Merged Fred Phelps nearly dead/Is dead.

asydhouse said:
Completely different, sort of antonyms they are: the biblical use of "jealous" is that god is hoarding his followers, while "envy" is wanting what another has.
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That's it, kinda....
"Thou shalt have no gods before me"... doesn't say there aren't any other gods, just that this bojo has to be #1 amongst alla them!
 
halleyscomet said:
Why bother? Your comments about Fred Phelps in this very thread convey moral degeneracy and a "lawful evil" alignment far more succinctly. I see no point in providing further evidence of evil when you have already done so yourself.
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I'm not sure Janadele will get the alignment reference. D&D is satanic, remember.
 
Wolfman said:
And really, really bad music. They have this ongoing habit of taking popular songs, and rewriting them with lyrics that suit their cause, and then singing them either at protests, or sometimes even as hymns during their services. Following is an example of how they re-wrote "Royals" by Lorde (in anticipation of protesting one of her concerts). If you don't know the song, doesn't matter, the lyrics are fascinating in and of themselves:

We're coming to the end of all the flesh
We warned with pickets signs and songs and the movies
Shouldn't be proud you made this mess
You hear the trumpets sound, you'll feel God's envy

'Cause every song sings bare teeth ragin; sinning in the bedroom
bloodless coffin trashin your creator

You don't care
You're really badasses in your dreams
But in reality Christ will pay back, coming in the clouds
He'll set his thrown and mockers will be screechin' 'It ain't fair'
We'll be caught up with him in the air

We'll ever be royals, sanctified by his blood
[Indecipherable... something about "ascension," we think]
We crave a different kind of love
He has made us rulers
Sanctified to his sea
And joyful we'll rule with our King eternally

As red as blood, as black as coal
Dissolving peace you'll starve for wheat and for barley
Everyone who reads it knows what the pale horse is
You're gonna soon be sorry

CHORUS

He's greater than you ever dreamed
He's gonna make you mighty scream
Crispy 'cause you didn't care,
We'll be caught up with him in the air."
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This, except for the name sounds quite like a hymn to the Great Old Ones asking for Great Cthulhu to rise from sunken R'lyeh to devour all - though the faithful shall be eaten first!!!
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
They did a version of "Hey Jude" that really annoyed me. The "na na na na na-na na" bit at the end they changed to "hey evil reprobate Jews, God hates you, and you know it". The thing that annoys me (other than the obvious) is the last line. The last line in the actual song is two syllables - "hey Jude". "and you know it" is four syllables. Surely the obvious thing to sing is "hey Jews"?

I mean, come on. It's so easy to get right, and they failed.
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Way too many people think the message is more important than the scan on a poem or song. They are completely and irrevocably wrong.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
My first thought was, "Why? Is he illiterate?"

My second thought was, "Is compassion such a foreign concept to this person that it just 'does not compute'?"
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My suspicion is that he was dead to them after whatever happened to get them to excommunicate him. After that, he was just another heathen slab of meat waiting for a hand-basket to Hell. There are no losses fresh enough in their minds for the signs to make sense.

Fred Phelps is more mourned by his enemies and the children he threw out than the ones who remained faithful to his hate and teachings. He really did die alone.
 
halleyscomet said:
My suspicion is that he was dead to them after whatever happened to get them to excommunicate him. After that, he was just another heathen slab of meat waiting for a hand-basket to Hell. There are no losses fresh enough in their minds for the signs to make sense.

Fred Phelps is more mourned by his enemies and the children he threw out than the ones who remained faithful to his hate and teachings. He really did die alone.
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I mentioned earlier in the thread the way the people in the family talked about members that had left. This reaction does not surprise me.
 
fuelair said:
This, except for the name sounds quite like a hymn to the Great Old Ones asking for Great Cthulhu to rise from sunken R'lyeh to devour all - though the faithful shall be eaten first!!!
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Damn you, I was going to post a '"The god in that song is more like Cthulhu Then Jesus" comment..........
 
halleyscomet said:
My suspicion is that he was dead to them after whatever happened to get them to excommunicate him. After that, he was just another heathen slab of meat waiting for a hand-basket to Hell. There are no losses fresh enough in their minds for the signs to make sense.

Fred Phelps is more mourned by his enemies and the children he threw out than the ones who remained faithful to his hate and teachings. He really did die alone.
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From my perspective, spot on.
 
The more I learn about Steve Drain, the new head of the WBC, the more I think the cult is heading in a much more violent direction.

This Man Is The Future of Westboro Baptist Church

He has a long history of being am often violent control freak. He beat his kids, just like Phelps. Unlike Phelps he broke the nose of a teenage boy who had expressed interest in his daughter. His harassment of the kid and his family was so severe, the victim's mother filed a restraining order.

Shirley was his gateway into the cult, but it seems the recent power struggle and focus on biblical passages about the inferiority of women was all about cutting her off at the knees.

A lot of their extant practices, like the "God Hates..." signs, song parodies and antisemitism were driven by Drain.

He's also the man who commented that he didn't understand the "Sorry for your loss" signs. the man whose church he took over, the man he excommunicated, dies, and he sees no reason to care.
 
I'm pretty sure Arizona voters don't take kindly to politicians who praise a man known for mocking dead soldiers.

"Vice mayor of a small town in Arizona makes a pro-Fred Phelps post on Facebook. `We need more Fred Phelps in this world. May you rest in peace sir.''"

http://www.fark.com/go/8196118
 
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