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Do Democrats only win through voter fraud?

Travis

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The possible beginnings of a new meme? This is two accusations against Democrats for voter fraud in as many days.

Are all Democrats thieves and cheaters? Is that a valid summation of the American Democrat? Of course not. That would be an ignorant allegation. Let me tell you what’s not so ignorant. They may represent only a small percentage of Democrats, but that’s all you need for massive rape of the results and reversal of the legitimate public will. We on the other side are vacuous, insipid and myopic. Get ready to get swallowed.

I’m not saying I do a good job. All I’m saying is, my job is keeping up with things like Republican plans to thwart election theft. And I’ve heard nothing, read nothing and know nothing about any meaningful Republican response.

There are more Republican governors than there are Democrats. If I were a Republican governor, I’d pick the half-dozen angriest and smartest activists in my party to look for the holes and vulnerabilities in our voting defenses and plug them up immediately. Don’t states still have legislatures? Can we ramrod through laws providing for five-year prison terms for those convicted of vote fraud?
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Democratic voters across this country are voting four times, five times, 10 times each for the Democrats.
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Travis said:
The possible beginnings of a new meme? This is two accusations against Democrats for voter fraud in as many days.



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Beginning of a new meme? I highly doubt it. My Tea Party friend was fond of jumping on anything that might be related to voter fraud by Democrats around the last presidential election... and was incredibly terrible at actually backing up his claims at the time, which led to me seeing some older claims. Much, much later, he came up with some potential cases where there might have been issues, but most of the claims very much didn't withstand even very basic scrutiny.
 
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They need this as cover for their voter disenfranchisement efforts.
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It certainly felt like it, before, with all the blatant attempts to do exactly that, before. Distributing incorrect teaching materials on the subject, raising the bar on voter requirements in ways that are intended to make it harder to vote for groups that tend to lean towards Democrat, ostensibly to fight a form of voter fraud that they were unable to demonstrate occurred practically at all, shortening voting hours to times when many lower income people are stuck going to work, and so on.
 
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Voter fraud is practically non-existent in this country. Think about it -- it would be incredibly difficult to organize it with any impactful numbers and still keep it secret. Now, does the occasional criminal, like Ann Coulter, register and vote from a fraudulent address? Sure. But it's no where near enough to change an election result.
 
hgc said:
Voter fraud is practically non-existent in this country. Think about it -- it would be incredibly difficult to organize it with any impactful numbers and still keep it secret. Now, does the occasional criminal, like Ann Coulter, register and vote from a fraudulent address? Sure. But it's no where near enough to change an election result.
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Not the kinds of voter fraud that the legislation the Republicans pushed could address, at least.

There's a bit more potential that there was some voter fraud in precincts where Romney received 0 votes, though, as the article notes, that generally happened in areas that were extremely Democratic and not happy with Romney at all anyways.
 
Mike! said:
Relevant?
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...assive-voter-fraud-in-north-carolina-n1818137
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Somewhat. "Massive" is very much overstating the numbers, again, though. What I'm seeing the article actually say is that there's likely about 800 cases of voter fraud that may have been caught. 81, very likely, maybe 846 if all of the next most likely category actually were fraud, which is unlikely, and the chances are that the nearly 36,000 in the other category are not actually fraud. It's good if the Republicans are at least a tiny bit vindicated, despite what seemed to be an inability to provide even a decent case with the information that they actually had... much as who the dead people and multiple voters they claim were identified actually voted for would be interesting. I highly doubt that it's even remotely as Democratic leaning as those who were pushing the laws try to make people assume that it is.
 
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We can stop voter fraud by eliminating early voting and voting after working hours. This works because......magic.
 
Democratic voters across this country are voting four times, five times, 10 times each for the Democrats.
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How come I wasn't informed I could do this? I've been a registered Democrat for over 30 years. Is there a secret handshake or something that no one told me about?
 
Short answer, no.

Long answer. If you take the difficulty+risk:reward ratio for having someone come in and cast a vote that they were not legally entitled to and compare it to other methods of election tampering like ballot-box stuffing or equipment tampering, the idea that “voter fraud” is a significant problem is just stupid. Anyone with the resources to rig an election by hiring people to fraudulently vote in significant numbers and keep them silent about the whole thing would probably just bribe some computer programmer to hack the machines.
 
Spindrift said:
How come I wasn't informed I could do this? I've been a registered Democrat for over 30 years. Is there a secret handshake or something that no one told me about?
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All you have to do is vote, then get back in line and vote again. It's that easy!
 
Mike! said:
Relevant?
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...assive-voter-fraud-in-north-carolina-n1818137
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Well, relevant to the OP in that it's a ridiculous accusation of voter fraud. When they can show evidence that:
a) these were the same people registered multiple times and not just 36,000 people across 28 states (how many millions of people is that?) who have the same names and month and date of birth, and
b) these are not simply cases of people having moved from one state to another without having been purged from the previous state's voter registry, and
c) that any of these people actually voted,
then they may have a case of fraud.
 
wareyin said:
Well, relevant to the OP in that it's a ridiculous accusation of voter fraud. When they can show evidence that:
a) these were the same people registered multiple times and not just 36,000 people across 28 states (how many millions of people is that?) who have the same names and month and date of birth,
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Well, by the look of it, the last four numbers of their Social Security Numbers don't match, in that category, since those were represented as an entirely different category. Chances are pretty high that most to all the similarities here are coincidental.

wareyin said:
b) these are not simply cases of people having moved from one state to another without having been purged from the previous state's voter registry, and
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It looked like this was addressed a bit in another one of the numbers quoted, so it looks like you should have read a bit more closely.

wareyin said:
c) that any of these people actually voted,
then they may have a case of fraud.
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The around 36,000 number was specifically for cases where people registered with the same names and birthdays voted in multiple states, so... reading a bit more closely would have helped, again. There's a separate and dramatically smaller category for people with the same names, birthdays, and matching last four digits of their social security number, either way.

Regardless, the author of the article was trying to stir up outrage by misrepresenting relevant things. It's an annoyingly common tactic, sadly.
 
I keep asking, If there is massive voter fraud, where is all the prosecutions from republican AGs? I never get an answer.
 
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