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Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

Scorpion said:
In any case it did not always happen. So I would be useless as a test subject.
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As Pixel42 pointed out, you don't have to do it every time; just more often than chance. Surely that is a low hanging fruit? Or recommend someone if you have no ability left. Millions of dollars might be theirs!

But the odd thing with paranormal abilities is that they never work more often than chance. Never.
 
Scorpion said:
Well I have not really thought about that. But I would ask you the opposite,
what happens to a psychically sensitive child if their parents deny the childs feelings, and tell them they are imagining things? I myself know what that feels like.
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Probably the same thing happens if you tell a child there is no Santa Claus. It hurts and violates what they think, but it is real life none the less.
 
Scorpion said:
Well I have not really thought about that. But I would ask you the opposite,
what happens to a psychically sensitive child if their parents deny the childs feelings, and tell them they are imagining things? I myself know what that feels like.
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There haven't been many replies to my posts, but I have to ask, what does psychically sensitive mean?
 
I have been trying to follow your description, but I am a bit confused. If I may ask several questions, it may clear up my understanding.

1) after we physically die our spiritual energy goes to a higher (?) realm or plane, is there a name for this location or level?

2) when in this plane, we can remember our most recent Earth-life (as evidenced from our ability to contact still living people with details of our lives). Can we remember all our previous lives?

3) when in this plane, can we communicate with others in this plane? Do the more enlightened souls try to teach things to the less enlightened souls? Do souls get to watch what is happening on Earth? Do these observations provide learning experiences for the souls or is learning completely limited to souls that are living on Earth.

4) why would hearing a voice before winning a lottery be considered an astronomically rare event? Most of the lottery players (and other gamblers) I have encountered often describe having a strong feeling, or emotional revelation , or sudden insight indicating that success is imminent.

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You seem very happy with your belief system. I have no desire to talk you out of it.
 
Donn said:
What are these psychic phenomena?
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Things like the presence of spirits, or psychic energy.

Sensitive people can see hear or feel such things. It is called Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, or Clairsentience.
 
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Scorpion said:
Well I have not really thought about that. But I would ask you the opposite,
what happens to a psychically sensitive child if their parents deny the childs feelings, and tell them they are imagining things? I myself know what that feels like.
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A loving parent would explain to their child where the flaw in their wishful thinking is, and correct that.
It is the parents that bring up Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy... and then have to work around (evade) any questions a thoughtful child might have.
And these same parents will be exposing their child to the fantasies of religion, with their gods and angels and demons and saints and sinners.
The thoughtful child might think "WTF?"... silently of course, and hope for more enlightenment from other sources.
 
Scorpion said:
Things like the presence of spirits, or psychic energy.

Sensitive people can see hear or feel such things. It is called Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, or Clairsentience.
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Okay, so these abilities to sense those phenomena - are they different from things like creativity, storytelling, play, and other typical childish pursuits?

Are they different enough that they can be divided-off and studied?

Should not, by now, Doctors know how to diagnose a psychically sensitive child and provide appropriate guidance to parents? I'd imagine this would be very helpful, say to avoid wrongful diagnosis of ADHD or certain mental illnesses.
 
Donn said:
Okay, so these abilities to sense those phenomena - are they different from things like creativity, storytelling, play, and other typical childish pursuits?

Are they different enough that they can be divided-off and studied?

Should not, by now, Doctors know how to diagnose a psychically sensitive child and provide appropriate guidance to parents? I'd imagine this would be very helpful, say to avoid wrongful diagnosis of ADHD or certain mental illnesses.
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I believe some children experience real psychic phenomena, and it is the luck of the draw how they are treated by their parents. Believers would encourage them and unbelievers would take them to psychiatrists.
It is my experience that the medical profession mostly diagnose psychic people as schizophrenic, or some such condition.
 
Scorpion said:
I believe some children experience real psychic phenomena, and it is the luck of the draw how they are treated by their parents. Believers would encourage them and unbelievers would take them to psychiatrists.
It is my experience that the medical profession mostly diagnose psychic people as schizophrenic, or some such condition.
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No offense but have you been diagnozed with such a condition?
 
Resume said:
No offense but have you been diagnozed with such a condition?
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Yes, and I guess that invalitates my opinions completely as far as most people here are concerned. I was put in hospital only once in my life in 1969 and was an out patient for two years. But when I found out they could not cure me I went to spiritualist churches. There I got healing (which I could often feel as energy and heat) and I gradually learned about the chakras, and how to close my aura and such.
 
Scorpion said:
Yes, and I guess that invalitates my opinions completely as far as most people here are concerned. I was put in hospital only once in my life in 1969 and was an out patient for two years. But when I found out they could not cure me I went to spiritualist churches. There I got healing (which I could often feel as energy and heat) and I gradually learned about the chakras, and how to close my aura and such.
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Scorpion,

Can you (or anyone you know) see auras? If so, that's an easy thing to test and a much surer way to make money than the lottery.

Ward
 
wardenclyffe said:
Scorpion,

Can you (or anyone you know) see auras? If so, that's an easy thing to test and a much surer way to make money than the lottery.

Ward
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I think lots of people can see auras, and it is up to them if they want to try and get the money. But I cannot, I just feel psychic energy. However I am sure I could strengthen my auras defenses by my will, as I could feel the effects. I attended a healing class by the late medium Ursula Roberts in the spiritualist association London. And I learned how to build my defenses against negative energies.
 
Scorpion said:
I think lots of people can see auras, and it is up to them if they want to try and get the money. But I cannot, I just feel psychic energy.
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Why not test this, then? We could have a spiritualist stand behind you. They would be told in advance whether to project energy, or just stand there. You would then record whether or not you sensed something.

Repeat this several times, and see if you are correct more often than chance would predict.
 
Scorpion said:
I guess that invalitates my opinions completely as far as most people here are concerned.
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What invalidates - or at least casts considerable doubt on - your opinions is that you have not a shred of objective evidence to support them, and every single time they've been put to the test they've been shown to be mistakes due to well known and well understood cognitive biases.
 
Scorpion said:
Yes, and I guess that invalitates my opinions completely as far as most people here are concerned. I was put in hospital only once in my life in 1969 and was an out patient for two years. But when I found out they could not cure me I went to spiritualist churches. There I got healing (which I could often feel as energy and heat) and I gradually learned about the chakras, and how to close my aura and such.
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So you credit the churches for your healing? Do they encourage this idea?
 
Hokulele said:
Why not test this, then? We could have a spiritualist stand behind you. They would be told in advance whether to project energy, or just stand there. You would then record whether or not you sensed something.

Repeat this several times, and see if you are correct more often than chance would predict.
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I cannot imagine that working out, as only some healers are powerful enough for me to feel the energy, and most of them would not be likely to want to get involved. Besides the healing energy is directed down through the healer by spirits that would almost certainly distain such an effort.
But I know I have felt healing energy, and on some occasions the energy has stayed with me for several days after healing, until it ebbed away.
 
Resume said:
So you credit the churches for your healing? Do they encourage this idea?
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I have not even been to a spiritualist church for years, as I do not need healing any more. There was one church I went to about thirty years ago that made some attempt to document my case, but I drifted away so nothing came of it.
 
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