wollclark
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We all know Putin is insane. But how insane?
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We all know Putin is insane. But how insane?
LSSBB
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Meh, so is Kim Jong Il. To a point...
angrysoba
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Good news if it is true. Peace in our time and all that...
Why Russia? Well, because obviously it is a player in this conflict. However, why the US and why the EU?
Indeed.
Not according to some sources:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/17/vladimir-putin-admirers-india-china-ukraine
No.
Do we "know" Putin is insane? This was bandied about before by people with no evidence or medical qualifications and regularly is. We don't know Putin is anything of the sort.
Kim Jong il is dead. Completely dead.
angrysoba
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Just to avoid confusion, I am not actually of the opinion that the US and EU should not be involved. It's a good idea to involve them. But it's obviously a good idea to involve Russia as well, especially if they are going to do as they say they will and help to persuade the pro-Russian militias to disarm.
Looks also like a general amnesty and some power-sharing is going to be the carrot for the pro-Russian militias so the idea of putting them on trial for treason is a non-starter.
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And the Russian assassin who escaped into the woods...
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What makes you think he's insane?
Demands That Jews Register in Eastern Ukraine Are Denounced, and Denied
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/w...in-ukraine-are-denounced-and-denied.html?_r=0
The flyers were probably distributed by random nutters adding to the chaos.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/w...in-ukraine-are-denounced-and-denied.html?_r=0
The flyers were probably distributed by random nutters adding to the chaos.
Childlike Empress
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Yeah, Orphia makes it three times. Can't hurt, can it?
btw, "Prosecutie" was finally autotuned - 3 million views in a good two days.
Enjoy:
btw, "Prosecutie" was finally autotuned - 3 million views in a good two days.
Enjoy:
What's been done three times? I don't see the NYT link posted anywhere, but I only read the last 50 posts or so.
Childlike Empress
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Euromaidan asks Donetsk Rabbi who received the stuff, CNN reports it with their own spin, NYT reports it with their own spin. Me, carlitos, you. You're late, girl.
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So you've dismissed it as spin. Good to know it's true then.
ETA: or do you mean the story about the Jews having to register was spin? If so, I agree.
And good to know nobody had posted the link. Sorry to not conform to your spin.
ETA: or do you mean the story about the Jews having to register was spin? If so, I agree.
And good to know nobody had posted the link. Sorry to not conform to your spin.
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angrysoba
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I think what CE means is that the Chief Rabbi of Donetsk himself disputes that the leaflets he and his congregation received came from the alleged source - the self-proclaimed head of the self-proclaimed Republic of Donetsk:
And CE's source is the Euromaidan.
That's not the endgame. The endgame is dealing with the mess he caused. If yesterday's deal is any indication, he already realized he's not up to it. It could easily be a rouse however.
McHrozni
First of all, the referendum in Crimea wasn't democratic by any meaning of the word I'm aware of. Second, Ukraine has called for presidential elections in a way that enables democratic process. So you have no point there at all.
You could also end the sentence with "at all", rather than pointing out the irrelevant military deployment who killed no one, as it happens. There were a few deaths, when a crowd of sheep attacked a military base. Each one of those deserves a Darwin award.
Yeah, and a high court declared that illegal, and ordered Russian propaganda back on the air - in the time of war, mind you. This is what happened. Fascists don't bow to courts, if they do they aren't fascists.
McHrozni
^ Doesn't count anymore.
It does show what an actual Nazi government would do though. Nothing like anything done by Kiev, and yet Russian propaganda incessantly denounces it to be Nazi, fascist and whatnot. Mainly because they have supporters of a guy who spent just 3 years in a Nazi political prison, but preferred them over Communists for about 2 months.
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angrysoba
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Looks like "Donetsk People's Republic" has rejected the deal made in Geneva.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27076226
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27076226
Ah. So since they failed they didn't even try.
That must be nice for the guys form the free republic thingy. When they fail to establish their own state, all is forgotten and forgiven. (But let me guess: Attempts don't count only applies to the other guys)
Big surprise there. Luckily enough, defying a deal agreed upon everyone will only hurt their standing. A few more shenanigans like this, and they'll be removed by the population.
If they were fascists the court would rule in their favor, or the judge in question would find himself loosing family members, or being arrested on trumped up charges. None of that happened near as I can tell. Governments do things they must rescind due to legal challenges regularly, this is just a slightly more objectionable issues - but understandable, given the situation.
I told you this before, but you chose the straw man for some reason.
McHrozni
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My avatar is not a Drumpf hat
Are you relieved or disappointed?^ Doesn't count anymore.
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