n said:
The goal of DEI is to promote workplace diversity, anyone hired because of demographic characteristics (which are not themselves job qualifications, generally) is a DEI hire. For a real world example, consider this memorandum laying out applicant pool goals by sex/race/ethnicity. Assuming the USAF backs off these goals before being ordered to do so, that would be an example of anticipatory compliance in the DEI policy space.
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USAF hasn't backed off yet, but USNA has done so fairly publicly.

www.pbs.org

U.S. Naval Academy ends affirmative action in admissions following Trump order

The U.S. Naval Academy will no longer consider race, ethnicity or sex as a factor for admission to the service institution, a response to an executive order by President Donald Trump, according to federal court documents made public Friday.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

apnews.com

Naval Academy removes nearly 400 books from library in new DEI purge ordered by Hegseth's office

U.S. officials say the U.S. Naval Academy has removed nearly 400 books from its library after being told by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s office to review and get rid of books that promote diversity, equity and inclusion.
apnews.com apnews.com
 
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In Denmark:
Trump erklærer kamp mod DEI: Her er tre dekreter, danske virksomheder skal være opmærksomme på (Danske Erhverv, Feb , 2025)
Præsident Trump har indført en række ændringer med stor betydning for virksomheders HR-praksis, herunder især arbejde i forhold til ”diversity, equity and inclusion” (DEI) og ”equal employement opportunity” (EEO). Danske virksomheder, der opererer i USA, bør tage nøje bestik af disse ændringer, da de kan være eksponeret for en øget juridisk risiko afhængig af eksisterende praksis og politikker.
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Trump declares war on DEI: Here are three decrees Danish companies should be aware of
President Trump has introduced a number of changes with great significance for companies' HR practices, including in particular work in relation to "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) and "equal employment opportunity" (EEO). Danish companies operating in the US should take a close look at these changes, as they may be exposed to increased legal risk depending on existing practices and policies.

'LGBTQ' og 'diversitet' er forsvundet fra Legos årsrapport (DR.dk, Mar 28, 2025)
En række virksomheder har efter Trumps indsættelse ændret kurs og betragter nu diversitetsinitiativer på en ny måde, fortæller erhvervsjournalist.
Før var buzz-ord som inklusion, køn og diversitet nogle, som virksomheder med stolthed markedsførte sig på.
Men noget har ændret sig. Flere virksomheder er begyndt at skrue ned for brugen af den type ord - heriblandt den danske legetøjskoncern Lego.
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'LGBTQ' and 'diversity' have now disappeared from Lego's annual report
After Trump's inauguration, several companies have changed their policies and are now looking at diversity initiatives in a different way, according to businessjournalist.
Buzz words like inclusion, gender and diversity used to be words that companies were proud to use for marketing purposes.
But something has changed. Several companies have started to decrease their use of that kind of words - one of them is the Danish toy company Lego.

And in all of the EU, too:
LEGO bøjer knæet for Trump – og nu gør et giftigt brev det hele endnu værre (Berlingske.dk, Mar 31, 2025)
En håndfuld danske virksomheder har fået et brev fra Trump om at droppe mangfoldighed. LEGO, Novo Nordisk og mange andre virksomheder er nu en lus mellem to negle, ligesom de skal håndtere deres eget hykleri. Et særligt EU-direktiv spøger i kulissen.
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LEGO bends the knee to Trump - and now a poisonous letter makes everything even worse
A number of Danish companies got a letter from Trump telling them to drop diversity. LEGO, Novo Nordic and many other companies now find themselves between a rock and a hard place, and they also have to cope with their own hypocrisy. A particular EU directive may be on the way.

Somehow, I'm constantly reminded of that old song:

ETA: Maybe there'll be some kind of pushback.
Denmark, Netherlands React to Trump's DEI Ultimatum (Newsweek, April 2, 2025)
Danish official called for the European Union (EU) to mount a united response to President Donald Trump's instruction that foreign companies with American contracts should comply with his orders against diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).
Meanwhile, a Dutch minister said she was not aware of any Trump orders to firms in the Netherlands, but warned that similar orders targeting Europe create "more uncertainty" for them.
The comments from Denmark and the Netherlands follow letters sent by the Trump Administration ordering French companies with U.S. government contracts to comply with its executive orders banning DEI initiatives.
Firms elsewhere in Europe also received the missives under the Executive Order on Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity (EO 14173).
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I would have hoped that the EU firms, or the EU on their behalf, told the US embassies, et al, to ◊◊◊◊ off. When you're in someone else's country, you abide by their laws, not seek to impose yours on them.
 
zooterkin said:
I would have hoped that the EU firms, or the EU on their behalf, told the US embassies, et al, to ◊◊◊◊ off. When you're in someone else's country, you abide by their laws, not seek to impose yours on them.
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There are no laws in the US against DEI. There's only Trumpff's stupid braying.
 
Being an ex-LEGO employee I am very, very disappointed with LEGO's response (if it's true that it has dropped its internal "DEI") one of its 5 values is "Creativity" which is meant to be about self-expression and play your own way.
 
Very surprised to see any international response, even knowing that the U.S. market for LEGO is pretty strong.
 
Darat said:
Being an ex-LEGO employee I am very, very disappointed with LEGO's response (if it's true that it has dropped its internal "DEI") one of its 5 values is "Creativity" which is meant to be about self-expression and play your own way.
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I think it's probably true:
Lego skruer ned for det, Trump vil gøre op med: - De forsøger at gå under radaren (Erhverv+, Mar 30, 2025)
Efter Trump-sejr: Lego i kæmpe kovending (EkstraBladet, Mar 28, 2025)
Niels Lunde: Lego bøjer sig for Trump (Børsen, Mar 21, 2025)
Fra frontløber til bundplads: Lego ramt af Trump-chok? (CSR.dk)
LEGO accused of minimizing diversity and inclusion effort in latest sustainability report (BrickFanatics, April 1, 2025)
 
Darat said:
Being an ex-LEGO employee I am very, very disappointed with LEGO's response (if it's true that it has dropped its internal "DEI") one of its 5 values is "Creativity" which is meant to be about self-expression and play your own way.
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They saw the trade threat from the US and bricked it.
 
d4m10n said:
Very surprised to see any international response, even knowing that the U.S. market for LEGO is pretty strong.
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Presumably the US government doesn't buy much in the way of Lego (or in the US Legos). Will US children stop buying Lego(s) because of DEI policy? Is Trump threatening to increase tariffs on goods manufactured by companies with DEI policies?

Could EU insist that US companies wanting to export to the EU have DEI policies (and not employ child labo(u)r?
 
Planigale said:
Presumably the US government doesn't buy much in the way of Lego (or in the US Legos). Will US children stop buying Lego(s) because of DEI policy?
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For the most part, I doubt that children are the ones who buy Legos.
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Is Trump threatening to increase tariffs on goods manufactured by companies with DEI policies?
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I think that this is still about anticipatory compliance, but when he sends letters to companies abroad, the threat seems to be at least implied - like most of his threats.
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Could EU insist that US companies wanting to export to the EU have DEI policies (and not employ child labo(u)r?
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I don't see why not.

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